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He was not worth it. He only looked good because he was surrounded by guys who could not fit in or were injured. He was easily replaced by guys who can do the same stuff. Drive to the basket to score and shoot 3's not well. They were a lot cheaper.
 
He was not worth it. He only looked good because he was surrounded by guys who could not fit in or were injured. He was easily replaced by guys who can do the same stuff. Drive to the basket to score and shoot 3's not well. They were a lot cheaper.
What are you smoking??? And we replaced Coleman with whom? Apparently a P4 school thought he was worth $1.2 million. The lengths some posters will go to advance a narrative with no supporting facts is amazing.
 
I’d feel much better about this roster if we still had Coleman. I could see some potential with Clark and him as I do think Clark will be good as one of those pesky, crafty PG’s despite his size. Not only was last year’s team not high on individual talent, but the lack of a PG torpedoed any potential to develop.

There was nobody on last year’s roster or this year’s that will have the athleticism and range of skill Coleman had, IMO. It was obvious on the floor. He was asked to do way too much out of necessity here and as only a sophomore who came off the bench his freshman year. That experience should pay dividends for Oklahoma State, IMO.

The way we lose our top players annually is absurd.
 
What are you smoking??? And we replaced Coleman with whom? Apparently a P4 school thought he was worth $1.2 million. The lengths some posters will go to advance a narrative with no supporting facts is amazing.
Coleman .295 3 point shooting stats which is NOT very good for the position he played. His overall fg % was .389 which is also not very good for the position and you want to give him over a million? He was replaced with guys who give you the same skills and cheaper.

I'm not sure his defense made up for it either.
 
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Coleman .295 3 point shooting stats which is NOT very good for the position he played. His overall fg % was .389 which is also not very good for the position and you want to give him over a million? He was replaced with guys who give you the same skills and cheaper.

I'm not sure his defense made up for it either.
And these guys you tout never played a game in the BE. Plus Coleman was only a sophomore with room to develop even more. He was the only guy on the roster opposing teams had to prepare for. And yet he was a top scorer in the BE. Imagine what he could do with a real PG and a couple shooters. He has not been adequately replaced.
 
I’d feel much better about this roster if we still had Coleman. I could see some potential with Clark and him as I do think Clark will be good as one of those pesky, crafty PG’s despite his size. Not only was last year’s team not high on individual talent, but the lack of a PG torpedoed any potential to develop.

There was nobody on last year’s roster or this year’s that will have the athleticism and range of skill Coleman had, IMO. It was obvious on the floor. He was asked to do way too much out of necessity here and as only a sophomore who came off the bench his freshman year. That experience should pay dividends for Oklahoma State, IMO.

The way we lose our top players annually is absurd.
Unfortunately,we lose them because of lack of $$.It is disheartening but apparently in this marketplace we cannot compete.
 
Coleman .295 3 point shooting stats which is NOT very good for the position he played. His overall fg % was .389 which is also not very good for the position and you want to give him over a million? He was replaced with guys who give you the same skills and cheaper.

I'm not sure his defense made up for it either.
Coleman will be a much more efficient player if OSU has some talent surrounding him. I don't know their roster but I suspect they have a competent point guard and at least one similarly talented player so Isaiah doesn't have to carry the entire load as he did here for much of the season.

They also have a coach who runs an offense so they'll probably run plays other than dribble for 25 seconds and give it to Isaiah with five on the shot clock to force a bad shot.
 
I’d feel much better about this roster if we still had Coleman. I could see some potential with Clark and him as I do think Clark will be good as one of those pesky, crafty PG’s despite his size. Not only was last year’s team not high on individual talent, but the lack of a PG torpedoed any potential to develop.

There was nobody on last year’s roster or this year’s that will have the athleticism and range of skill Coleman had, IMO. It was obvious on the floor. He was asked to do way too much out of necessity here and as only a sophomore who came off the bench his freshman year. That experience should pay dividends for Oklahoma State, IMO.

The way we lose our top players annually is absurd.
i have no clue. with coleman we lose 1.5 mill and part of the current roster, players i have no clue how good they are are what they cost us. starting over is fine with me. i almost think i will miss middleton more. at least his best skill, defending in pressure, was very good and a big part of our game.

i liked IC but his play drove me nuts. that could be cause he was uninspired pkaying on a bad team, cause teams paid more attn to him. and fwiw, i get tge feelibg he wasnt staying if we wanted him too.
 
i have no clue. with coleman we lose 1.5 mill and part of the current roster, players i have no clue how good they are are what they cost us. starting over is fine with me. i almost think i will miss middleton more. at least his best skill, defending in pressure, was very good and a big part of our game.

i liked IC but his play drove me nuts. that could be cause he was uninspired pkaying on a bad team, cause teams paid more attn to him. and fwiw, i get tge feelibg he wasnt staying if we wanted him too.
Coleman said the right thing at season's end, but they all do, which is why we should never put much stock into what most any of these kids say to the media.

When he was on his "best streak" during the season, I thought the comparisons starting getting a little wild per usual, and I think you bring up a fair point that there was some "Ricky Davis effect" to the numbers (big stats guy on a bad team).

To be fair though, we no doubt asked him to do so much, too much, offensively. He had to create for himself all the time and had the absolute green light it seemed, because we didn't have much choice.

Clearly he was our best player and the guy most of us wanted to keep, even if we had to overpay. One, because would there be a better alternative (and I haven't seen it). Two, because he was an actual "home grown" player. In the portal, seems prioritize locking up from their best from their existing roster first unless there is an issue with the kid, a risk he might turn pro after going through the process and leave you shorthanded, or the $$$ are so exorbitant the staff deems he isn't worth it.

I think Coleman was probably a combination of various factors. He may not have wanted to be here unless we blew him out of the water, and we (i.e., Sha) perhaps didn't think he was worth the cost. With all these kids we've brought in the door, it does seem we could have signed Clark, Coleman at his "ask" (if he wanted to be here), Godswill, and a number of other spare parts/possible rotation guys we already have in the door.
 
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Yes, SHU could have definitely used him.

BUT…. People should pump the breaks on just how good he was. He was a player that every Big East team should have on its roster, but really nothing more than that.
He was a solid player asked to do more than he was capable of, just as much of last year's roster was. He's a good secondary option on a high-level team. He had to me the main guy here, especially once Jenkins went down.

He's still the best or second-best player on next year's team.

i have no clue. with coleman we lose 1.5 mill and part of the current roster, players i have no clue how good they are are what they cost us. starting over is fine with me. i almost think i will miss middleton more. at least his best skill, defending in pressure, was very good and a big part of our game.

i liked IC but his play drove me nuts. that could be cause he was uninspired pkaying on a bad team, cause teams paid more attn to him. and fwiw, i get tge feelibg he wasnt staying if we wanted him too.
I'd agree he probably wasn't staying unless we overpaid him to the point of it being uncomfortable for us -- and that's if you think we had the resources to do so and still put a competitive team around him.

I'd be surprised if his ask (and market) wasn't significantly higher than Shaheen's valuation of him.
 
He was not worth it. He only looked good because he was surrounded by guys who could not fit in or were injured. He was easily replaced by guys who can do the same stuff. Drive to the basket to score and shoot 3's not well. They were a lot cheaper.
Imagine how much better hed be if he wasnt the defenses focus? Now we have a bunch of scrubs
 
Imagine how much better hed be if he wasnt the defenses focus? Now we have a bunch of scrubs
I don’t think that made much of a difference, and also not sure if opposing teams focused on him that much beyond anything normal. Do you think scouting reports said “Don’t let Coleman beat you?” I don’t.
 
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I would have loved to have him around as his career evolved, especially as a senior. I could see him having a Rhoden-like trajectory. But he wasn’t there yet, and unfortunately, it’s impossible to value the future with the current state of college sports.
 
I would have loved to have him around as his career evolved, especially as a senior. I could see him having a Rhoden-like trajectory. But he wasn’t there yet, and unfortunately, it’s impossible to value the future with the current state of college sports.
I was just saying that I think last season coaches had scouting reports for us that said don't let Coleman beat you.
 
I don’t think that made much of a difference, and also not sure if opposing teams focused on him that much beyond anything normal. Do you think scouting reports said “Don’t let Coleman beat you?” I don’t.
I do.

I mean nobody is confusing Coleman with Jordan or Kobe but relative to his teammates, he's the player you put your defensive focus on.

That was more true over the last six weeks after Jenkins was hurt. Coleman and Jenkins were the only players who averaged 10 ppg for the season. Admittedly we weren't an offensive juggernaut but he was clearly the top option.
 
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