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Depth Problems

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I know we’ve talked about all year long but it really will become an issue down the road. We go 7 deep that’s it! We can’t expect to go far in the BE tourney or the NCAA tourney (hopefully) on back to back nights or short rest with 7.
 
Tournament play is a different animal.

Not enough depth but play a physical style, and not enough shooting to win easily. Yet here we are 15-8, 8-4.

This is a team that has to grind out. We’ll see. I think the lack of shooting and constantly outscored by wide margins from 3 gets us before the depth does.
 
Depth is an issue because we seem pretty banged up. Richmond went down hard to start the game. EHE limped off at the end. Any more things like that guys without names on their jerseys start playing.
 
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If we could add a piece to this team I think it would be a guard who can shoot and handle the ball over a PF. We are scary in some of these endgames (tonight, Marquette, at Providence, etc.)

I was hoping maybe Sanders could’ve taken a step forward there but nope.
 
I know we’ve talked about all year long but it really will become an issue down the road. We go 7 deep that’s it! We can’t expect to go far in the BE tourney or the NCAA tourney (hopefully) on back to back nights or short rest with 7.
We are not a deep team, but 8-4 in 3rd place.

We'll be lucky to win two games in the BET, but hopefully won’t need them and rest up for postseason.
 
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If we could add a piece to this team I think it would be a guard who can shoot and handle the ball over a PF. We are scary in some of these endgames (tonight, Marquette, at Providence, etc.)

I was hoping maybe Sanders could’ve taken a step forward there but nope.
in addition to coleman?
 
We are not a deep team, but 8-4 in 3rd place.

We'll be lucky to win two games in the BET, but hopefully won’t need them and rest up for postseason.
This stretch coming up is big. Not sure where we stand because of the stupid NET. Obviously tonight proved nothing will be easy. Nova, Creighton, SJU and UConn on the road. X and Butler are coming in to our building playing well lately. It’s not going to be pretty but hoping for 3-3 in that stretch minimum.
 
This stretch coming up is big. Not sure where we stand because of the stupid NET. Obviously tonight proved nothing will be easy. Nova, Creighton, SJU and UConn on the road. X and Butler are coming in to our building playing well lately. It’s not going to be pretty but hoping for 3-3 in that stretch minimum.
Need to get 12 wins in conference…somehow someway
 
Sha has to choose one of Brown, Tubek, and Sanders to play a maximum of 5 minutes during these games. It seems to me Sanders is his answer, although he does not pass the eye test. I really wish Tubek was up to speed because I think he could have an impact, but he he's just too far behind at this juncture.
 
ISaiah needa the most minutes off.the bench. Surprised he went w jaquan late over isaiah. Idk if they were just minutes to try to get him going
 
Sha has to choose one of Brown, Tubek, and Sanders to play a maximum of 5 minutes during these games. It seems to me Sanders is his answer, although he does not pass the eye test. I really wish Tubek was up to speed because I think he could have an impact, but he he's just too far behind at this juncture.
I was expecting more from Sanders given early reports but that hasn’t happened.
I was expecting more from Tubek, but injuries hit.
I was hoping NgaNga would be able to spot up some minutes, but he has not picked up the game.

Anything else would have been a complete surprise.
 
Sha has to choose one of Brown, Tubek, and Sanders to play a maximum of 5 minutes during these games. It seems to me Sanders is his answer, although he does not pass the eye test. I really wish Tubek was up to speed because I think he could have an impact, but he he's just too far behind at this juncture.
Brown and Tubek always have medical issues.
ISaiah needa the most minutes off.the bench. Surprised he went w jaquan late over isaiah. Idk if they were just minutes to try to get him going
In Sha’s postgame he pointed to getting Sanders more minutes. I don’t think Sanders does anything to demonstrate he can be a reliable BE player but we don’t have options.

When Wusu is bad, he’s real bad. Like last night. Then he forces and acts like a bull. That’s when Coleman should get the minutes.
 
Loved Wusu’s steal though after Kadary got the ball stolen from him. He waited at half court and was like, you stole the ball from my friend and now I’m taking it back. Then gave the ball to Kadary for the dunk. Was beautiful defense as if Wusu knew exactly what the Georgetown player was going to do with the ball.
 
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Loved Wusu’s steal though after Kadary got the ball stolen from him. He waited at half court and was like, you stole the ball from my friend and now I’m taking it back. Then gave the ball to Kadary for the dunk. Was beautiful defense as if Wusu knew exactly what the Georgetown player was going to do with the ball.
Wusu is an interesting player. You just don’t know what’s coming game in and game out but he plays hard. He does so many things from defense to rebounding but not always consistently and he’s by nature one of those players who pushes so much it can lead to sloppiness. He’s probably best suited as a 6th man versus playing 33 MPG.

He’s been struggling for a long time offensively. % way down from last year. This team really needs that to pick up.
 
Loved Wusu’s steal though after Kadary got the ball stolen from him. He waited at half court and was like, you stole the ball from my friend and now I’m taking it back. Then gave the ball to Kadary for the dunk. Was beautiful defense as if Wusu knew exactly what the Georgetown player was going to do with the ball.
That was a huge 4 point swing because I believe Gtown had a 3 on 1 and a player all alone on the left side for an easy layup if he just gave up the ball sooner. Think of the times Georgetown cut it to 3, that 4 point swing would've made Georgetown plus 1.
 
Isn’t this the same story with this team after each game.

If you’re getting a good Dawes and DAW game at the same time we look like a top 3 team in the conference.

If one has an off night you feel like the result could go either way vs the middle of the pack.

If they both have a bad game…well it resembles what we saw in the OOC and we start calling our depth into question and say they are better suited off the bench.

I wouldn’t call last night a double bad game. But both play on the below average side of things, combined with a poor game from Bediako, hence we struggled to pull away from Georgetown.
 
Isn’t this the same story with this team after each game.

If you’re getting a good Dawes and DAW game at the same time we look like a top 3 team in the conference.

If one has an off night you feel like the result could go either way vs the middle of the pack.

If they both have a bad game…well it resembles what we saw in the OOC and we start calling our depth into question and say they are better suited off the bench.

I wouldn’t call last night a double bad game. But both play on the below average side of things, combined with a poor game from Bediako, hence we struggled to pull away from Georgetown.
The issue wasn't 2 specific players. The issue was the perimeter defense. Play perimeter defense like that and we can go 1-5 in the next 6. I would love to say SHU caused Georgetown to shoot 10-40 from 3, but our rotations and close outs were bad and they still missed. They missed because they were too wide open(that's facetious don't write a 6 page response to it) or just poor shot selection with 20 on the shot clock
 
The issue wasn't 2 specific players. The issue was the perimeter defense. Play perimeter defense like that and we can go 1-5 in the next 6. I would love to say SHU caused Georgetown to shoot 10-40 from 3, but our rotations and close outs were bad and they still missed. They missed because they were too wide open(that's facetious don't write a 6 page response to it) or just poor shot selection with 20 on the shot clock
You do realize that of Dylan’s 3-11 effort he missed 4-5 point blank layups at the rim.

Also prior to Dawes hitting a big 3 late, was 3-10 with 3 turnovers and dribbling off his foot again out of control.

And the comment from Sha in the huddle about dribbling the ball for 12 seconds without going anywhere was directed at Bediako, Kadary, and Davis???
 
Speaking of end game issues, Dylan went to the hoop for a contested layup with about a 1:30 left (I could have that timing wrong) when he should have pulled the ball out. Got stuffed which lead to a runout and score by GTown. I hope the coaches let him have it on that one. Then on the next series Sanders made the smart play and could have gone inside for a potential layup but pulled the ball out and got fouled. That was the smart play. I think Sha had him in to get another ball handler and he's a better foul shooter than Wusu and Coleman which was a smart substitution and one I hadn't seen Sha make in earlier games. Unfortunately Sanders bricks the first FT. We have been saying it but we need more from him. He was wide open for a three down the stretch and airballed it. Wasn't ever close and missed by a lot and he's supposedly our best shooter in practice. Depth - we just don't have any on this team.
 
You do realize that of Dylan’s 3-11 effort he missed 4-5 point blank layups at the rim.
You want the best of both worlds in the what if scenario. It works both ways. if DAW makes all his misses we win by 15, but never want to go the direction if Georgetown makes 7 or 8 of the wide open 3's we lose. Fair.

Also prior to Dawes hitting a big 3 late, was 3-10 with 3 turnovers and dribbling off his foot again out of control.
Richmond didn't command the ball when he was in there. And Dawes dribbling out of control is because of the roster. You want to criticize the coach of MD for his roster, but don't blame ours that we are left to Dawes to be dribbling the ball. And I'll bet if you were the coach of Georgetown you'd say let's dare Dawes beat us off the dribble, that's not his game. He is put in a role he's not built for any time KR is on the bench, why? because of the roster.

And the comment from Sha in the huddle about dribbling the ball for 12 seconds without going anywhere was directed at Bediako, Kadary, and Davis???

Security kept me out of the huddle. Next time I'll offer them a beer. A couple more yards closer and I would've been able to hear. But now I'm curious what the comment was and when it happened. Without knowing sounds like a roster issue because I'd bet KR wasn't on the floor and guys not in a role they are comfortable with and Cooley making those guys uncomfortable make a play.
 
Speaking of end game issues, Dylan went to the hoop for a contested layup with about a 1:30 left (I could have that timing wrong) when he should have pulled the ball out. Got stuffed which lead to a runout and score by GTown. I hope the coaches let him have it on that one. Then on the next series Sanders made the smart play and could have gone inside for a potential layup but pulled the ball out and got fouled. That was the smart play. I think Sha had him in to get another ball handler and he's a better foul shooter than Wusu and Coleman which was a smart substitution and one I hadn't seen Sha make in earlier games. Unfortunately Sanders bricks the first FT. We have been saying it but we need more from him. He was wide open for a three down the stretch and airballed it. Wasn't ever close and missed by a lot and he's supposedly our best shooter in practice. Depth - we just don't have any on this team.
Nobody coming back to help Kadary when he was bottled up in the backcourt was big too. Didn't hurt because they called a Georgetown foul, but it was a turnover waiting to happen.
 
You do realize that of Dylan’s 3-11 effort he missed 4-5 point blank layups at the rim.

Also prior to Dawes hitting a big 3 late, was 3-10 with 3 turnovers and dribbling off his foot again out of control.

And the comment from Sha in the huddle about dribbling the ball for 12 seconds without going anywhere was directed at Bediako, Kadary, and Davis???
Wusu’s inability to convert high percentage looks is hurting more than the 3PT. As a result his 2PT% is by far the worst of his career by a pretty wild amount.

We could use a stat correction.

.366
.478
.464
.563

It’s .312 in BE games! 👀👀👀
 
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You want the best of both worlds in the what if scenario. It works both ways. if DAW makes all his misses we win by 15, but never want to go the direction if Georgetown makes 7 or 8 of the wide open 3's we lose. Fair.


Richmond didn't command the ball when he was in there. And Dawes dribbling out of control is because of the roster. You want to criticize the coach of MD for his roster, but don't blame ours that we are left to Dawes to be dribbling the ball. And I'll bet if you were the coach of Georgetown you'd say let's dare Dawes beat us off the dribble, that's not his game. He is put in a role he's not built for any time KR is on the bench, why? because of the roster.



Security kept me out of the huddle. Next time I'll offer them a beer. A couple more yards closer and I would've been able to hear. But now I'm curious what the comment was and when it happened. Without knowing sounds like a roster issue because I'd bet KR wasn't on the floor and guys not in a role they are comfortable with and Cooley making those guys uncomfortable make a play.
I’m not sure how to respond to these comments anymore.

1. Yes if DAW and Dawes had better games they easily pull away and win by 15+. Our metrics needed that. But I’ll take the win all day. I was merely pointing out as those two go, we tend to go as a team. NOT SURE WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS.

2. Kadary didn’t command the ball and no one is really talking about that. He went for 20-7-8 and something still felt off. He is missing his explosiveness that he had prior to the fall at St. John’s. In regards, to Sha having no depth at point guard, I’ll be the first to say that was a huge miss in the offseason. Rumors were KR didn’t want someone infringing on his time. Sha still needed to address that and if the NIL $$ was available I would have absolutely added Posh to this roster for more guard depth.

3. “Security didn’t let you in the huddle” UHH…this was the Fox Broadcast in the Huddle segment, no one made this up. Dawes was sitting directly facing Sha and his eyes barely rotated around the huddle while pretty much looking at Al.
NOT SURE WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS.
 
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One sided what ifs. Everyone except Depaul is undefeated on one sided what ifs. And then to do it on only 2 guys. You can't do what ifs on Richmond and Bediako staying on the court? You can't do what if we actually made Cook look like Cook and not Mourning. What if we did a better job guarding them? The guys who were left to pick up most of the slack last night by playing 35 and 38 minutes, they're the top 2 culprits as to why we didn't win by 15. The fact Georgetown had 75 shots and we had 58 had nothing to do with it. Even with a +16 free throw number that's not good. But DAW and Dawes, the 2 guys to take issue with why we didn't win by big numbers.
 
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