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Do you dump him

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,,,,,,,,,,,,despite owing Papelbon one more year at a substantial amount?



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http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...-papelbon-scuffle-washington-nationals-dugout

National embarrassment: Bryce Harper, Jonathan Papelbon scuffle

A Washington Nationals season that began with World Series aspirations reached a new low Sunday afternoon, as Bryce Harper and Jonathan Papelbon got into a physical altercation in the team dugout.

After Harper flied out in the eighth inning Sunday, he and Papelbon exchanged words when the NL MVP front-runner got back to the dugout.

Papelbon then reached for Harper's throat with his left hand and shoved the outfielder back toward the bench with both arms. Teammates then pulled the pair apart.

"He apologized, so whatever. I really don't care. ... It's like brothers fighting. That's what happens."

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Bryce Harper, on his dugout scuffle with teammate Jonathan Papelbon

Papelbon entered the game against his old team, the Philadelphia Phillies, in the top of the eighth inning.

In the ninth, Papelbon gave up Andres Blanco's two-run, go-ahead homer as the Phillies scored eight times en route to a 12-5 win.

Papelbon (4-3) then loaded the bases, hitting Odubel Herrera with his final pitch, before being removed by manager Matt Williams -- and leaving the mound to a chorus of boos from the Nationals Park crowd.

Harper did not go out to his position in right field for the ninth and was replaced in the lineup.

After the game, a much more subdued Papelbon said he and Harper had talked things out.

"It's squashed and it's good, we've moved on," Papelbon said.

"I grew up with brothers, he grew up with brothers, I view him as a brother," Papelbon said. "And sometimes in this game, there's a lot of testosterone and things spill over."

"He apologized, so whatever," Harper said. "I really don't care. ... It's like brothers fighting. That's what happens."

Williams described it as a "family issue" within the Nats, but conceded it wasn't a great moment for the players or the organization.

"It's no fun when stuff like this happens, but it does happen, and you must deal with it, and that is what we do," Williams said.

When asked if he'd ever fought a teammate before, Harper quipped, "I'm used to fighting the other team."

It has been a tumultuous week for Papelbon. On Wednesday he plunked Baltimore star Manny Machado and was given a three-game suspension by Major League Baseball. Papelbon appealed, allowing him to continue playing. Following that game, Harper said he expected to be plunked by the Orioles in retaliation, though that never came to be.

Washington was eliminated from postseason contention Saturday and has lost five of its past six games.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
 
Not my money (and I would never have made the trade in the first place anyway) but we at SHU should know as well as anyone what a bad locker room can do to a team.

This guy is poison. I would never want him as my teammate in any situation. Worries about himself first and foremost and will bail on you at the first sign of a problem.
 
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Not my money (and I would never have made the trade in the first place anyway) but we at SHU should know as well as anyone what a bad locker room can do to a team.

This guy is poison. I would never want him as my teammate in any situation. Worries about himself first and foremost and will bail on you at the first sign of a problem.
Dump him like month old trash.
 
Anyone against Harper is going to lose. And I agree on never taking the guy in the first place, and it has been a while since the Nats were discussed and the words "first place" were used...
 
Yes. Can't believe they took him off our hands to begin with. Not sure what Rizzo was thinking, other than assuming a playoff berth at the time and not trusting Storen in big spots.

I will say that Papelbon has produced throughout the ridiculous contract RAJ gave him, so I give him a little more leeway with his comments than most probably do. But whenever he made comments when he was with Philadelphia about expecting to contend, he was either lying or just being an idiot. It was clear where that team was headed when he signed.
 
He knew what he was doing signing with Philly. He took the money and with the first chance he could he made enough trouble to leave for a contender. At least a contender in his mind.

Now that isn't working out and he's making waves again.

No doubt some idiot GM will take him feeling things will be different when he comes to his town.
 
Harper plays hard for his team and his future. Papelbon strikes me as being on the me, myself and I team.
 
It's players like Papelbon and incidents like this that show how important having a good locker room is and having all the players on the same page. At the same time one of the absolute elements for a manager or coach to be successful is for him to control his own locker room and get everyone both coaches and players on the same page.
 
Dump the manager for putting the mron in the game in the 8th to begin with. Fitting he gave up all hose runs to lose the game. What did he expect? That manager ain't no genius!
 
Dump the manager for putting the mron in the game in the 8th to begin with. Fitting he gave up all hose runs to lose the game. What did he expect? That manager ain't no genius!
He's been terrible, and should have been fired a month ago, if not last year. He claimed he used Pap because he didn't know the severity of the incident because he was on the other side of the dugout? What?
 
When the Nationals acquired Papelbon, I felt much better about the Mets' chances of winning the NL East. Papelbon is a locker room cancer.
 
The public may be blaming Jonathan Papelbon for Sunday’s embarrassing fracas with likely National League MVP Bryce Harper, but players are on the other side, according to Fox Sports columnist and former major league reliever C.J. Nitkowski.

In the eighth inning of Sunday’s loss to the Phillies, Harper failed to run hard to first base on a fly ball to left field. Papelbon chided him for his actions, Harper went back at him, and a fight ensued in the dugout.

Nitkowski polled 12 current and former players on the dust-up, and said not one took Harper’s side. Among the responses Nitkowski got:

http://nypost.com/2015/09/28/baseball-brethren-bryce-harper-had-choke-coming/
 
In my mind that hold no bearing at all. You have this kind of problem you settle it behind closed doors in your locker room. You don't try and choke out a player in the dugout.

If this was a first time issue with Papelbon you might chalk it up to immaturity (although he's 34 years old), but it's not.

He's been a cancer everywhere he has gone, and what he's doing now in his brief stay in DC is par for the course.
 
The video clearly shows that Papelbon started barking at and deriding Harper as he returned to the dugout. While Harper may have dogged the play, it isn't very professional to verbally attack a teammate, especially when you are sort of new to a team and have recently embarrassed it. The show stopper was Papelbon attacking Harper's neck to choke him. Papelbon should be suspended from the team for the remainder of the season.
 
This I'm sure was as much about Harper's comments about Papelbon bean balling a player last week and calling him out as anything else.

Is Harper a jerk? From most accounts yes, he does rub people the wrong way. But that doesn't give license to someone to attack another person. Especially a teammate in your own dugout.
 
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No i think he thought the Phillies would be contenders when he signed. The guy who signed him thought the same thing for 2 years after.
 
Papelbon is a me first guy. After his comments about wanting out of philly forced the Phillies to trade him, he's the last person who should be telling teammates how to play the game. The Nationals would be crazy to allow that cancer on their team next year.
 
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