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Mark Few drunk video

Athletic Director at Gonzaga pulled a fast one here. Smart but not morally sound. He suspended him for only 1 game, the season opener, which was originally Texas. So what the AD decided to do was to add Dixie state to play on November 9th right before that game so he didn’t have to even miss the real opening game against Texas.

The AD then announced it was really a 3 game suspension, because get this, he is also missing 2 exhibition games vs D3 teams that don’t count anyway (and midnight madness).
 
Other than the fact we know he blew a high BAC (very bad and inexcusable!*)—and that he was driving with two huge dogs in car (also a distraction!)—he doesn’t sound that unreasonable? Those tests are subjective! And if detained by cops a call to attorney seems merited!

* Other than that Ms. Lincoln…
 
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Other than the fact we know he blew a high BAC (very bad and inexcusable!*)—and that he was driving with two huge dogs in car (also a distraction!)—he doesn’t sound that unreasonable? Those tests are subjective! And if detained by cops a call to attorney seems merited!

* Other than that Ms. Lincoln…
Call to attorney is warranted if you’re placed under arrest, not in the middle of a traffic stop.

Officer: License and registration, sir?
John Q: Hold on, my attorney’s admin is getting him.
 
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Other than the fact we know he blew a high BAC (very bad and inexcusable!*)—and that he was driving with two huge dogs in car (also a distraction!)—he doesn’t sound that unreasonable? Those tests are subjective! And if detained by cops a call to attorney seems merited!

* Other than that Ms. Lincoln…
He wasn’t objecting because he thought the tests were subjective and unreasonable, he was objecting because he knew he was drunk. LOL
 
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Athletic Director at Gonzaga pulled a fast one here. Smart but not morally sound. He suspended him for only 1 game, the season opener, which was originally Texas. So what the AD decided to do was to add Dixie state to play on November 9th right before that game so he didn’t have to even miss the real opening game against Texas.

The AD then announced it was really a 3 game suspension, because get this, he is also missing 2 exhibition games vs D3 teams that don’t count anyway (and midnight madness).
That's what enablers do. And that's why A type personalities do what Few did when presented with a problem of his own doing.

Notice Few's first reaction when confronted by the cop? Call his lawyer (another enabler) to solve his problem.
 
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If he got pulled over in Spokane instead of Idaho, he would have been escorted home and gotten a formal apology from the chief for the inconvenience.
 
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I am sure no other rich and famous guy did this. Like every part of life have the dough and things are slanted your way. Its always been so. Next.
 
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Athletic Director at Gonzaga pulled a fast one here. Smart but not morally sound. He suspended him for only 1 game, the season opener, which was originally Texas. So what the AD decided to do was to add Dixie state to play on November 9th right before that game so he didn’t have to even miss the real opening game against Texas.

The AD then announced it was really a 3 game suspension, because get this, he is also missing 2 exhibition games vs D3 teams that don’t count anyway (and midnight madness).
I’d go easy on the moral high ground here. Few made a mistake many many people have before, whether they got caught or not. The AD did exactly what most if not all other high major ADs would do - find a way to discipline him to some degree publicly without hurting the schools program that much. Doubt Seton Hall would have done any different.
 
Disagree here.

Why even suspend the guy if you are going to pull shady stuff to offset the punishment?

I’d go easy on the moral high ground here. Few made a mistake many many people have before, whether they got caught or not. The AD did exactly what most if not all other high major ADs would do - find a way to discipline him to some degree publicly without hurting the schools program that much. Doubt Seton Hall would have done any different.
 
To me what struck me was not the DUI, which obviously is bad enough, but Few's reaction to the officers who showed him far more respect than he deserved.

Dismissive, impatient, angry, and untruthful. Basically the reactions of a person who feels he is above it all.
 
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The AD should have pulled a Quinlan and suspended him for the first 3 road games using the logic that the offense occurred “on the road”.
 
To me what struck me was not the DUI, which obviously is bad enough, but Few's reaction to the officers who showed him far more respect than he deserved.

Dismissive, impatient, angry, and untruthful. Basically the reactions of a person who feels he is above it all.
Maybe it’s my natural inclination to be skeptical of authority—and not in anyway excusing Few’s behavior—but thought cop was being kind of an obnoxious jerk.
 
To me what struck me was not the DUI, which obviously is bad enough, but Few's reaction to the officers who showed him far more respect than he deserved.

Dismissive, impatient, angry, and untruthful. Basically the reactions of a person who feels he is above it all.
I agree. He behave in a manner that radiated "doesn't this cop realize who i am". Bad form by Mark Few.
 
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Disagree here.

Why even suspend the guy if you are going to pull shady stuff to offset the punishment?
Few was wrong on multiple levels. I don’t think the school’s response is outside the norm of how most any other high major program would react. That’s my only point. You can criticize the system and that view generally, but if we had a HC of Few’s stature, I don’t think our response would be altogether different. When our own HC was in the same boat at Louisville, I’m pretty sure he went to Uncle Ricky to fix it. It wasn’t dealt with like how you or I would have been addressed if it happened to us.
 
Maybe it’s my natural inclination to be skeptical of authority—and not in anyway excusing Few’s behavior—but thought cop was being kind of an obnoxious jerk.
Wow, we certainly saw it differently. My view is that the officer could not have handled it better.
 
Maybe it’s my natural inclination to be skeptical of authority—and not in anyway excusing Few’s behavior—but thought cop was being kind of an obnoxious jerk.

I thought the same to some extent. He can't call his attorney because "we're talking?" C'mon. Even if he can't call his attorney until he is placed under arrest, at least tell him the real reason instead of some BS answer like that.

All in all I think this was a standard encounter for someone suspected of DUI, but certainly Few (and I think the officer as well to some extent) could have handled it better.
 
I didn’t even mention it from Few’s perspective. I was taking about the enabler ADs that would pull shady stuff to lesser an already small punishment.

I don’t think Few should be suspended for a whole lot longer or not be forgiven but to just miss 1 nobody game that was created so he wouldn’t miss Texas doesn’t t sit well.

As far as Willard I hope he got some form of punishment and learned from it and moved when he was with Pitino.


Few was wrong on multiple levels. I don’t think the school’s response is outside the norm of how most any other high major program would react. That’s my only point. You can criticize the system and that view generally, but if we had a HC of Few’s stature, I don’t think our response would be altogether different. When our own HC was in the same boat at Louisville, I’m pretty sure he went to Uncle Ricky to fix it. It wasn’t dealt with like how you or I would have been addressed if it happened to us.
 
Really not a big deal. He made a mistake driving drunk like so many others have done. He tried to avoid the charge and thought calling his attorney would prevent the arrest or not doing the field sobriety tests. He was wrong for thinking that but in his heart he knew he would fail the tests so what was the point in doing them.

I think the comments on Few that were made were harsh. Most people want to avoid getting charged. He didn’t resist or get violent. This is nothing. Take his punishment and move on.
 
Willard experience highlights more that the Gonzaga AD reaction to Fews DUI even more questionable.
If Willard was at Seton Hall and it happened, he would not lose his job because of the resume he’s established as a coach. Times that by 30 and you now have Few. If you think we wouldn’t have done something similar or equivalent to what Zags did, I disagree. We are on no moral high ground when it comes to high major college basketball.
 
If Willard was at Seton Hall and it happened, he would not lose his job because of the resume he’s established as a coach. Times that by 30 and you now have Few. If you think we wouldn’t have done something similar or equivalent to what Zags did, I disagree. We are on no moral high ground when it comes to high major college basketball.
Never said he would get fired or anything equivalent to losing a job. So I have no idea why you are giving extreme punishments here to make a case for yourself.

If you actually read what i wrote I said a few games and not adjust schedule to offset punishment that was already laid out.

I mean why punish at all if you undermine own punishment you publicly announce, it makes no sense.

What I am writing about has nothing to do with a coach’s dui, the coach could do any thing that merits an AD punishment to a coach.

It has more to do with when you give a punishment that is much less the standard in big time college sports than undermine the 1 game suspension by adding a cupcake, it’s makes a mockery of the whole ordeal. Consistency and purpose are lacking.

Also you are absolutely wrong about standard for DUI punishments in “big time sports.” Go look up DUi’s for coaches in big time hoops and see if 1 game is normal? And even if it was, how many change the schedule to offset an important game he would miss bc it doesn’t lineup well.
 
Call to attorney is warranted if you’re placed under arrest, not in the middle of a traffic stop.

Officer: License and registration, sir?
John Q: Hold on, my attorney’s admin is getting him.
To be honest, my attorney told me that if ever in that situation to do exactly as he did. Admit to nothing, agree to no evaluation. Call him. If you don’t confess or allow an evaluation you can fight it later. Once you agree to be evaluated you’re done.
 
To be honest, my attorney told me that if ever in that situation to do exactly as he did. Admit to nothing, agree to no evaluation. Call him. If you don’t confess or allow an evaluation you can fight it later. Once you agree to be evaluated you’re done.
My friend, a former ADA, told me the same thing. Never “blow” or willingly consent to an evaluation.
 
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Never said he would get fired or anything equivalent to losing a job. So I have no idea why you are giving extreme punishments here to make a case for yourself.

If you actually read what i wrote I said a few games and not adjust schedule to offset punishment that was already laid out.

I mean why punish at all if you undermine own punishment you publicly announce, it makes no sense.

What I am writing about has nothing to do with a coach’s dui, the coach could do any thing that merits an AD punishment to a coach.

It has more to do with when you give a punishment that is much less the standard in big time college sports than undermine the 1 game suspension by adding a cupcake, it’s makes a mockery of the whole ordeal. Consistency and purpose are lacking.

Also you are absolutely wrong about standard for DUI punishments in “big time sports.” Go look up DUi’s for coaches in big time hoops and see if 1 game is normal? And even if it was, how many change the schedule to offset an important game he would miss bc it doesn’t lineup well.
If Mark Few was our coach, and accomplished here what he has at Gonzaga, I think you would have no issue with his “suspension” being manipulated so he could coach against a top tier OOC foe.
 
To be honest, my attorney told me that if ever in that situation to do exactly as he did. Admit to nothing, agree to no evaluation. Call him. If you don’t confess or allow an evaluation you can fight it later. Once you agree to be evaluated you’re done.
Each state has different legislation...in NJ if the operator of a motor vehicle is suspected of a a DWI by patrol they will ask them to do a balance test put them in custody tow the vehicle and then have a breathe test at the local police station. I wouldn't refuse a breathe test in NJ
 
My friend, a former ADA, told me the same thing. Never “blow” or willingly consent to an evaluation.
This is exactly what happened when Jayson Williams shot and killed the limo driver. His attorney and agent stalled the state police for over six hours. They could never prove that he was under the influence at the time.
 
My friend, a former ADA, told me the same thing. Never “blow” or willingly consent to an evaluation.
Poor advice, that is illegal in NJ and carries some really stiff penalties, the Implied Consent Law.

 
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Poor advice, that is illegal in NJ and carries some really stiff penalties, the Implied Consent Law.

Interesting. I wonder if there is any nuance to that or practical reason why it is still better not to "blow". My friend is a NY ADA, so perhaps he was being specific to NY DUI laws, as opposed to NJ.
 
If Mark Few was our coach, and accomplished here what he has at Gonzaga, I think you would have no issue with his “suspension” being manipulated so he could coach against a top tier OOC foe.
Your thoughts on how I would react are incorrect. Sure in a vacuum I would be happy our coach wouldn’t miss a big game but overall I think it would be slimy. Smart move for best short term basketball results but for the university, coach, program it hurts its reputation overall and not worth it.

Doc his pay, say they will suspend him for a non big game (s) on schedule, limit other activities. Why set a punishment then undermine it? I do not think like you.
 
My friend, a former ADA, told me the same thing. Never “blow” or willingly consent to an evaluation.
There was a short period of time when refusal to take a breathalyzer was a shorter period of suspension in NJ. It no longer is. If you refuse, it’s an automatic conviction.

However, the DWI penalties in NJ have been relaxed thankfully. A first time offender under a .01 will not have his license suspended if he installs the ignition interlock device in his car. Bottom line is that one should never refuse to take the breathalyzer.
 
You can refuse field sobriety tests as that is considered voluntary.


In most states refusing a breathalyzer is grounds for automatic license suspension of varying lengths according to the state.


In NY, the suspension is 12 months for a first offense or 18 months if there is a conviction within the previous five years according to this article. As SPK notes this falls under the implied consent laws.

 
This is exactly what happened when Jayson Williams shot and killed the limo driver. His attorney and agent stalled the state police for over six hours. They could never prove that he was under the influence at the time.
I don’t know if this is true or not. But, that advice screwed him if true. If he just called the police as soon as it happened, he would have had a better chance of arguing that it was just a tragic accident which was his trial tactic. The facts that he covered it up was consciousness of guilt. Just because you were intoxicated doesn’t necessarily mean you are reckless. A jury can find that although you were intoxicated, but not criminally reckless.

Williams’s wife was an attorney and really interfered with his defense team. The defense had a deal for reckless manslaughter prior to trial. Which was what he ended up with. But in the interim, Williams went through an incredible amount of money.
 
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Your thoughts on how I would react are incorrect. Sure in a vacuum I would be happy our coach wouldn’t miss a big game but overall I think it would be slimy. Smart move for best short term basketball results but for the university, coach, program it hurts its reputation overall and not worth it.

Doc his pay, say they will suspend him for a non big game (s) on schedule, limit other activities. Why set a punishment then undermine it? I do not think like you.
I don't think this will hurt Gonzaga's (or Few's) reputation one bit. I don't think people will remember it a month from now, to the extent they are even thinking about it now.

It is easy for a hardcore fan to think they'll react one way when it doesn't impact their program. When it involves your team, much harder for some to be objective and consistent.
 
wait so now the board is saying we should refuse to comply? after countless incidents saying "well if they just complied..."

wonder what the difference is.
 
I don't think this will hurt Gonzaga's (or Few's) reputation one bit. I don't think people will remember it a month from now, to the extent they are even thinking about it now.

It is easy for a hardcore fan to think they'll react one way when it doesn't impact their program. When it involves your team, much harder for some to be objective and consistent.
I guess some folks here are okay with slimy tactics.

And to be clear, it’s not the DUI I’m talking about it’s the AD undermining of the punishment. I’m not a fan.

Willard got more of a punishment for Holloway’s texts to TT’s mom. Mark Few represents a catholic school with big time basketball and got arrested with a DUI. Arrested! If a player got arrested, would they miss one game to be augmented to a cupcake later on?

I guess some people like you think it’s ok but the AD’s action doesn’t sit well with me.

On a separate note, maybe you should stop talking to folks that give you bad advice like refusing breathalyzers in NJ 😜
 
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I guess some folks here are okay with slimy tactics.

And to be clear, it’s not the DUI I’m talking about it’s the AD undermining of the punishment. I’m not a fan.

Willard got more of a punishment for Holloway’s texts to TT’s mom. Mark Few represents a catholic school with big time basketball and got arrested with a DUI. Arrested! If a player got arrested, would they miss one game to be augmented to a cupcake later on?

I guess some people like you think it’s ok but the AD’s action doesn’t sit well with me.

On a separate note, maybe you should stop talking to folks that give you bad advice like refusing breathalyzers in NJ 😜
His advice may have been specific to then-existing NY law at the time, as I clarified in a prior post, since he is a former NY ADA. Thankfully I've never had to take his advice and been in a position where I've had to be evaluated for potentially driving under the influence.

On slimy tactics, were you OK with us hiring Tiny Morton and Antigua to get players? Because if you want to talk about slime and bad dudes, they are at the top of the list when it comes to college basketball. Based on the level of hypocrisy attached to your COVID-related posts -- which are frequent on LOTS -- my guess is you were perfectly fine with those hires because it made our basketball team much better, just like you are noticeably silent on the revelation that several of our players are not vaccinated yet competing this year.
 
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