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[walshtrips]

It’s so much more than this, your point one is an excuse to allow for mediocre leaders.

You need money to build chemistry

The third point is similar to excuse one

How come we can’t point out shortcomings without being told that we are the problem, I see a ton of negativity in your post because it pushes the woe is us mentality

My mentality is based in reality and couldn't be further from a "woe is us" mentality. I see obstacles, acknowledge them, and figure out a way to overcome them.

We don't have billionaires who are throwing cash at us, so what? We need to build the program from the ground up, and it's a work in progress. SHU has always been a blue collar team and that's the attraction for many fans.

I'm not making excuses for anything that has taken place thus far, but it does no good to dwell on the past. It's the future of our program that matters and I hope that most feel that it's important enough to support.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

I spoke to Mike McBride yesterday and asked him to send me a brief summary. Info that will be detailed in less than 3 weeks at the Beefsteak.

Here's his message....

From Mike....


Dan,

great speaking with you this morning and thanks again for all the hard work that goes into running Pirate Crew. As mentioned on the call, we are in daily contact with alumni, donors, and supporters of our NIL programming. The spirit and feedback in those conversations have been very positive. We have been and will continue to be focused on delivering the year’s largest NIL fundraiser, the Hall Ball Beefsteak Tipoff Dinner, and successfully closing out the Match Campaign. There has been a ton of activity mapping our NIL strategy with Hall Ball and Hall Hands on Deck and there will be many opportunities for everyone to participate in supporting NIL.

Please be patient and understand all will be revealed in three weeks.

We’re now into year three of being patient on the NIL front while others are into year three of kicking our asses on the NIL front. The practice facility is going to look like warp speed in comparison.

Sorry but I’m sick of the hurry up and wait method of doing things that Seton Hall has embraced. I want progress, I want results. I want people in place who have a clue what they are doing and want to be leaders and not followers!

 

[SPK145]

Thankfully Seton Hall has a guy like Mike Walsh but my responses to this Seton Hall tinted post are below in red:

- Seton Hall has always operated at a financial disadvantage to other universities and has managed to be very competitive.

Pretty much true for men's basketball but really little else.

- Everyone is underestimating the chemistry problems that will happen for teams where money is the main motivator. Nova and SJU can have the blue chip that demands $300K and doesn't care about the university or his teammates. Sha will do fine with hardworking, physical and athletic players who'll take $100K - $150K.

IF that's an issue for programs with $300K players, it will certainly be an issue with programs with $100 - $150K players as well. Some programs may have issues, some may not.

- SJU has a sugar daddy and will most likely always have more money. Many schools have done a great job out of the gate, but won't be able to lean on the same generous donors year in and year out. They'll shoot their load in year one and find that the money isn't flowing as easily.

But Seton Hall will be able to lean of the same donors year in and year out? Makes no sense.

It will be difficult to compete in this new dynamic for a Seton Hall. Need to do what it can with what it has. A Seton Hall will need to discover hidden gems, coach them up, and retain them. I think Sha can probably do it.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

I mean its a high bar that he set lol. But, Nova isnt going to be left in the dust. Hoops is too important to the school and community and leaders will do everything they can to ensure the best people and structure is in place to be a successful program.

I wish Seton Hall would embrace this way of thinking! But hey, let’s all be patient instead!

 

[SPK145]

The two best teams in MLB are Atlanta and Baltimore. Atlanta spends 60% and 74% of what the Mets and Yankees spend. Baltimore spends 20% and 25% of what the Mets and Yanks spend.

That's an interesting dichotomy this year but almost all other years it's the big money teams that win more.

And Atlanta this year has the 10th largest payroll.

 

[dehere23]

Thankfully Seton Hall has a guy like Mike Walsh but my responses to this Seton Hall tinted post are below in red:

- Seton Hall has always operated at a financial disadvantage to other universities and has managed to be very competitive.

Pretty much true for men's basketball but really little else.

- Everyone is underestimating the chemistry problems that will happen for teams where money is the main motivator. Nova and SJU can have the blue chip that demands $300K and doesn't care about the university or his teammates. Sha will do fine with hardworking, physical and athletic players who'll take $100K - $150K.

IF that's an issue for programs with $300K players, it will certainly be an issue with programs with $100 - $150K players as well. Some programs may have issues, some may not.

- SJU has a sugar daddy and will most likely always have more money. Many schools have done a great job out of the gate, but won't be able to lean on the same generous donors year in and year out. They'll shoot their load in year one and find that the money isn't flowing as easily.

But Seton Hall will be able to lean of the same donors year in and year out? Makes no sense.

It will be difficult to compete in this new dynamic for a Seton Hall. Need to do what it can with what it has. A Seton Hall will need to discover hidden gems, coach them up, and retain them. I think Sha can probably do it.

I really don’t understand Walsh’s point about having too many talented and sought after players. Blue bloods have been dealing with rosters full of these kids for years. Sure chemistry can be an issue, but year in and year out every program wants as many talented players as possible by and large. Did we have chemistry issues in 19-20 when we went 10 deep? Nova is going to have chemistry problems because they are too talented, yet they won 2 titles with talented blue chip kids (not all, but some)? That sounds like an excuse to give Sha and the recruiting a pass.

We wanted Hodge, but he goes to Nova. So now he isn’t going to care about his teammates or university because he didn’t choose Seton Hall? We wanted Wilcher and Glover. But now both are “bad” kids to bring on a team because they went to SJU instead of Seton Hall?

 

[U-Hall]

That's an interesting dichotomy this year but almost all other years it's the big money teams that win more.

And Atlanta this year has the 10th largest payroll.

If it was only money in college sports that dictated champions, you would think Oregon and Oklahoma State would be #1 every year.

I'm sure that Kentucky is not hurting for money either. But they lost to St Peter's in the 1st round.

Holloway took a team with basically no resources to the elite 8.

Money is part of the equation but not everything.

 

[TheHall87]

The MLB teams with the 3 highest salaries will be watching the playoffs from their comfy couches this season.

The two best teams in MLB are Atlanta and Baltimore. Atlanta spends 60% and 74% of what the Mets and Yankees spend. Baltimore spends 20% and 25% of what the Mets and Yanks spend.

I think some context is needed here.

Atlanta has taken some calculated risk with many of their very talented young players and signed them to contracts that are financially team friendly -- in some cases absurdly so. In essence they have gambled that their top players will develop as projected and in exchange for financial security for the player have guaranteed below market (though still substantial) salaries for the long-term.

Atlanta is also one of the few pro sports franchises owned by a publicly traded company (Liberty Media) and generally uses that as a reason to try to keep the player payroll down. They might get pushback from shareholders over an excessive expense.

In Baltimore's case, years of poor results on the field have yielded a bumper crop of very talented prospects. Since younger players (in terms of service time) make far less in salaries than veterans, their payroll is very low.

Of the 28 players on the Orioles' current active roster 15 are considered pre-arbitration (fewer than three years of MLB service time). There are four other players on the injured list, three of those are pre-arbitration. Because of that they are typically forced to accept whatever salary the team wants to pay -- usually at or just above the MLB minimum.

All 18 of those players are making between $720,000 and $740,000 in a sport where the average player salary is around $5 million.

 

[ceballoj]

If it was only money in college sports that dictated champions, you would think Oregon and Oklahoma State would be #1 every year.

I'm sure that Kentucky is not hurting for money either. But they lost to St Peter's in the 1st round.

Holloway took a team with basically no resources to the elite 8.

Money is part of the equation but not everything.

Yeah but the no sit out transfer + NIL makes money even more important unfortunately..