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[SHUHoopsFan]

State Minimum Wage Laws

www.dol.gov

You are narrowing this to high school kids to side jobs, there are grown adults that are making less than 10 dollars an hour. Tell me what 400 dollars gross a week gets you? I can go to my local home depot tomorrow morning and find grown older adults who lost their job/career working the floor for 9.50 an hour cant tell you shit about a tool or the difference between a wood screw and a masonry screw but they are able and home depot happy to attempt to fill the floor with perceived competency at little labor costs.

So should we take high schoolers out of the work force so the single mother of 3 working the convenient store register can make $20 per hour and put the convenient store out of business? Should we have minimum wage based on age? Tell me what the business owner making $120k net is going to do when you increase his or her labor cost by 40%?

 

[Section112]

Not sure I agree with that. If repubs had a better candidate, those states would not be close to in play.

Never Hillary got Trump elected and now Never Trump may get Biden elected. Neither got elected because of their policies or party.

Exactly! Well said. Trump forgot why he got elected and a big part of it was so many hated Hillary. Then he went on with his crazy ass tweets and silly comments and made himself the hated one with a huge assist from the MSM by the way. If he was just a little nicer and handled Covid a little better he wins this election.

 

[Merge]

If he was just a little nicer and handled Covid a little better he wins this election.

Yep. He gambled on Covid because he thought it was going to hurt his re-election chances. Made the wrong choice.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Exactly! Well said. Trump forgot why he got elected and a big part of it was so many hated Hillary. Then he went on with his crazy ass tweets and silly comments and made himself the hated one with a huge assist from the MSM by the way. If he was just a little nicer and handled Covid a little better he wins this election.

Do we forgot that msm and places like cnn gave him great big platform almost daily in 2015 and 2016

 

[shu09]

I still say that if any normal, decent human being was elected and had Trump's policies, that person would be wildly popular and be re-elected easily.

Now that also does work both ways. Trump's personality and gravitas certainly enhances the movement. But I still feel his personal feelings and nastiness hurt more than it helps.

 

[SHUSA]

It would be nice to see supporters of the Democratic party come to the realization that their platform is not what the majority of the US wants, given the 2-3% splits in the popular vote in the last 2 elections, and that was running against an extremely unlikeable opponent. Same for the Republican party, but the condescending talk from the left about very progressive philosophy being what's best for the country is tiring -- and has been beat up pretty good at the polls.

i agree with this and i think the close split this time is definitely related to placing kamala harris at vp with bidens health being a big ?

if biden wins i really hope he makes it his term. i think he will. absolutely nobody wants kamala and president in the same sentence. moronic move by the dems

 

[SHUSA]

I still say that if any normal, decent human being was elected and had Trump's policies, that person would be wildly popular and be re-elected easily.

Now that also does work both ways. Trump's personality and gravitas certainly enhances the movement. But I still feel his personal feelings and nastiness hurt more than it helps.

im in this boat but at the end of the day i believe decent human beings should be rewarded and his behavior about possibly losing should be a massive turn off to everyone

 

[donnie_baseball]

I disagree with this. Florida voters approved a $15 minimum wage despite going against Biden, Colorado voters approved a paid family leave program, and SD, AZ, and NJ all legalized marijuana.

I don't believe progressive policies are what are turning voters off. In fact, I think democrats need to run on these policies because a lot of them have a plurality of support, and I think running on these policies is a much better case to make to voters than "Orange Man Bad."

Just look at these Fox News polls. These policies are broadly popular!

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So suddenly Fox news is a reliable source of information? Progressive platform plus bad candidates is why Democrats lost, then struggled versus possibly the worst person to ever become President. Period.

 

[Robot_Man]

So suddenly Fox news is a reliable source of information? Progressive platform plus bad candidates is why Democrats lost, then struggled versus possibly the worst person to ever become President. Period.

It's a Fox News poll of voters, as far as I can tell. So maybe like a Fox News exit poll. Joe Biden is a bad candidate, though, I'll give you that.

By the way, this keeps going:

 

[SHUSA]

It's a Fox News poll of voters, as far as I can tell. So maybe like a Fox News exit poll. Joe Biden is a bad candidate, though, I'll give you that.

By the way, this keeps going:

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fox news sugarcoats everything for the GOP. so if their story is aligning with left news/opinions etc then you really have a good idea of the situation.

regardless i think most votes are against the big bad orange man and generally people are afraid of being to far left which is why harris was such an awful choice. but looks like the anti trump vote is whats driving the election.

 

[BrooklynPirate]

I wish I caddied at the golf course! I worked in a supermarket in high school, made something around $6.00/hr. That's who those jobs are designed for. They're not designed to be a full time gig for a mother of three. You learn about how business works, how the world works, etc. It's great for a high schooler to make a few bucks and gain some experience.

McDonald's paid its CEO almost 2,000 times as much as the average worker in 2019, with executive compensation topping $18 million

McDonald's CEO compensation in 2019 was 1,939 times what the median worker at the fast-food giant made in the same year.

www.businessinsider.com

Tell me again what the "designer" of these jobs was interested in.

 

[donnie_baseball]

McDonald's paid its CEO almost 2,000 times as much as the average worker in 2019, with executive compensation topping $18 million

McDonald's CEO compensation in 2019 was 1,939 times what the median worker at the fast-food giant made in the same year.

www.businessinsider.com

Tell me again what the "designer" of these jobs was interested in.

I've never understood the point of comparisons like the CEO versus the cashier.

Your plumber makes a lot more than your trash collector. Is the plumber overpaid or the trash guy underpaid?

 

[NYShoreGuy]

I've never understood the point of comparisons like the CEO versus the cashier.

Your plumber makes a lot more than your trash collector. Is the plumber overpaid or the trash guy underpaid?

Hey you know what donnie B, being part of NYC Sanitation department may not be that terrible, of course not equal to other areas of country

NYC Sanitation Exam - Civil Service Success

New York City Sanitation Worker Exam will be in 2022. The filing period for the exam will be between June 8th, 2022 to June 28th, 2022. Starting Salary $47,371 goes to $89,339 Plus Amazing Benefits Although it might not look tough enough, landing a job in the NYC Sanitation Department is one...

www.civilservicesuccess.com

About 15 years ago or so right before xmas holiday the transit union that represents the nyc mta subway workers went on strike, as a unionized janitor to clean bathrooms, base rate was 55k or so

 

[TomD82]

Exactly! Well said. Trump forgot why he got elected and a big part of it was so many hated Hillary. Then he went on with his crazy ass tweets and silly comments and made himself the hated one with a huge assist from the MSM by the way. If he was just a little nicer and handled Covid a little better he wins this election.

Agree. He would have easily won the 270 electoral votes. Democrats got lucky with Covid because they have blown it on jobs, trade and taxes. They could not even win the Cuban vote in Florida.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Agree. He would have easily won the 270 electoral votes. Democrats got lucky with Covid because they have blown it on jobs, trade and taxes. They could not even win the Cuban vote in Florida.

Cuban and Venezuelan Latinos are far different than SSLA immigrants from other regions

 

[Section112]

Cuban and Venezuelan Latinos are far different than SSLA immigrants from other regions

Yea they have seen socialism first hand and don't want it here.

 

[shu09]

McDonald's paid its CEO almost 2,000 times as much as the average worker in 2019, with executive compensation topping $18 million

McDonald's CEO compensation in 2019 was 1,939 times what the median worker at the fast-food giant made in the same year.

www.businessinsider.com

Tell me again what the "designer" of these jobs was interested in.

You don't believe the CEO of a huge, multinational corporation like McDonalds should be paid far more than a burger flipper at one of their locations? Wow...

 

[shu09]

Cuban and Venezuelan Latinos are far different than SSLA immigrants from other regions

They are victims of socialism and communism. They came to America to get away from that.

What is SSLA?

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

You don't believe the CEO of a huge, multinational corporation like McDonalds should be paid far more than a burger flipper at one of their locations? Wow...

Amazes me that so many people who are worried about Russia collusion love communist and socialist economic principles.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

They are victims of socialism and communism. They came to America to get away from that.

What is SSLA?

Spanish Speaking Latin America, socialism in a perfect delivery is fairness to all in particular merits

 

[NYShoreGuy]

The Meaning of "Socialism" to Americans Today

Asked to define socialism, 24% of Americans mention "equality," while 17% say it is government ownership of the means of production.

news.gallup.com

 

[TomD82]

If Trump didn't make disparaging remarks about John McCain he would have won Arizona, too.

 

[Hallsome]

Shu09 a raise of minimum wage is a gradual raise of the floor not one lumpsome come this coming Jan 1. I really question some of your philosophies. This whole country is built on the rich corporations keeping 80 percent of the money and give all the workforce to divide 20 percent amongst the wages.

Did you not have small side jobs in high school or did you caddy at the golf course instead?

Back in my day and its not so long ago minimum wage was 5.15 an hour. I worked at a mom and pop grocery and butcher shop half of my senior year of high school. I then worked at an ice cream shop or parlor for some of our older population here. It was owned by an older senior citizen married couple that previously got screwed being a franchisee of tom carvel. They complained then that minimum wage was too high as it is. Their staff was their lone son who had to be getting salary, me and 3 females all high schoolers. We worked after school til closing and on weekends. The son and the dad handled most of the big projects, the dad's wife did the speciality cakes. Cheapest people i ever met in my life. A plastic spoon fell on the floor, told me to put it in the wash. That place didnt have a dish washer, sometimes i was the dish washer. I get they had expenses for rent at the shopping plaza, city water, electricity and buying product to make all the favors, cakes, sandwiches and other speciality items. They also did events for scouts and birthdays and special occasions.

Comparitively those on here in their mid 40s to 60s and 70s will say they made far less back in the day per hour but everything was so much less expensive then vs now. Gas, milk, subway/bus fare etc. Now its extortion just to get by. The minimum wage worker will not able to surivive in this country in the next 5 to 10 years. Maybe you can let them build a shack on your property out of hay and milk cartons so they can live somewhat comfortable.

Again this goes back to what our arguments have been over the past months, there is significant class and race divide still in this country and neither party has conquered at least in modern generations and 60 year issue.

So your conclusion in this quite long and very personal post is we should continue to do what we’ve done to solve a perceived problem: increase the minimum wage.

NYSG why didnt u just solve everyone’s problems back then? You should’ve required chocolate and vanilla swirl

 

[Hallsome]

Do we forgot that msm and places like cnn gave him great big platform almost daily in 2015 and 2016

What does this even mean?

 

[BrooklynPirate]

You don't believe the CEO of a huge, multinational corporation like McDonalds should be paid far more than a burger flipper at one of their locations? Wow...

1,939 times more?

 

[shu09]

1,939 times more?

Sure, why not? His job is a heck of a lot harder than theirs. Huge responsibility.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Sure, why not? His job is a heck of a lot harder than theirs. Huge responsibility.

Steve Easterbrook ousted as McDonald’s CEO

The company said he had a consensual relationship with an employee. Chris Kempczinski was named CEO.

www.restaurantbusinessonline.com

McDonald’s President and Chief Executive Officer, McDonald's USA: Chris Kempczinski | McDonald's

McDonald’s President and Chief Executive Officer, McDonald's USA, Chris Kempczinski has run the world’s largest restaurant company since 2015. Learn more about him today!

www.mcdonalds.com

What is he doing as ceo? Having weekly zooms with roi ronnie and kpi kevin?