Game Thread: Seton Hall vs. Rutgers
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Good job by the coach and staff having the team play their hearts out. Did not expect that result. Having said that the last part of game wasn't handled well. The offense has zero structure. Watching some of those offensive sets was difficult. Bull rushing is ridiculous. Thankfully, Coleman stepped up. A for effort today for sure.
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All this talk about defense and we leave a future #1 pick open. Cmon sha
An average Rutgers team with two one and done freshman beat our historically bad team on a buzzer beater 3. Oh well. I can’t even care enough to be annoyed at this point.
And Sha had time and means to keep ball out of Harpers hands -- just poor Coaching -never let the other Team's best Player beat You--
There are no moral victories. Not today. The opportunity of the year slipped out of their hands.
Credit to Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey. Harper especially. He is as good as anyone in the country.
Credit to Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey. Harper especially. He is as good as anyone in the country.
main that was atrocious defense by dual on the last play. my god.
I don't have a problem with putting Dual on Harper. Dual is good enough of a defender and long enough to give Harper resistance. The Coach is supposed to put the players in a position to win, and at some point, it is up to the players to execute and Dual did not.
Whatever we paid Dual for NIL was too much. You cannot make that mistake.
Look, if Harper had driven to the basket and made if tough layup or got fouled or even made a tough jumper, hats off to him. But leaving him all alone to get a pass, set his feet, look up, take his time and drain a three was unforgivable.
Carry. If cats that actually think they know ball n coach 3rd grade cyo think different then so u lost
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We lost this game at the line. Although we might have only been in the game because our free throw defense was amazing. Bottom line is if you’re in a tight game and shooting under 50% from the line, don’t blame any one single play over that.
Concentrating on future seasons isn't a thing in college basketball anymore. Too many variables and too much offseason movement
So, I am critical of Dual on the last play, but you cannot pin the loss entirely on him. He was kept out for too long by Sha as was Middleton. Unfair over the top criticism of Dual is not warranted. They lost for many reasons. They all deserve blame. Coleman left his man when the Hall when up by one around 3 minutes. Wusu, bull rushing? Sha wants guys to play positions they should not be playing.
You need to fein a trap on harper there make him pick up dribble .
Good teams execute and win the close games bad teams do not and we’re not a good team.
The Book probably won’t have SH as a favorite for the rest of the season.
You don’t think allowing g him to jog up the court and take an uncontested three was a good idea.
I can’t believe that was our defense at the end we gave him such an easy shot
Better question: Will SH win more than 2 BE games this season. I think The Book would have SH as a gadzillion to 1 on the Over.
imo that is nuts. we showed progress. two top ten draft choices had great games and we lost at the buzzer
Agree with this. Worth mentioning incredible poise by Coleman and knock down 4 straight FT’s right in front of the student section. Him Chaunce seem to be the only guys built for pressure on this team.
Zero moral victories. This was the most frustrating game of the season to watch. They gifted us 20+ points, at least.
Harper and Bailey are superlative talents and were easily the 2 best players on the floor.
That said, they are teenagers. They have a "pro" or "NBA" offensive game right now, but so much of it comes off them individually beating their defender. If Rutgers had a supporting case those two would be lethal, especially Harper, as they learn to make others better in a college offensive scheme. Right now, they take all kinds of difficult shots (and granted they can make some), but it is also easier to "scheme" them out of a game, kind of like what we did to Ace in the second half. You trap off the PNR or help when they are in isolation, and it forces them to make a tough contested play because RU doesn't have the ammunition around them and they aren't able (yet) to elevate those around them.
And I don't know what the hell Dual was doing on that last play.
Some of the kids played hard, but I'm not giving bonus points to that given they are paid to do so and given this is probably the most "charged" atmosphere the kids are going to play in all year.
All in all, this was so god damn frustrating to watch as a fan. At least we covered.
Agreed to an extent—- no idea what Dual was doing there.
But no pressure on the inbounder no extra pressure on Harper.
Those are shas decisions that didn’t work out
Agree with you that I still much preferred playing them close to getting our doors blown off. Even if the ending hurt more that way.
I'm not sure how much progress was made. The two kids are great talents, but unless that supporting cast progresses, that isn't a very good team or even a good team right now. It's why their record is what it is. They were giving this game to us for so long with all the missed FTs, TOs, disjointed play and lack of presence in the paint.
yeah. jerry west and kobe and MJ never made a game winner.
Annoying to lose but looking at the ridiculous free throw discrepancy and them having 2 $1M+ players, if you told me we'd go into the last possession tied in that scenario I wouldn't have believed you.
Rivalry game. Team that is relying so heavily on 2 kids playing their 10th games of high major college basketball. Questionable supporting case. I wasn't shocked it was close and bet us to cover for a lesser margin than the points we were getting at tip.
Marshall even said on the broadcast that you can't leave Harper alone even when he doesn't have the ball. And Brando pointed out how DSW fell asleep on an inbound play
I would have been shocked if there wasn't a big FT discrepancy in this game. Rutgers is home. We are what we are offensively. And Harper and Bailey are going to draw fouls against a team like us so long as they attack the paint. They had 15 attempts between them and frankly I thought RU played right into our hands in the first half with Harper not attacking the paint. Pike clearly told him to start doing that after the break based on how he played in the second half. It's probably going to be a running theme all season with them because both Ace and him already have some of the NBA elements to their game with the step backs and contested jumpers, but they are talented enough where they can make some and it will be a major part of their game at the next level, so I don't see it stopping.
I’m not one to use officiating as an excuse but the lions share of 50-50 calls went Rutgers’ way.
I honestly expected em to kill us so I am proud in that aspect, I just hope they wont lose hope now
I think it was definitely a step in the right direction.
I thought we would get blown out- I’m hopeful that Coleman will actually develop into that guy.
But jeez wusu handling the point guard duties is a disaster
Funny cause I just reviewed that I went from being relieved in the First Half to being pissed off at Game's end.
