https://www.axios.com/2022/07/08/news-republicans-democrats-trust-partisanship
If you are in the MSM, how do you feel about this and how do you respond?
If you are in the MSM, how do you feel about this and how do you respond?
MSM trust plummeting
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I trust the MSM a hell of a lot more than I trust any politician or alternative media source I.e., the Newsmax’s of the world.
Sure, the MSM gets the story wrong every once in a while but, they are not outright lying on a daily basis like the aforementioned parties above.
But the MSM is the mouthpiece for the very politicians/parties you have rightly called out.
I don’t think lies on both sides are the whole story.Reluctance of MSM to cover border crises,Joe involment in Hunter business etc.Not covering stories is a powerful tool to advance you agenda.If Fox goes out of business there will be only one side of certain stories as Obama said if there wasn’t a Fox News everything would be ok.
They won't be critical of all violent crimes and they won't touch inflation with harsh criticism.
The most striking thing to me in that survey is that independent voters trust in the MSM has plummeted. We know parties skew one way or another, but when the average-Joe has lost trust in news sources, that should tell you something.
The MSM is (and has been for quite some time) completely biased. Still free but not remotely close to independent.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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The article shows the clear disparity between parties. The peabrained people still in the Trump cult are a lost cause as Trump poisoned them against believing anything from the MSM media. Like SoOrange84 said Ill take my chances with listening to various sources in the MSM and verify what they say with research versus giving any thought to the "news" sources the right is touting these days.
Like I said, the most important stat in that survey is Independents. That runs counter to your theory.
Both MSM and Fox / NewsMax / One America News tilt their coverage to the agendas / narratives that are framed by their political leanings. There are two big differences as I see it. The MSM still claims to be unbiased and their blatant dismissal of newsworthy items that do not meet the aganda / narrative of the left. Even Bill Maher ... that liberal icon .... lambastes the liberal media for its total whitewash of the Hunter Biden laptop. Here's a quote from Maher which was cited in Maureen Callahan's piece in the Post today: (Draw your own conclusions from the article which is about more than the laptop.) https://nypost.com/2022/07/08/portr...l-as-the-kennedys-and-protected-by-the-press/
"Even Bill Maher took umbrage earlier this year, excoriating left-leaning outlets for ignoring the Hunter Biden laptop story as the 2020 election neared. (By the way, Hunter has lost or abandoned three computers, including one reportedly recovered from celebrity therapist Keith Ablow’s office)
"It looks like the left-wing media has buried the story because it wasn’t part of their narrative,” Maher said on his weekly HBO show. “Hunter Biden . . . you’ve made a living being a ne’er-do-well who was taking money just because you were the vice president’s son, and you had influence. He has $8 million dollars from Chinese energy companies to” — air quotes here — “’sit on the board’ and consult. Yeah, that was his passion in life — energy exploration. Hooker exploration was his passion.” "
It's this type of willful neglect and lack of even the slightest hint of journalistic curiousity on the part of the MSM that is causing their approval ratings to continue to dip. Throw in their total support for the left's so far failed attempt to take Trump down for the past 6 years, regardless of the facts..... and you have an empty shell of what was once known as the proud 'Free Press".
Fox and other right leaning outlets all have their issues.... but none are as bad and as obvious as the so called MSM. I've often wondered how it is that when something breaks that is negative to the right.... that all...A...L...L of them use the exact same terminology to descibe it..... mouthing the same words that their handlers have fed them. I wonder who controls that. These are supposedy independent outlets. Isn't it strange that they do their reporting with the same fake sense of moral outrage and certitude. It's something we all should be concerned about unless you favor the Pravda.... state sponsored method..... of reporting the news.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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From your own article-
"By the numbers: The trust fall in the news media been driven mostly by Republicans, according to the data."
"The media trust gap between Democrats and Republicans began to widen during the the Bush and Obama administrations, but grew dramatically during the Trump era and has continued to widen."
On their graph Republicans have 10% trust. Independents are 3.5x higher at 36%.
Again, Republicans are driving the huge decrease in trust and it was driven BIGly by Trump in Axios words.
But you continue to ignore what the article says about Independents.
"Independents' views are generally closer to Republicans'"
From 58% down to 36%...that's a huge drop.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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Generally closer, ok, they're still 3.6x times higher to trust the media than Republicans who are at a measly 10%. You're ignoring where it literally says in your article that "the gap widened under the trump era" to nitpick.
Independents 58% to 36% over 22 years.
Republicans 35% to 10% in 5 years lol.
I know you can do math to figure how what the bigger decrease is....
Do you know how to read a graph or do you want to cherry pick to make your point? I guess I need to keep repeating myself. The decline in trust amongst Independents followed that of Republicans over 20+ years. The 3.6x now is meaningless. It’s the decline in trust over time. The survey clearly shows that AND THE AUTHOR POINTS THAT OUT.
Well the gap widened during the Trump era because the MSM so blatantly misrepresented the truth during the Trump era..... the MSM WERE biased and it was so reflected in the polls....
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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Since you're too obtuse to understand percentages I will lay it out for you.
58% to 36% is a 38% decrease over 22 years.
35% to 10% is a 72% decrease over 5 years.
One is a gradual decline while the other fell off a cliff.
And oh by the way the 36% for independents is basically unchanged since 2010.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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Except Independents trust in the media is higher than when Trump started, as well as Democrats. SO maybe the Trump cult is the only one that believes people were actually biased against Trump.
Well that would make sense to what pirate pride said. Now that the MSM is not as blatantly misrepresenting the truth. independents trust has gone up because of that. I'm also curious how the total number of independents in the country has changed over time. It's also possible some independents who stopped trusting the media, had enough of far left politics now identify as republicans skewing the percentages.
Did you get the rent check from Trump? How much do yu charge him for living in your head?
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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Lol. The original poster article from Axios mentioned Trump as a driving factor. Thanks for playing though.
cernjSHU and kniespolice have an unhealthy obsession with all things Trump. Very strange. Hey, to each their own.
Things like not starting a war in 4 years and letting North Korea know who's boss would have been celebrated for any other president. Unfortunately there are some who have an unhealthy hatred (ironically they have a sign on their front lawn that says hate has no place here) for the man which will never allow people to come together and just be Americans. I hope he doesn't run, but I hope someone else replicates the things he got right.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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Lol. The article your boy shared mentioned trump, read for yourself before throwing stones. The thread is about MSM distrust, try to keep up.
I’m confused how exactly did he put North Korea in its place?
I will admit Trump did some good in office but, he has done more to divide this country than any President in the last 50 years.
Sorry, I choose to agree with the authors conclusion. A 38% decrease is gradual? Did you pass math?
I'm sorry didn't Obama warn him they were our biggest threat. Did the threats of a nuclear missile go on for 4 years? No. Which part of our country got hit with a missile? Or was Obama lying to him? Either you think North Korea stopped because we gave them something like a $400 million cash payment, which the media would've feasted on, or the crap show stopped because we made him stop. Now if his words about Kim Jung Un to the public upsets you, tell me what would happen if Bobby G had a close door meeting with Fred Hill to create peace and one went on Twitter right after blasting the other. I don't think you would keep the peace. That's just common sense.
As I said there are plenty of people who hate the man so peace in this country will never come out of him running. I hope he doesn't run. Still cracks me up all the people who have signs place has no hate here on there front lawns, are filled with hate for that guy.
Barack Obama Warns Donald Trump on North Korea Threat
The Obama administration sees North Korea as the top national-security priority for President-elect Donald Trump and has conveyed that view to his transition team.
www.wsj.com
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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Where i learned math a 38% change in 22 years is less alarming than 72% in 5 years, but to each their own.
Why do you keep choosing different time periods? You don’t know anything about trends or statistics either. The author says you’re wrong.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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Haha, the author says I am wrong about what? I used the direct quotes from yout article. Yikes.
What time period do you want to compare? Since 2015? Since 2000? Anyway you slice it the data shows the decrease in trust is far greater among Republicans than Independents both long term and short term.
I already posted the quote from the author. You can add reading comprehension to another one of your weaknesses.
it’s over Johnny.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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BAHHAHA you posted one quote while selectively ignoring the rest.
The classic "reading comprehension" line from our resident CEO ballwasher. These are also quotes from the article.
"By the numbers: The trust fall in the news media been driven mostly by Republicans, according to the data."
"The media trust gap between Democrats and Republicans began to widen during the the Bush and Obama administrations, but grew dramatically during the Trump era and has continued to widen."
Have a great night.
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Lol…my original point was about INDEPENDENTS!! I wasn’t opining on Dems or Reps. Strike two in your reading comprehension. Sleep tight.
Not surprised that you are confused.
Biden in his first week in office did more to divide us than Trump ever did.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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The only one with comprehension issues is you. You took exception to my original comment which I have put in quotes below, somehow telling me my "theory" was wrong when Axios stats show a clear disparity between Dem & Rep parties trust. Then you argued like a fool. Simply put, stick to making up interactions with CEOs.
"The article shows the clear disparity between parties. The peabrained people still in the Trump cult are a lost cause as Trump poisoned them against believing anything from the MSM media. Like SoOrange84 said Ill take my chances with listening to various sources in the MSM and verify what they say with research versus giving any thought to the "news" sources the right is touting these days"
Are you trying to say MSM doesn’t lean democrat views/anti Republican bias? I think most people being honest would admit that, Just like Fox News/Newsmax etc have a clear anti democratic bias,
While I was never a fan of Trump and he deserved a lot of what he got from media, the media never gave him a chance from the beginning, started long before he actually became President.
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anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0
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No, where did I say that? I simply was citing lines from the article he shared about the decline in trust of the MSM media between parties.
Of course the media leans liberal, but Ill take professional journalists over whatever Newsmax is.
