Lineup Revamp

[shu67]

Okay we are not going to any tourney after the season ends.

So let me propose the following. Let's really make some big changes to the starting lineup.

If we truly have a 7'2" kid (Assane Mbaye) on the roster and he is not injured why not start him at center? Let him play a one man zone in the low post on "D". Our centers are not scoring much anyway and at least a kid this big can offer some interior presence in the paint? Maybe get a few rebounds? A lob pass or two to drop it in?

Gus and Middleton start at the 2 forward spots.

Coleman and Felton start at the guard spots.

Let them play the first 10 minutes together and then and only then make substitutions if the game is not competitive.

Look the center position is not giving much rebounding or offense. So how could playing MBaye hurt? Is Sha trying to redshirt him? Makes no sense in this era of NIL etc. Playing Mbaye gives the team a whole new look on the court and hope for next year!

 

[Piratz]

Sha has a certain style and expectation level. He wants players going balls to the wall in practice, then they start. How many times did he complain about this in his first two seasons here? Many. But now he's got a team that's entirely players he selected to play for him and it's the worst its ever been. NG. He's trying to mesh 10 new players and some of them will not do what he wants. He's telling us that, the lineups and playing time are reflective of that.

In short, it's a disaster.

In an ideal world, I would start this:

Dual - he's down to 8 and 9 minutes the past 2 games.
Jenkins
Coleman
Middleton
Erheriene

Felton and Yalden gets more regular run in the rotation. He can still worship at the altar of DAW if he wants.

That's 5/6 players who are sophomores or freshmen. I'd rather do that and force feed to see what we have and what could be possibly molded into a future. Get them time get them minutes. But if they're not doing what Sha wants in practice, then what are you supposed to do? Let them run the asylum?

 

[shu67]

Your ideal world may be Okay but....

You did not change the starting lineup all that much from the one that has been losing games. Dual and Jenkins are NOT the answer to improving the results. I see them better serving the team off the bench. They were the starting back court for much of the early season disasters.

 

[Hall Is Life]

We lost by 22 yesterday and it didn’t even feel that close. Sha has tried every lineup possible with this team. He has no clue and he’s making that clearer and clearer with each passing game. Dude butchered this season. Good news is it can’t really get any worse next year.

 

[shu67]

He has NOT tried every possible lineup. Not even close.

Mbaye 7'2"
Gus 6'9"
Middleton 6'7"
Felton 6'5"
Coleman 6'5"

I have never seen that.

 

[sami]

He has NOT tried every possible lineup. Not even close.

Mbaye
Gus
Middleton
Felton
Coleman

I have never seen that.

You’re shocked we haven’t seen him start a walk on yet?

 

[Hall91]

Shaheen needs to land on a set 8 to 10 man rotation. Terrible team chemistry. Puzzling why he hasn’t figured this out by now.

 

[HallPirate]

Why would you want to set a rotation when the team sucks? Makes more sense to tinker to try to find a combo that may work together

 

[HallGuy23]

It’s not that complicated. There’s no lineup Shaheen can put out there that will be better than our opponent. 90% of the roster doesn’t belong in the Big East.

Shuffling the lineup and shortening the bench isn’t going to make a difference in results.

Just play the young guys and see if there’s any hope if they decide to stay.

 

[Burnsly]

Jenkins & Coleman are the only 2 players that can score by creating their own offense & keep the ball moving. Since we have no post game or any kind of offensive game plan, they both need to be on the court as much as possible. FWIW, both were really bad yesterday on the defensive end.

 

[shu67]

You’re shocked we haven’t seen him start a walk on yet?

At 7'2" all he has to do is stand there in the paint and keep his arms up. Not too difficult a concept! What we have put out there so far is not doing any better! They might as well all be walk ons!

 

[Wolf11642]

He was 7’2 and had to walk on here because he has no game yet. Please stop the unserious posts

 

[Bud Boomer]

Your ideal world may be Okay but....

You did not change the starting lineup all that much from the one that has been losing games. Dual and Jenkins are NOT the answer to improving the results. I see them better serving the team off the bench. They were the starting back court for much of the early season disasters.

The results aren’t going to improve regardless. This is a bad team. The sharp move is to start planning for next season by prioritizing the young players to see if we have anything worth keeping and building around. Maybe a few of them start to improve with extended run.

 

[chickenbox]

The results aren’t going to improve regardless. This is a bad team. The sharp move is to start planning for next season by prioritizing the young players to see if we have anything worth keeping and building around. Maybe a few of them start to improve with extended run.

I know it's crazy to imagine, but with more rotation consistency and time playing together it's possible the results could improve. And maybe even with savvy coaching adjustments.

 

[Bud Boomer]

I know it's crazy to imagine, but with more rotation consistency and time playing together it's possible the results could improve. And maybe even with savvy coaching adjustments.

Maybe. It wouldn’t shock me. I don’t think we are going to find out, unfortunately.

 

[Seton00]

Shaheen needs to land on a set 8 to 10 man rotation. Terrible team chemistry. Puzzling why he hasn’t figured this out by now.

Apparently, they don't practice.

 

[dehere23]

It’s not that complicated. There’s no lineup Shaheen can put out there that will be better than our opponent. 90% of the roster doesn’t belong in the Big East.

Shuffling the lineup and shortening the bench isn’t going to make a difference in results.

Just play the young guys and see if there’s any hope if they decide to stay.

If you think 90% doesn’t belong in the Big East, then that speaks to a massive “miss” by our own evaluators and, frankly, prior schools.

DAW and Coleman have been in the BE already for years.

Prince, Manny, Gus, Scotty and Dual all came from high majors and several of them were ranked highly out of prep.

Godswill and Felton were taken by the staff out of HS because presumably they were viewed as BE caliber players.

That’s 9 right there even if you think Toumi and Jenkins aren’t BE players, and most seem to think at least Jenkins could be at the bottom of some other BE rosters.

 

[U-Hall]

Here's what are starting five could have been:

• Kadary Richmond - PG
• Isaiah Coleman - SG
• Tae Davis - PF
• Dre Davis - SF
• Abou Ousmane - C

That team could have done some damage.

 

[ivyhillparkk1963]

Here's what are starting five could have been:

• Kadary Richmond - PG
• Isaiah Coleman - SG
• Tae Davis - PF
• Dre Davis - SF
• Abou Ousmane - C

That team could have done some damage.
Winning is secondary in the NIL world

 

[Hall91]

Here's what are starting five could have been:

• Kadary Richmond - PG
• Isaiah Coleman - SG
• Tae Davis - PF
• Dre Davis - SF
• Abou Ousmane - C

That team could have done some damage.

Well, Shaheen didn[t want to pay Kadary and Dre what they wanted. The interesting question is; is this because he didn’t want to, or couldn’t do it. I don’t think it’s the latter.

 

[dehere23]

Hard to speculate when no one knows why the kids left and to what extent $ was the driving factor, if at all.

 

[SHUSA]

Sha has a certain style and expectation level. He wants players going balls to the wall in practice, then they start. How many times did he complain about this in his first two seasons here? Many. But now he's got a team that's entirely players he selected to play for him and it's the worst its ever been. NG. He's trying to mesh 10 new players and some of them will not do what he wants. He's telling us that, the lineups and playing time are reflective of that.

In short, it's a disaster.

In an ideal world, I would start this:

Dual - he's down to 8 and 9 minutes the past 2 games.
Jenkins
Coleman
Middleton
Erheriene

Felton and Yalden gets more regular run in the rotation. He can still worship at the altar of DAW if he wants.

That's 5/6 players who are sophomores or freshmen. I'd rather do that and force feed to see what we have and what could be possibly molded into a future. Get them time get them minutes. But if they're not doing what Sha wants in practice, then what are you supposed to do? Let them run the asylum?

Dual is bad. you cant play him. need to have a remote offensive threat leading the starter minutes. id move felton. the rest is fine although i'd probably give gus half the minutes. our big men are a disaster

 

[SHUSA]

Hard to speculate when no one knows why the kids left and to what extent $ was the driving factor, if at all.

lol this is such a dumb comment. its the same reason everyone leaves now. $$$. don't overthink it.

 

[newshu1]

You’re shocked we haven’t seen him start a walk on yet?

As the great Jeremy Hazell would say...pass me that henny boss

 

[newshu1]

At this point in the season, you build around the core players you hope to keep next year. No sense in investing in Wusu or some of these other guys who are leaving next year. Build Coleman up as much as you can and create sets around him as the center piece

 

[Hall Is Life]

At this point in the season, you build around the core players you hope to keep next year. No sense in investing in Wusu or some of these other guys who are leaving next year. Build Coleman up as much as you can and create sets around him as the center piece

You’re being too logical!

 

[shu67]

He was 7’2 and had to walk on here because he has no game yet. Please stop the unserious posts

Please stop with the unfounded critique!

By CHARLIE PARENT


Assane Mbaye, a 7-foot-3 big man in the class of 2024, has committed to Seton Hall, he announced Thursday night.


The Patrick School product (NJ) recorded 41 blocks in just 12 in-state games last season as TPS went onto a 27-4 national record and 12-0 in those games.


Shaheen Holloway continues to reconstruct a Pirate roster that lost nine players to the Transfer Portal this offseason, including leading scorer Kadary Richmond.


Mbaye is the third class of 2024 signee, joining Jahseem Felton and Godswill Erheriene.


Holloway and the Pirates have also brought in transfers Scotty Middleton (Ohio State), Prince Aligbe (Boston College), Chaunce Jenkins (Old Dominion) and Gus Yalden (Wisconsin).

 

[shu67]

He was 7’2 and had to walk on here because he has no game yet. Please stop the unserious posts

Here is a video clip if it will allow me to post it of your so called coordination of a paraplegic. Gee amazing how he went so far downhill from high school!

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Okay we are not going to any tourney after the season ends.

We only need about 150 teams to back out. In todays world of college sports, there’s a chance.