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NJ’s big time college FB team

Is perhaps not quite the juggernaut that Politi predicted. And keep in mind no bigger booster for rehiring Schiano than Politi who advocated “give him whatever he wants” to Hobbs.

Schiano was given a big contract and whatever he wanted at ru. The hire was a big mistake but nobody else really wanted the job . His resume is average at best . Failure in the NFL, at ru one big win against Louisville his first time around and some second rate bowl games. Now they are stuck with him. Eating his big state contract should not happen.RU Rah, Rah !! Hahahaha !!!!!!!!!!
 
Who cares about football, I'm worried about their basketball team. Most of their guys did the tunnel 2 towers 5K run a couple weeks ago in NYC. To be honest they're a bunch of very nice young men talking and greeting a lot of random people. They're young, but they're big. Going to be a good test for us for sure.
 
Who cares about football, I'm worried about their basketball team. Most of their guys did the tunnel 2 towers 5K run a couple weeks ago in NYC. To be honest they're a bunch of very nice young men talking and greeting a lot of random people. They're young, but they're big. Going to be a good test for us for sure.
Big issue is can the Coach manage them. Or will they be kids with pocketful of $$ looking to the next stage.
 
Big issue is can the Coach manage them. Or will they be kids with pocketful of $$ looking to the next stage.
That's being a Seton Hall fan and reliving 2000-2001 all over again. But since then we've seen a lot of teams get really good seeds and/or make good runs in March with freshmen going to the next level. Yeah there's the occassional year it blows up in a teams face but overall I'd bet that's not even happening 2 times out of 10 when a program gets 2 McDAA's. I think the bigger question will be their physical strength. In the world of transfers everywhere you can have a team of 18 year olds going up against a team of 23-24 year olds.
 
Schiano was given a big contract and whatever he wanted at ru. The hire was a big mistake but nobody else really wanted the job . His resume is average at best . Failure in the NFL, at ru one big win against Louisville his first time around and some second rate bowl games. Now they are stuck with him. Eating his big state contract should not happen.RU Rah, Rah !! Hahahaha !!!!!!!!!!
The “coach” no one wanted and the “team” no one wanted to coach!
 
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Schiano will some day be the biggest state of NJ Pensioner regardless of what he ends up achieving at Rutgers.
If I remember correctly, even if they counted his original hire, he began his time at Rutgers after state university employees stopped being eligible for PERS, the public employees' retirement system. I think the cutoff was anyone hired after 6/30/00, and he was hired that December.

So at least there's that.

He will probably wind up being a big buyout for the next AD at some point, however.
 
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If I remember correctly, even if they counted his original hire, he began his time at Rutgers after state university employees stopped being eligible for PERS, the public employees' retirement system. I think the cutoff was anyone hired after 6/30/00, and he was hired that December.

So at least there's that.

He will probably wind up being a big buyout for the next AD at some point, however.
Honestly they will never get big time FB right.
 
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If I remember correctly, even if they counted his original hire, he began his time at Rutgers after state university employees stopped being eligible for PERS, the public employees' retirement system. I think the cutoff was anyone hired after 6/30/00, and he was hired that December.

So at least there's that.

He will probably wind up being a big buyout for the next AD at some point, however.

I don't see him ever getting canned. So long as he is putting together .500 or better teams and going to bowls there will never be any strong groundswell against him, and no President or AD is going to want to waste political capital to force him out. For example IIRC Pat Hobbs wanted someone else as HC instead of Schiano 2.0 and he lost that battle.
 
I don't see him ever getting canned. So long as he is putting together .500 or better teams and going to bowls there will never be any strong groundswell against him, and no President or AD is going to want to waste political capital to force him out. For example IIRC Pat Hobbs wanted someone else as HC instead of Schiano 2.0 and he lost that battle.
As long as the fanbase remains trapped in their Stockholm Syndrome mindset of "He's the best we can do; who else could we get?," he probably will work on his own terms. That was silly in 2019 and it's being exposed now, though, so can he maintain the illusion forever? As the "superleague" begins to take shape over the next decade, they're going to get pretty antsy about (totally justifiable) fears of being left behind if they can't establish some national football brand soon. The clock is ticking.

The Big Ten giftwrapped Rutgers a nine-win season this year, with no Ohio State, Michigan (who isn't very good, as it turns out), or Penn State on the schedule, and they don't seem poised to take advantage of it. With the foundations of the game in flux, the stakes are much higher than they were for them 15 years ago, and years and years of data show that Schiano is what he is: terrific at making a bottom-feeder respectable, but not very capable of making a respectable team very good. That very good and talented 2006 team can only be seen as an outlier, and beginning that next week, Schiano was just 17-21 in the rest of his Big East conference games before he left for the Bucs.

They are a Big Ten football program in a talent-rich state. There is an actual infrastructure there and plenty of advantages. It's not 1999 anymore. Are they Ohio State in terms of resources? No. But they're a very attractive situation for a coach who wants to lead a Big Ten program, but the base (and many within the university) are in some hopelessly devoted thrall to that middler.
 
As long as the fanbase remains trapped in their Stockholm Syndrome mindset of "He's the best we can do; who else could we get?," he probably will work on his own terms. That was silly in 2019 and it's being exposed now, though, so can he maintain the illusion forever? As the "superleague" begins to take shape over the next decade, they're going to get pretty antsy about (totally justifiable) fears of being left behind if they can't establish some national football brand soon. The clock is ticking.

The Big Ten giftwrapped Rutgers a nine-win season this year, with no Ohio State, Michigan (who isn't very good, as it turns out), or Penn State on the schedule, and they don't seem poised to take advantage of it. With the foundations of the game in flux, the stakes are much higher than they were for them 15 years ago, and years and years of data show that Schiano is what he is: terrific at making a bottom-feeder respectable, but not very capable of making a respectable team very good. That very good and talented 2006 team can only be seen as an outlier, and beginning that next week, Schiano was just 17-21 in the rest of his Big East conference games before he left for the Bucs.

They are a Big Ten football program in a talent-rich state. There is an actual infrastructure there and plenty of advantages. It's not 1999 anymore. Are they Ohio State in terms of resources? No. But they're a very attractive situation for a coach who wants to lead a Big Ten program, but the base (and many within the university) are in some hopelessly devoted thrall to that middler.

I agree with the above. I think it's obvious by now to anyone that Schiano has a ceiling at what he can accomplish at Rutgers. It's not taking away from what he accomplished there to acknowledge that reality. I think he was the right choice in 2019 given where they were and given the other options given where they were as a program, but if they think they can pay up for a top-tier coach from the ACC or Big 12 or somewhere else to go there and try to elevate that program then they should.

I wonder if Stephen Belichick continues his rise if he would be a candidate someday. That would be interesting lol..
 
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