New US News Rankings
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NO! Falling 10 spots in a year is embarrassing! When do we go from being “happy” about being in the top third to top half to three quarters to not last!? Quit lowering the bar! Why are we so afraid of success!?
Perspective. The quality of our students are improving each year and the school is receiving record applications each year. If this trend continues we will be fine and rankings will follow.
fwiw every school is recieving record applications since covid. its a bit of a technicality.
This. There seems to be a certain amount of distain in academia for the US news and world report ranking, probably not undeserved. Administrations indicate that they’re not going to do the things they need to do the game the system in order to get an improved result in what they consider today an invalid ranking. But here’s the thing, for all its flaws US news and world report is probably the resource of choice for 99.9% of parents looking to quickly evaluate an institution. Schools look down their nose at it at their own peril.
A prior president at the University of Connecticut deliberately game the system and our ranking jumped dramatically. Currently, the thought process is “not to play the game“ and our ranking is plummeting. That’s just dumb from a marketing perspective, in my opinion. It sounds like Seton Hall has taken the same “principled position“ and thus its ranking is dropping as well.
It’s all BS, but it’s BS that probably impacts the University.
AAU should band together and condemn this pop culture ritual for what it is, just another superficial marketing scheme. How much time is wasted by university leadership trying to win this empty game?
That would be a little bit ironic because in many ways AAU is a marketing scheme as well based upon federal grant numbers. The better classification for research institutions is Carnegie R1 status.
I wish these rankings were available when I was a student. Instead I picked Seton Hall because my mother’s family lived in Vailsburg. The rankings are not very precise after reaching 100 schools. There were 10 schools ranked 127 where we were last year and 14 schools ranked 137 where we are this year. And probably the most important part of the ranking is how our peers perceive us (academic reputation) which is also subjective. Perhaps one of the trove writers can interview Dr McCloud who gives us the emails touting our students every year. Why doesn’t better students make for better rankings. It must be money. We can’t afford to discount our tuition enough to get even better students so students are going to public schools in bigger numbers. Things could get worse. Students aren’t going to college because it’s too expensive. The University of Portland, a good school, had 21 percent of its students who sent in deposits not show up. And Catholic high schools are dropping like flies. Hopefully SHU leadership can survive all this and many other problems and the school thrive in the future.
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