State sponsor of terrorism who has made direct threats against the U.S., the great satan:
Iran
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This isn’t just directed to the name caller. Who could fully support negotiations or bombing? Nobody here has all of the important facts. Support our country: should be easy. It’s not. It’s actually being debated!
This should not be partisan but its most about Trump. Our last president did what in response to Oct 7?
I’m not sure what Oct 7 has anything to do with Iran. What action did you propose the US to take on Oct 7?? Seems to me that Israel demolished Gaza under the last President. Should the US have nuked it as well?
But, with regard to Iran, the US did not have to do a thing. Israel would have taken out the Ayatollah all by themselves. That’s the thing. The US didn’t really need to get involved at all. All they had to do was let Israel take the Ayatollah out.
We have wanted regime change for the longest time and the US didn’t have to do a thing and let Israel do all the dirty work. Yet Trump said no. Now, he wants to get the US involved and get into a war? Why??
But he hasn’t gotten us involved yet. Could it be that the threat has brought Iran to the negotiating table this week?
Oct 7 had nothing to do with Iran? Really?
If Israel takes out the Ayatollah, there certainly would be consequences for the U.S. Especially with the Fordo nuclear site still intact. Israel can't take that site out, only the U.S. can. U.S. tales out Fordo, Israel takes out the Ayatollah. Still possible consequences for the U.S. but Iran would much, much weaker after all of this.
lol. Exactly. In the end no matter how it turns out, all of you will genuflect to whatever action Trump does and say how great was Trump. lol.
Btw, the US was negotiating with Iran prior to any bombing from Israel. They were still negotiating when Israel struck.
What are you even talking about? Iran already was at the negotiating table! Not to mention the agreement that already was in place before Trump reneged on the deal!
Israel's very obvious motive for their unprovoked attack was to torpedo negotiations.
Please show me where Iran was involved in Oct 7? Iran denied any knowledge and was surprised by the attack. At best, there are reports that Hamas tried to persuade Iran to join in on this plan years before the attack. US intelligence stated that Iran was surprised by the attacks. Hamas stated that Iran did not have anything to do with it. So please show what evidence you have that Iran was behind the attack of Oct 7th?
Or are you going to simply state that since Iran and Hamas are allies, they are part of the attack
Trump is in your head…lol
Yeah, so what? Iran seemed to be dragging their feet. Remains to be seen, but they are back.
I root for every President to do what’s in our best interest. You seem to want Trump to fail even if the outcome is good for the US. Sad.
This is incredibly lazy of you. No desire to discuss the facts. Just glib epithets from an unserious person.
You just say things that have no grounding in history. When Israel was bombing Lebanon in 1982, Ronald Reagan phoned Menachem Begin and told him to stop. The bombing was called off within 20 minutes of that call. Of course the US can control what Israel does.
It must be incredibly freeing to just say whatever you want without regard for the facts.
Best thing for the US would have been to let Israel take the Ayatollah out. That was the best. Why? No US involvement. Two, Iran now has the knowledge to build a nuclear weapons. That knowledge is permanent. Destroying nuclear facilities is a temporary set back of at most 5 years. Probably less. Take the Ayatollah out which has been thought about for decades, should have been the plan. Bombing the facilities will always be an option. You may only get one or two chance in a lifetime to take out the Ayatollah.
The regime in Iran is an oppressive one even to their own people. Best interests in the US is to get rid of the Ayatollah. I am sure the US has always been in touch with more moderate forces in Iran.
And that may still happen.
Two, Iran now has the knowledge to build a nuclear weapons. That knowledge is permanent. Destroying nuclear facilities is a temporary set back of at most 5 years. Probably less. Take the Ayatollah out which has been thought about for decades, should have been the plan. Bombing the facilities will always be an option. You may only get one or two chance in a lifetime to take out the Ayatollah.
Regime changes are always tricky. History shows that…the old saying “Never wish for a new king”. In this case it makes sense, but there will be competing factions.
You CONSTANTLY say that people glorify everything Trump does. It’s not true. I often disagree with the republicans here but I can be honest and say you’re not correct on that point. The party I am affiliated (dems) are getting SMOKED because we can’t stop railing on Trump and his supporters (think boy who cried wolf) and at the same time let people like Whoopi Goldberg or Mandami or AOC or Soros or Pelisi or Bruce Springsteen or any other of the gazillion limo liberal carry the message…. which is what, exactly?
Whoopi one of the most ignorant people on TV remember her imploring Biden to name his wife Doctor Biden as surgeon general because she was a great doctor had to be informed during a commercial that she was not. a medical doctor. This comment is dumb even for her if that is possible.
I was hoping to come to this board and see any sort of humanity or compassion or at least rationality. Especially, in a group that I could only assume are Catholic. A few posters aside this is the most vile, uniformed, irrational group of humans who are the exact reason we got shoved into the costly, deadly Iraq war. Americas servicemen, not to mention the countless Iranian civilians, dying so a group of boomers can cosplaying as tough guys on a message isn’t enough for a war.
The lack of historical context or awareness is outstanding. I am almost jealous that I can’t go through life like that. It allows you to believe every nonsensical statement you type. Anyone not wholly against an unjustified, expensive, deadly war in a region of the country that we have been destabilizing for 80 years has been propagandized. I will pray for you. Be better humans. Be better Catholics. Learn from the departed Pope Francis. Learn humility,
The lack of historical context or awareness is outstanding. I am almost jealous that I can’t go through life like that. It allows you to believe every nonsensical statement you type. Anyone not wholly against an unjustified, expensive, deadly war in a region of the country that we have been destabilizing for 80 years has been propagandized. I will pray for you. Be better humans. Be better Catholics. Learn from the departed Pope Francis. Learn humility,
Depressing to ever have to link to a clip from ultimate garbage person Piers Morgan, but go to 25:48 for a detailed breakdown of exactly how that deal was structured, showing the absurdity of the notion that Iran ever was or is anywhere near making nuclear weapons, and almost certainly weren't even trying to, frankly. Note that Scott Horton is a well known libertarian, so decidely not a leftist voice that I, or you most likely, are generally eye to eye with.
Keep fighting the good fight here I guess. You're generally the only consistently good poster on LOTS anymore amongst these disgusting reactionaries & pathetic shitlib centrist equivocators.
