VP GAME THREAD, DING DING DING
i have a healthcare.gov plan with a 0 deductible. i get a tax credit on it, essentially pay half the plan. its better than having to shell for the full plan, which i will have to assume is the alternative option... since there is no plan.
SPK you are a business entrepreneur right?
Pennsylvania. there are high premium, low premium, high deductible, no deductible, ppos, hmos. they all have some sort of pro and con. all together im pretty annoyed by the hmo plan and the service of IBX but its better than paying for the whole plan privately.
Funny that most people tend to ignore that fact. The ACA has failed on many levels, primarily because politicians are too stupid and don’t have the fortitude to follow through.
How do you suppose you accomplish bringing the insurance and care down? Like someone else said in this thread, Obamacare is better than no plan which is what it was before and what Trump offers. Obamacare May not be perfect. But it’s something that can made better. It’s a good foundation to build on.
Why is the ACA better? It’s not like we had nothing before it was implemented (and it hasn’t even been fully implemented).
I am at a company that uses CIGNA, for all seasonal people that are hired which is a span of 24 to 32 weeks of full time employment, the CIGNA ACA plan is offered. It is terrible. It is better to pay out of pocket a little more per month through healthcare.gov....the issue here though is that Obamacare aimed to bring coverage to all...yes agree it has not been fully implemented...here is big issue as we start entering open enrollment in a few weeks, job market is slashed, wages are down, health coverage monthly premiums going up
Which is why opening up competition will open more options are lower costs to the consumer. Why should those employees be limited to two crappy choices?
Your expectations were too high...lol. It would be too easy to ask what their plan for the next four years would be on each issue. These debates are designed for entertainment and ratings. No one answers the questions and it doesn’t move the needle.
You really wanna use the term employee on them? It is more like time share mercenaries.
Why must the government have anything other than Medicare and Medicaid? Maybe expand govt care if ins cos drop u because of pre-existing conditions.
The core premise of the ACA changed in mid-stream. It was poorly conceived and poorly executed. A lot of smart people profited from it. But as some would say... “it wasn’t perfect “....no sh_t.
Big pharma likes to wine and dine doctors as incentive to push their products on the doctors' patients
I don’t follow that logic. Most people are going to opt in to a healthcare insurance plan to protect themselves from catastrophic bills. Why would the parents who are healthy with healthy kids not participate in a plan? You can opt out of your companies plan if you want to now.
i technically have preexisting conditions, nothing absurd. idk where the line is drawn but i dont remember being asked when signing up.
i think gen pop look to doctors as guidance. doctors dont really get involved with your diet kr sleep patterns. they want you taking pills. i know of a guy just like nyshore described in his example. there is a point where people rely on doctors. everyone is responsible for their health but there is a big responsibility on doctors too.
The core of the problem is if the government really cared about healthcare, 75% of the things we eat wouldn't be allowed on the shelves. Something that could sit on the shelf for 6 months and not perish is probably not something you want to put in your body. And if you do, common sense it's going to do more harm than good.
10x like. the amount of preservatives and processed foods out there is whats contributing to all our health problems.
easier said than done. your insurance only allows you to go to a subset of doctors. sometimes you need a referral if its a specialist. if you have a pressing need you cant exactly just switch doctors. maybe you do need that medicine or that surgery. who wants to go another 2-3 months not addressing their problem? picking a good doctor is a total crapshoot esp if you have no reccos from friends or family. online ratings are turning into yelp. everyone gets a gold star.
