I did not take it as a "personal beef". Was simply responding to the point that I do not think it is being critical to have the opinion.
Clutch Plays
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As Dan has said he’s playing free safety for better or worse. Those numbers for steals look great but stats don’t capture the moments like last night where he closes out with hands down. It doesn’t show when he makes the wrong read. I’ve said many times Kadary is disrupting plays before they happen so I don’t want to talk about the few negatives you can find in any player, but Whitehead was another level.
Those are a few guys playing as well as Kadary in the big east alone. I am not sure we can come up with that many playing as well as Whitehead across the country.
I am not missing the point. Apples to apples will never exist here. You are assuming how good he would be but all we know is what happened. There is no bigger IW fan than me. But we have IW's soph year when he was scintillating, and we have KR's sr year, when he is too. IMO it is obvious KR is at a similar level to what IW did at SHU. That is all anyone is saying.
" In fact if you compare Whitehead as a sophomore to Richmond as a sophomore, it isn't even close."
Two completely different players and very different teams. In what Richmond means to this team---now--- I don't see the huge gap.
Different teams, sure. The question posed was a comparison between the two players. I don't think it is uncontroversial to say KR the sophomore was not even in the same universe of a player as Whitehead was as a sophomore. Or, if you are going to project, that Whitehead would have absolutely killed college kids as a 22 year old, which is not a "leap", because most kids who leave early would have killed college competition. If one is comparing a 22-year old senior to a kid who left early, you have to look it from that lens because the kid who left early was good enough to do so and the kid who stayed wasn't.
Just so we are all clear on this comparison, IW turned 21 in March of his sophomore year so the age discrepancy is not like we are comparing a teenager to a 23 year old
Isaiah was tons better. But that is not part of this discussion as I see it. I see it as a comparison of Isaiah the SHU player and KR the SHU player. And KR deserves to be in the same breath as I see it.
I could say what if KR played with Angel and Khadeen and Desi and Ish, but all I am doing is making it up.
I think Whitehead was better by far. Others may say Kadary. At the end of the day just want Kadary to take us to the tournament this year.
Whiteheads numbers from when he turned it on vs St. John’s and the team closed out the BE schedule and BET strong were insane.
22.4 PPG
5.6 APG
4.6 RPG
1.9 BPG
1.4 SPG
47% from 3!!!! On more than 7 attempts per game.
Seton Halls record in that stretch: 12-2
Love what Kadary is doing. But the guy is shooting 16.7% from 3.
We can’t seriously be putting these efforts on the same level.
I would agree with Seton75 who did stated "Whitehead was tons better". He is simply saying that Kadary is filling the stat sheet like Whitehead did and from UConn till now the numbers are pretty similar
The issue for me is the 3 point shot is so important for so many reasons.
Isaiah was taking 7.3 attempts per game and Kadary is at 1.6 during that stretch. (2-8 - 25% not 30% from what I looked up)
Isaiah’s stretch was 14 games vs Kadary at 5.
He has been great but he is still shy of what Whitehead did.
I would make this statement, he has carried the Pirates over the past 5 games in a similar way that Whitehead was doing it that year.
Can that be the compromise on this one? 😉
One of the best things about the clutch plays, and I think one of the reasons for our success - the way Kooks and Al started their post game comments, by heaping praise on Wusu. PhD level chemistry
fwiw I didnt say IW was tons better, I said IW as a soph was tons better than KR as a soph fwiw.
I sincerely think that KR is comparable to the best we saw from Isaiah.
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If we're comparing the best of Isaiah I think Isaiah was clearly better. However if anyone remembers Isaiah around this time in January, he was getting benched with the rest of the starters as Creighton manhandled us at the Rock. If Kadary has a February like Isaiah had that year, who was better will be irrelevant because all that will matter is Seton Hall is gearing up for the NCAA's.
