Pathetic news attention heading to weekend
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The guy was asking for it.Getting arrested in Newark is a vote getter.It's all an act.
He’s running for governor. What better way to get publicity for his cause. Another hack from the swamp.
Apparently trespassing and rioting gets your family a $30 million check if you’re Team Trump.
Baraka is a loser and NYShore is as partisan as they come but we must have missed your objection to the federal government actually paying the family of Babbitt. You ok with that?
good thing the democrats stood strong and fought the rioters in Minneapolis, Seattle and Portland. Oh wait no they raised money to bail them out of jail. Both sides play the same game.
Babbit family had sued for wrongful death.... which sounds like a legitimate lawsuit. She is the only one who died as a direct result of that day. Biden admin successfully covered her death up pretty quick. Where was the call for government transparency then???? Govt. now settles suit with family. What is wrong with that?
For those here that wish to cast absolute blame on Biden for Afghanistan withdrawal and the lost active service members the same distinction needs to be cast on trump for all death injury and trauma that occurred on 1.6.21
New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege
Babbitt, 35, was among several supporters of the president who overpowered police and breached the US Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election in favor o…
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So the penalty for trespassing is to be shot and killed?New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege
Babbitt, 35, was among several supporters of the president who overpowered police and breached the US Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election in favor o…
Ashley Babbit
Seems like Baraka is getting off easy.
The penalty includes fine print where if you support Trump you can be shot and killed for trespassing. If you’re anti Trump we need your vote so you can’t be killed. It’s very well written by America’s best and brightest
Blah blah blah. Amazing how you weren’t so supportive of the Seattle police months earlier. Keep supporting politicians against walls until they need a barrier to protect themselves.
Mind boggling that anyone could watch that video and believe that he was wrong to shoot her.
You know what happens when you break into a. Government building, and then break through the window of a barricaded door with and gun pointed at you by a cop whose job is to protect the people behind that door? You get shot.
None of us know what would have happened if she got through. Would she have been violent? Maybe, would the 2nd person that went through? The 3rd, 4th, etc… we have no idea because the cop DID HIS JOB which was to protect the people behind that door.
That should not be a partisan take. If a person anywhere is breaking through a window in a building that they broke into with a gun pointed at them by a cop, they are going to get shot and it will be justified.
Using your logic, you would have each of the 10 - 20 million illegal aliens shot. They broke into the country.... who knows what they have in mind and how many innocent people and migrants have suffered for it.
The fact that the matter of Babbit's death was kept in such secrecy is part of the problem. But you are so used to having news censored you have come to accept it.
Border agents are authorized to use lethal force if there is an imminent threat. There have been many such cases resulting in the immigrants death…. So yes, those agents would be justified when there is a threat. Just like the officer with Babbitt.
What don’t you know? It’s all on video. There was like 2 months when we didn’t know the officers name.
We’ve all seen the video. What did Babbitt do that the others in the building didn’t? Was she the only one who caused imminent threat? Or should they all have been shot? Did she cause anymore threat than the people in Seattle and Minneapolis? Or would it have been ok to shoot all of them? Maybe everyone should’ve just fired away for those 8 months straight.
So there was this door which was barricaded, with a police officer standing behind it with his gun drawn warning them not to proceed.
1 person tried to clime through the broken window of a barricaded door.
That’s what she did differently than everyone else. That is why she got shot.
If the risk is that property is damaged, that is far different than if you’re the cop behind a barricaded door and your job is to protect the lives of the people behind the door though.
There are 1,000 people killed by cops each year. Are you looking into all of those to make sure they were all justified?
As with many of the cases we have discussed here, I tend to give cops the benefit of the doubt on when they feel it is necessary to shoot someone. Someone else is putting their life in danger, they don’t necessarily have time to play out all of the scenarios.
If a cop has a gun drawn on me and gives me warnings to stop, I’m going to stop. If I decide to keep going and he shouts me, that’s on me, not them.
I don’t see a difference between climbing through a window and guys trying to break down doors. Everyone was trying to get through. I give cops the same benefit. But I don’t see her attempt as different than the other attempts. Everyone was attempting to get through in various ways. What happens if the others broke through? The flood gates would have opened and been more severe. I’ll bet We are not going to agree on this
just $hitty people constantly trying to put a $hitty spin on everything.
yes lets compare baraka to this lady who is breaking through barricaded area as part of a mob threatening the politicians inside the government capitol in which police officers ended up dying.
they're all pro gun (and have $hitty spins on the school shootings) what do you think they'd say if she was breaking into the property of a residence?
righhhht. but baraka!!
she was the first one through. case closed. what a moronic point.
The police officers behind the doors of the capitol were there to protect the building. Michael Byrd was on the room as the last line of defense for members of congress to protect their lives.
EXACTLY!
What if she was the one that cause the disruption enough for others to get in? What if there were worse people behind her who wanted to attack members of congress? Byrd absolutely had to try and prevent that from happening. He pleaded with Babbitt to stop. She didn’t listen so she got shot.
Would you tell your kids not to comply with a police officer if they have a gun drawn on them? You know a possible outcome is death if they charge an officer and that officer has to make a split decision.
Do you have other examples of where an officer had their gun drawn on someone and was pleading for them to stop and when they didn’t stop, the cop shot them and you weren’t on the side of the cop? We’d probably agree if politics weren’t involved.
You got my view all wrong. They could’ve shot all of them and I would be fine. Any of them can have caused the disruption. Should’ve shot them all based on that, not just her. I don’t see how someone climbing through a window gets shot but guys breaking down the door don’t. Why weren’t guns drawn on the guys breaking down the doors telling them to stop? You telling me if that was your house you wouldn’t want a gun drawn on the guys breaking down the door but the lady climbing through the window yes shoot her. Were the guys breaking down the doors complying with the officers. 8 months of shooting people for causing harm wouldn’t have been a bad thing. No liberal wants to admit that. Why weren’t people shot before they entered the Capitol? That piece of glass was different than getting in the building? What a bunch of bull. You talk like they were protecting the building, but the previous comment you made it sound like damaged property was no big deal.
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First one through in these things gets shot nobody else? Nobody gets shot for breaking into the building itself? Who makes up these moronic rules?
Again… getting through the doors of the building gets people into the building. Getting through that glass door gets people into where the members of congress are.
They didn’t want to kill people just for breaking into a building.
Not sure why you can’t see that. It’s like a guy breaking through my fence and then through the front door of my house and I shoot at him after he breaks the door and your arguing why I didn’t shoot him after he broke the fence. Could I have been justified after the fence? Sure. My discretion in not is only debatable after he breaks through the front door?
Police shoot when they feel there is an imminent threat to life. Not to buildings.
You're wrong. Those glass doors to get to the members of Congress are smashed all over the place. Babbitt didn't do that by herself. There were MANY people trying to force their way in using various objects to break those glass doors where the members of Congress were. At any point one of them could've hit jackpot and the people could've flooded in. Why only one person shot? You think she's any different than those others trying to smash in? I don't.
That comparison is stupid, I'm asking why you didn't shoot the 10 people trying to break down your door and your answer is it's ok if they get in my house, I'll shoot them if they break into my bedroom door because that's where the people are.
Look at the glass yourself. You think Babbitt did that by herself? Heck I'd say there's 20 characters more dangerous than babbitt with various objects in their possession that could cause way more harm than Babbitt could have.
Videos show fatal police shooting of woman during Capitol riot
Ashli Babbitt was fatally shot as President Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday. The officer who fired his gun is now on administrative leave.
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You're wrong. Those glass doors to get to the members of Congress are smashed all over the place. Babbitt didn't do that by herself. There were MANY people trying to force their way in using various objects to break those glass doors where the members of Congress were. At any point one of them could've hit jackpot and the people could've flooded in. Why only one person shot? You think she's any different than those others trying to smash in? I don't.
That comparison is stupid, I'm asking why you didn't shoot the 10 people trying to break down your door and only shot the person who found a hole to get in.
Look at the glass yourself. You think Babbitt did that by herself? Heck I'd say there's 20 characters more dangerous than babbitt with various objects in their possession that could cause way more harm than Babbitt could have.
Videos show fatal police shooting of woman during Capitol riot
Ashli Babbitt was fatally shot as President Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday. The officer who fired his gun is now on administrative leave.
Many people smashed. 1 person tried to get through. That 1 person got shot.
Trying to actually enter that room was the line for the cop.
Lol they were smashing to not get through. Of course they were smashing with objects to get through. I can’t believe you can frame it that only one person tried to get through. They just wanted to break it down and walk away lol.
If they did break it down, do you think they would have shot all 5000 people or so that went through.
Like you, SPK is a CPA. He understands the concept of materiality. He chooses to ignore it. Years ago he was a person who's opinion was worth considering, but no longer. Now, he is just an angry old man, shaking his fist at the sky.
As for SHUHoopsFan, the King of the Whatabouts has no understanding of materiality. He just wants to go full Tommy Tuberville. If he was the police officer, he'd take off his belt and threaten Ashli Babbitt. It's what his father would have done to him. The threat of the belt excites him.
Materiality. One woman busting through a broken window or guys breaking down the doors so thousands could get through. You think materiality is greater with one woman busting through?
Why didn’t the group who was breaking down the door (that Babbitt was clinging though) get in to that room? Why did they stop there?
Maybe because the officer had a line that was crossed and acted and effectively stopped the mob?
We finally agree on something shooting people does work. But Babbitt was the weakest link out of all of them. In the grand scheme of things They shot a shoplifter and let the armed robbers off easy. Thats my complaint. Now think what could’ve been stopped in Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle if the same logic was applied.
