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Cuba

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/12/17/fact-sheet-charting-new-course-cuba



Attached is the summary of what the President has authorized so far. The highlights

Establishing diplomatic relations. This need not be a partisan issue. It is in the best interest of both sides to have dialogue and the cost and risk is low.

Fewer travel restrictions. There has been no change to who can travel, only fewer hurdles for those that were previously allowed to travel.

Remittances by US persons to Cuban persons. The amount is increased from $500 to $2,000 per quarter. This puts money directly into the hands of the people that need it, sent by the people who have a direct interest. This is a good thing

Licensed U.S. travelers to Cuba will be authorized to import $400 worth of goods from Cuba, of which no more than $100 can consist of tobacco products and alcohol combined. In theory, this is a reduction of the embargo but the de minimis amounts will not have any real impact on the GNP of Cuba as a whole.

The one area I disagree with is in relation to Cuba being removed from the terror list. I am in no rush to have their designation changed. I think this discussion can easily be incorporated into the overall discussion of what to do with the embargo.

When the time comes, there can be a national discussion for what is the mechanism and requirement for reducing or removing the embargo. I don't have a plan myself, but in broad strokes, any easing of the restrictions goes hand in hand with social and economic reforms. Let's hope this is the start of something good.
 
blah, blah, blah.. Can I go to Havana yet drink rum and smoke Cubans? If not wake me when i can!
 
The only thing I care about Cuba is that they send us back Joanne Chesimard so she can spend the rest of her life in jail.
 
Originally posted by SHUMike:

The only thing I care about Cuba is that they send us back Joanne Chesimard so she can spend the rest of her life in jail.
Yes. I'm sure many here don't recall the history with Chesimard. Executed a State Trooper on the NJTPK about 40 years ago. I believe Christie has already sent a letter to Obama demanding her return.
 
Up until about two years ago, those massive illegal alien rallies used to feature many Cuban flags with the image of Che Guevara.

Finally, after many years they got some bad press. So most of those images have disappeared. But you know what's in their hearts and minds.
 
Just Googled this, can't believe this is the first time I've heard of her or this story. I'm surprised she is still alive, can't we find a way for her to fall ill or her break lines get cut?
 
Originally posted by jcalz88:
Just Googled this, can't believe this is the first time I've heard of her or this story. I'm surprised she is still alive, can't we find a way for her to fall ill or her break lines get cut?
enjoy your cigars
 
Originally posted by jcalz88:
Just Googled this, can't believe this is the first time I've heard of her or this story. I'm surprised she is still alive, can't we find a way for her to fall ill or her break lines get cut?
I know I'm going to sound like my parents, but don't they teach history in school anymore??? lol

Seriously though, I think the whole point of this thread is that there is a lot of history with Cuba and the Castro's that need to be analyzed and, understood and debated before changing our policy. You don't do this in a vacuum and dismiss it away by saying the current policy has failed, so we need to do something. We should be better than that.
 
On the night the trooper was killed in the shootout on the Turnpike, a frequent Piratecrew poster was sharing a substance now legal in Colorado with some SHU friends while driving around Milltown when we came upon a huge police presence that scared our paranoid little hearts. Sadly, they were looking not for some snotty nosed pot smokers, but for some real criminals.
 
I would a had a heart attack 75 haa. But for real, not one of my teachers ever mentioned this in all of my schooling.
 
Originally posted by Seton75:
On the night the trooper was killed in the shootout on the Turnpike, a frequent Piratecrew poster was sharing a substance now legal in Colorado with some SHU friends while driving around Milltown when we came upon a huge police presence that scared our paranoid little hearts. Sadly, they were looking not for some snotty nosed pot smokers, but for some real criminals.
75, your post stimulated my memory of another Piratecrew poster on this New Year's Eve that shows how the world may have been a little more innocent back in the day. On a New Year's Eve back in the early 70's, said poster and a few friends were sitting in a basement in Rutherford sharing that same substance when at 11pm decided that it would be a good idea to head to Times Square to watch the ball drop. A tight timeline made tighter, since they had the urge to get an order of egg rolls to go from a local Chinese restaurant on the way. With time wasting, at 11:50, the driver of the Ford Galaxy made the decision with urging of the six occupants to run the toll at the Lincoln Tunnel. The car was pulled over shortly after emerging from the tunnel and even though there were several emptied beer cans rolling around the floor, the Port Authority cops gave the driver a lecture, told the car load to be careful and don't do anything stupid. They never saw the ball drop, but it would have been anticlimactic anyway.

I shudder to think if that happened today. That same car would be surrounded by an Anti-Terrorist platoon, and someone would have captured it on their cell phone and it would be approaching about a billion hits on YouTube. Then the lawyers would have gotten involved (the Chinese restaurant sued..lol....cops gotten disciplined, protests, etc.). Thankfully, all of the car occupants survived and ended up being thankful that their parents never were the wiser....
 
How were the egg rolls? From the China Inn on Ames Ave no doubt .LOL Happy New Year.
 
Originally posted by bluerock:

How were the egg rolls? From the China Inn on Ames Ave no doubt .LOL Happy New Year.
LMAO...hot and greasy!! You nailed it
 
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