It is like an AI algorithm. Slowly house members on dem side promoting biden has a great legacy but time to move on...this is jfk without the assassination of bullets
Why does there have to always be a conspiracy behind things? No deep state. It’s the realization that Biden should not be in office. Biden apparently is resisting and more and more pressure will be placed on him in the next week. The real issue is who’s next. Most know that Kamala is a dead loser. But that will set up a fight. I say so be it. They have nothing to lose. Indeed bold steps need to be taken.It is like an AI algorithm. Slowly house members on dem side promoting biden has a great legacy but time to move on...this is jfk without the assassination of bullets
I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the slightest, but I will never believe a 90-minute performance on a debate stage, from someone who has been a gaffe machine his entire political life and had a campaign derailed because of plagiarism, led to this apparent "realization". That's the bigger story underlying all of this. Especially in the context of what his 2020 campaign was like (bunker-style) and how his press conferences, interviews and public access has been managed the past few years.Why does there have to always be a conspiracy behind things? No deep state. It’s the realization that Biden should not be in office. Biden apparently is resisting and more and more pressure will be placed on him in the next week. The real issue is who’s next. Most know that Kamala is a dead loser. But that will set up a fight. I say so be it. They have nothing to lose. Indeed bold steps need to be taken.
So the crooked mainstream media was red and yellow hulk hogan and in 3 weeks they turned to black and white hulk hogan. What was the purpose of of biden team and dnc pushing a late june debate dateWhy does there have to always be a conspiracy behind things? No deep state. It’s the realization that Biden should not be in office. Biden apparently is resisting and more and more pressure will be placed on him in the next week. The real issue is who’s next. Most know that Kamala is a dead loser. But that will set up a fight. I say so be it. They have nothing to lose. Indeed bold steps need to be taken.
Gaffes are one things and everyone has them. It’s seeing and hearing that Biden was out of it that day. It confirmed what the special counsel who investigated Biden on the documents.I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the slightest, but I will never believe a 90-minute performance on a debate stage, from someone who has been a gaffe machine his entire political life and had a campaign derailed because of plagiarism, led to this apparent "realization". That's the bigger story underlying all of this. Especially in the context of what his 2020 campaign was like (bunker-style) and how his press conferences, interviews and public access has been managed the past few years.
When you have Morning Joe literally 3 weeks ago spouting this is the "best version of Joe Biden", with all sorts of anecdotes surrounding that monologue -- the media who is closest to the President personally and the White House generally -- it reeks of something untoward. No one will convince me those 90 minutes suddenly turned the light bulb onto to the people who interact with the President on any kind of quasi-regular basis. Which leads to the question of what they've been keeping from everyone, which is a much bigger issue than the election itself.
its just the media saying whatever gets views at all times and typically whats supports their own viewpoints. no conspiracy here. of course dem outlets are going to prop up joe his entire presidency. what am i missing? his time is likely over and now they wanna move on.I'm not a conspiracy theorist in the slightest, but I will never believe a 90-minute performance on a debate stage, from someone who has been a gaffe machine his entire political life and had a campaign derailed because of plagiarism, led to this apparent "realization". That's the bigger story underlying all of this. Especially in the context of what his 2020 campaign was like (bunker-style) and how his press conferences, interviews and public access has been managed the past few years.
When you have Morning Joe literally 3 weeks ago spouting this is the "best version of Joe Biden", with all sorts of anecdotes surrounding that monologue -- the media who is closest to the President personally and the White House generally -- it reeks of something untoward. No one will convince me those 90 minutes suddenly turned the light bulb onto to the people who interact with the President on any kind of quasi-regular basis. Which leads to the question of what they've been keeping from everyone, which is a much bigger issue than the election itself.
Maybe they thought he could play rope a dope and just recite a bunch of meaningless facts. They had a ridiculously low bar. Then the first ten minutes happened.What confuses me, why did he and his campaign staff agree to the debate? Or why didn’t they cancel when it was clear of his decline?
They have protected him from press conferences and interviews for years, but left him for 90 min alone on a stage. Bizzare to me.
lot of people here thouhht the debate was a set up against trump.Maybe they thought he could play rope a dope and just recite a bunch of meaningless facts. They had a ridiculously low bar. Then the first ten minutes happened.
There was no setup for the debate. Its just shine the light on the phoniness and incompetence of the political system and MSM.lot of people here thouhht the debate was a set up against trump.
After the special counsel report came out, anyone who raised this issue was shouted down, repeatedly, by most of the media, the White House, Biden surrogates and frankly anyone and everyone who supports or supported him. But now it's legit?Gaffes are one things and everyone has them. It’s seeing and hearing that Biden was out of it that day. It confirmed what the special counsel who investigated Biden on the documents.
Is he worse than what he was in December or January? Yeah that can happen. What also could have happened is that his team tried to hide his progressive worsening mental acuity. What’s the conspiracy trying to accomplish by doing it this way? Would it have not been better to have the top Dems go out there and debate and see who cones out it?
This is no way is advantageous for the Dems. This, no reason for a conspiracy.
how can the dems do the same thing when you cant stop posting dems that are calling for him to step down?There was no setup for the debate. Its just shine the light on the phoniness and incompetence of the political system and MSM.
The irony is that the MSM criticizes Trump loyalists for supporting him no matter what….well guess what? Dems are doing the same thing with a senile old man who can barely function. And the MSM has been complicit for months.
It started with the bunker campaign during COVID.The big debate within democrats save democracy or save power. Give the people who they voted for or get a new candidate.
I get really lost reading this thread. Everyone keeps talking about Biden declining the last few months. It’s been years people. They’ve been shielding him from himself for over 4 years. This is the same guy people voted for in the primary.
this is so false. for one, dementia can be very quickly onset.but disregard that. it's not stagnant over the course of 4 years. EVERY mental issue like this gets worse over time. crazy to even suggest he was just as bad 4 years ago. it's day one stuff. not how degenerative diseases, or life work.The big debate within democrats save democracy or save power. Give the people who they voted for or get a new candidate.
I get really lost reading this thread. Everyone keeps talking about Biden declining the last few months. It’s been years people. They’ve been shielding him from himself for over 4 years. This is the same guy people voted for in the primary.
Oh stop years ago he couldn't find his way on or off stage. This is not new. This is not a new condition he didn't have during the primaries. The people who voted for him to be the nominee should not be shocked by this.this is so false. for one, dementia can be very quickly onset.but disregard that. it's not stagnant over the course of 4 years. EVERY mental issue like this gets worse over time. crazy to even suggest he was just as bad 4 years ago. it's day one stuff. not how degenerative diseases, or life work.
I'm not ready to call it a conspiracy theory...... but a strange set of facts accompany Biden's 2nd term try. 1. The debate itself. Who pushed to challenge Trump to such an early debate? 2. Given Biden's numerous gaffes and bad performances over the length of his presidency who from his WH staff thought this was a good idea. 3. Immediately after debate was over..... ALL.... MSM outlets gave it a resounding thumbs down and some called for him to drop out then. Keep in mind how they all touted how good he has been and covered his behind dutifully since 2020. They ALL feigned shock. To me this was either the height of hubris or the result of a narrative being crafted for them. Or both.Why does there have to always be a conspiracy behind things? No deep state. It’s the realization that Biden should not be in office. Biden apparently is resisting and more and more pressure will be placed on him in the next week. The real issue is who’s next. Most know that Kamala is a dead loser. But that will set up a fight. I say so be it. They have nothing to lose. Indeed bold steps need to be taken.
IMO it’s not a conspiracy theory because you would need hundreds of smart people from the party and MSM to construct it and pull it off. “Smart politicians and MSM” is an oxymoron.I'm not ready to call it a conspiracy theory...... but a strange set of facts accompany Biden's 2nd term try. 1. The debate itself. Who pushed to challenge Trump to such an early debate? 2. Given Biden's numerous gaffes and bad performances over the length of his presidency who from his WH staff thought this was a good idea. 3. Immediately after debate was over..... ALL.... MSM outlets gave it a resounding thumbs down and some called for him to drop out then. Keep in mind how they all touted how good he has been and covered his behind dutifully since 2020. They ALL feigned shock. To me this was either the height of hubris or the result of a narrative being crafted for them. Or both.
There is more to say on this.... but the big question I have is how many dem voters are upset at having been lied to for 4 years by demdes and the compliant MSM. If all you listened to were nyt. Wapo, NPR, and the alphabet cable shows not called Fox Newsmax and one or two others..... you my friends have been DUPED. Dems deserve the chaos they have now.
to say somebodies mental acuity doesn't decrease over 4 years as an old person isnt even with arguing over. it's simple reality.Oh stop years ago he couldn't find his way on or off stage. This is not new. This is not a new condition he didn't have during the primaries. The people who voted for him to be the nominee should not be shocked by this.
He hasn't been like this for 4 years? Here's a Joe's blunders video from 2022. So there's nothing new in here.to say somebodies mental acuity doesn't decrease over 4 years as an old person isnt even with arguing over. it's simple reality.
sure maybe he's been like this since primaries, but im responding to the comments that he's been like this for 4 years. clearly this is crossing a new line. hes been on camera/tv all the time in his 4 years and this is the first time it's been this severe. Dems don't want to lose the white house. they thought he could hang on enough. his public appearances were doing so. its backfiring.
why does everyone act like these parties are absolutely dying to do the worst thing for themselves? like they're trying to have one big set up so they can ..... lose again to donald trump. not even logical.
no do george bush, trump, reagan, etc. Trumps current blunder video complication is worse tbh. greensboro, richmond , vegas, etc.He hasn't been like this for 4 years? Here's a Joe's blunders video from 2022. So there's nothing new in here.
They all have blunders but none of them were ever pulled for their blunders. Trying to pull Joe from the race because of his blunders as if these blunders are a new thing is false.no do george bush, trump, reagan, etc. Trumps current blunder video complication is worse tbh. greensboro, richmond , vegas, etc.
Joe has been president last 4 years and things have been fine. not saying amazing, but far from a disaster. proof is in the pudding. hes been fine , but now it's crossing the line.
i dont buy into conspiracy.
everyone has blunders then why are they trying to pull joe. because they are worse now. they could have put up other candidates for primary. its that simple.They all have blunders but none of them were ever pulled for their blunders. Trying to pull Joe from the race because of his blunders as if these blunders are a new thing is false.
Joe’s videos aren’t just blunders. There was a serious medical issue that was being ignored. Of all those other examples, no one from the parties of those presidents were asking them not to run.no do george bush, trump, reagan, etc. Trumps current blunder video complication is worse tbh. greensboro, richmond , vegas, etc.
Let’s look at the last eight years if we’re being honest. If you look at the worst things that happened under Trump’s and Biden‘s presidency‘s?Joe has been president last 4 years and things have been fine. not saying amazing, but far from a disaster. proof is in the pudding. hes been fine , but now it's crossing the line.
i dont buy into conspiracy.
Because it has been so obvious. If you have experience with an elderly parent or grandparent that went through a similar decline, we all saw it coming. The lucid moments become less frequent and the lapses much worse. Common sense….what does the next 4 1/2 years look like considering the long term decline that has accelerated?everyone has blunders then why are they trying to pull joe. because they are worse now. they could have put up other candidates for primary. its that simple.
idk how you're trying to make a matter of fact some sort of complicated situation. listen to yourself. idk how you get through a day.
They’re not worse now. How long ago was he saying he was talking to leaders who were dead? 2 years ago? This isn’t worse noweveryone has blunders then why are they trying to pull joe. because they are worse now. they could have put up other candidates for primary. its that simple.
idk how you're trying to make a matter of fact some sort of complicated situation. listen to yourself. idk how you get through a day.
he's absolutely worse now. in fact, every day hes worse than the previous. thats how it works.They’re not worse now. How long ago was he saying he was talking to leaders who were dead? 2 years ago? This isn’t worse now
so incorrect people have their good days and bad days. He had terrible moments before the state of the union.. Had a great night at the state of the union and had plenty of bad moments lately.he's absolutely worse now. in fact, every day hes worse than the previous. thats how it works.