No bail for Canisius men's basketball recruit Sarion McGee, who is facing 15 gun charges

[Halldan1]

No bail for Canisius recruit facing 15 gun charges

Sarion McGee, a 23-year-old Canisius basketball recruit, has been denied bail as he faces 15 weapons-related charges.

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Associated Press

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Canisius College basketball recruit Sarion McGee was denied bail on Friday, five days after campus police arrested him for having two handguns, a shotgun and numerous high-capacity magazines outside the school's indoor athletic complex.

Questioning why McGee needed "three guns and hundreds of bullets to go play basketball," Buffalo city court judge Andrew LoTempio declined to grant bail, saying that decision should be left with a state Supreme Court judge. McGee's lawyer, Michael Seibert, said he plans to have a bail hearing scheduled for Tuesday.

The 23-year-old McGee was arrested on Sunday, a day after arriving in Buffalo, and faces 15 weapons-related charges, with a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison.

McGee's arrest comes in the wake of numerous mass shootings around the country, including one in Buffalo, where an 18-year-old white man is alleged to have killed 10 Black people in a supermarket last month. That shooting took place a little over a mile from the Canisius campus.

A campus police officer was checking cars parked illegally in the Canisius athletics lot when he saw a high-capacity .22-caliber magazine in the passenger seat of what was determined to be McGee's car, according to court documents. Soon after, McGee left the facility and upon approaching his car asked, "What did I do?"

He told officers he was carrying two loaded handguns and additional magazines in his fanny pack, according to the documents. Police eventually found more loaded magazines stored in his glove box, and a 12-gauge shotgun in the trunk of the car.

Seibert told the judge the guns and ammunition were purchased legally in Wisconsin and Illinois. He said McGee had just arrived in Buffalo and had all of his possessions in his car because he had not yet found a place to live.

LoTempio referred to McGee's stash of weapons and ammunition as "an arsenal." Noting how gun-related issues are being debated across the country, he questioned how anyone could be unaware that each state has different gun laws, with New York's being among the most strict.

Seibert said McGee bought the guns for protection because he previously grew up and lived in dangerous neighborhoods, while also noting Canisius' proximity to the recent supermarket shooting.


"I disagree with what the judge said when he said he sees no reasons for someone to carry a weapon," Seibert said after the hearing. "If you're going to be staying two to three blocks away from where that mass shooting took place, I would want to protect myself, too."

McGee was handcuffed and dressed in an orange prison jumpsuit while attending the hearing, and broke down in tears at one point. Upon leaving the courtroom, he turned to his mother in the gallery and said, "I love you."

McGee is from Milwaukee. He was transferring to Canisius of the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference after spending last year at Logan Community College in Illinois. The 6-foot-8 player spent the 2020-21 season at Grambling State, where he started 15 games and majored in criminal justice.

Other than saying McGee was being recruited to play at Canisius, the school declined to comment.

 

[PirateFan94]

New York is an absolute joke. He legally owns the gun there should be no issue.

 

[JRSlim2284]

The red flag is high capacity magazines. There's a lot of red tape even prior to recent events, if you remember the case with Raymond Felton

.

That said, you would want to treat anyone with multiple weapons treated as dangerous when not in their native neighborhood. You can read that 2 different ways to get opposite feelings. I do feel the way things are playing out, it's a bit excessive, especially if he's cooperative and nothing on his record prior.

Addendum, whatever the school decides to do, I will not comment as the school president is literally top 5 people I've met that I have absolute respect for so I trust his judgment.

 

[cernjSHU]

New York is an absolute joke. He legally owns the gun there should be no issue.

He can own them legally. You can have those weapons at your home. You can’t carry handguns on your person in public or have a shotgun on the passenger side seat of your car. I don’t know the intricacies of the gun laws of NY state gun laws. But, ownership has nothing to do with where and how is possessions these weapons. That’s what makes it unlawful.

 

[STLPirate12]

It sounds like it could very well have just been a case of him not understanding the difference in gun laws between the two states, but law enforcement certainly needs to act with caution here. Bottom line is as a gun owner, it's your responsibility to know and understand the laws and restrictions where you're bringing your gun and to follow them.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

The way the article was written really made me think. We don’t know the neighborhoods and circumstances some of these kids grew up with. Was this just a way of life and what this kid felt he needed to have to keep his family safe? Not every town is safe and for some of these kids basketball (or other athletic or academic scholarships) is the only way out. That said, they need to make it out and may not realize that the rest of the world does not operate the way their part of the world does.

All of that said, I could see maybe having a handgun but not a stash of guns. Of course if they were all legally purchased and this guy hasn’t had and legal issues then that has to also be taken into consideration. He was apparently looking for a place to live. Does anyone know his previous housing situation? If he was otherwise homeless that may be an explanation as to why he had the guns with him, he had nowhere else to leave them.

Like I said earlier, I could see maybe having one gun but I also have not lived or had the same experiences that this young man had and those circumstances should be taken into consideration. I hope it all works out for him and that he was not planning anything sinister.

 

[SHUMatt]

The way the article was written really made me think. We don’t know the neighborhoods and circumstances some of these kids grew up with. Was this just a way of life and what this kid felt he needed to have to keep his family safe? Not every town is safe and for some of these kids basketball (or other athletic or academic scholarships) is the only way out. That said, they need to make it out and may not realize that the rest of the world does not operate the way their part of the world does.

All of that said, I could see maybe having a handgun but not a stash of guns. Of course if they were all legally purchased and this guy hasn’t had and legal issues then that has to also be taken into consideration. He was apparently looking for a place to live. Does anyone know his previous housing situation? If he was otherwise homeless that may be an explanation as to why he had the guns with him, he had nowhere else to leave them.

Like I said earlier, I could see maybe having one gun but I also have not lived or had the same experiences that this young man had and those circumstances should be taken into consideration. I hope it all works out for him and that he was not planning anything sinister.

If the kid was homeless or came from a bad neighborhood as you allude to, where is he getting money for these guns? Let’s stop making victims out of criminals. The law is very specific on how to transport guns. He did not follow the law and now he has to answer for his crimes. Don’t you see the news? Every day there have been shootings. Irresponsible gun ownership Leeds to some of these shootings.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

If the kid was homeless or came from a bad neighborhood as you allude to, where is he getting money for these guns? Let’s stop making victims out of criminals. The law is very specific on how to transport guns. He did not follow the law and now he has to answer for his crimes. Don’t you see the news? Every day there have been shootings. Irresponsible gun ownership Leeds to some of these shootings.

I get all of that. Ignorance of the law is no excuse for not obeying the law. How the hell do I know where he got the money for the guns? None of my damn business quite honestly. My main point was that we don’t all grow up under the same circumstances. Some kids are on their own to figure out life from the time they are born whereas others don’t know what it’s like to want for anything in their lives. Some kids are tucked into bed with a full belly by loving parents. Other kids are tucked into bed by loving parents in a homeless shelter with a grumbling stomach wondering where their next meal is coming from. This goes for any student, not just student athletes. You don’t hear about the other students though because people aren’t as interested in their lives as they are in the lives of student athletes.

Let’s just let all of the facts come out before we judge this young man.

 

[PirateFan94]

He can own them legally. You can have those weapons at your home. You can’t carry handguns on your person in public or have a shotgun on the passenger side seat of your car. I don’t know the intricacies of the gun laws of NY state gun laws. But, ownership has nothing to do with where and how is possessions these weapons. That’s what makes it unlawful.

Shotgun was in the trunk. We need a universal federal carry license. There is no reason a person who has gone through proper background check to obtain a concealed carry license shouldn’t have it be valid across the country. This is an example of gun laws punishing the law abiding. A criminal don’t care about gun laws. As a citizen of Wisconsin he probably wasn’t aware of NY carry laws. In NC you don’t need a license to open carry. You do need for concealed carry. Chicago has some of the toughest restrictions on guns in the country but have by far the most gun deaths in the country. I don’t mind stricter background checks. If you have nothing to hide you wouldn’t. What I don’t want to see is a a government list of all gun owners and what they own. That is none of anyone’s business in government.

 

[Section112]

Mistake # 1 and a biggie - leaving a gun in front seat of a parked car in plain sight. So stupid. Law abiding gun owners would keep the gun locked up in a secured trunk. If he had all his guns locked up in the trunk and legally purchased, he still breaks NY State law and countless other states potentially if he drove them across multiple state lines from Wisconsin. Gotta know the laws. Hoping the judge finds a way to punish this kid for breaking the law but not ruin his life. He did not use them or harm anyone.

Have no idea if the press is accurate here or exaggerating the claims of ammunition. Very hard to tell if what you are reading or hearing is true today. This kid is facing a lot of trouble.

 

[The SHUttle]

I am all for gun ownership rights, but you have to know the laws of where you are going. I do see the benefit of allowing states to determine their laws governing those rights as cultures will vary significantly, which is the whole point of our system. As long as they don't create an infringement on 2A, have at it. Don't like it? Vote for a change to your state's laws, move, or don't move to that state if that is too much of an impact to you.

 

[cernjSHU]

Shotgun was in the trunk. We need a universal federal carry license. There is no reason a person who has gone through proper background check to obtain a concealed carry license shouldn’t have it be valid across the country. This is an example of gun laws punishing the law abiding. A criminal don’t care about gun laws. As a citizen of Wisconsin he probably wasn’t aware of NY carry laws. In NC you don’t need a license to open carry. You do need for concealed carry. Chicago has some of the toughest restrictions on guns in the country but have by far the most gun deaths in the country. I don’t mind stricter background checks. If you have nothing to hide you wouldn’t. What I don’t want to see is a a government list of all gun owners and what they own. That is none of anyone’s business in government.

You are correct, shot gun in trunk but magazine on the passenger seat.

I am a firm believer that we as a nation must have a national registry of all firearms produced in this country. From Manufacture to each owner, the owner should be registered. Any owner who transfers the firearm to another without registering the subsequent owner should be held criminally and civilly.

Moreover, ballistics should be part of this data base so that when a shooting occurs, law enforcement know who is the owner of that firearm which would solve a lot of crime.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

Moreover, ballistics should be part of this data base so that when a shooting occurs, law enforcement know who is the owner of that firearm which would solve a lot of crime.

That would be great as long as the gun is not reported stolen.

 

[PirateFan94]

Mistake # 1 and a biggie - leaving a gun in front seat of a parked car in plain sight. So stupid. Law abiding gun owners would keep the gun locked up in a secured trunk. If he had all his guns locked up in the trunk and legally purchased, he still breaks NY State law and countless other states potentially if he drove them across multiple state lines from Wisconsin. Gotta know the laws. Hoping the judge finds a way to punish this kid for breaking the law but not ruin his life. He did not use them or harm anyone.

Have no idea if the press is accurate here or exaggerating the claims of ammunition. Very hard to tell if what you are reading or hearing is true today. This kid is facing a lot of trouble. Front seat.

Wasn’t in front seat. A mag was on the seat. You strengthen my point. If you obtain a carry license in any state you go through an FBI background check and fingerprinting. There should be a federal law which trumps local laws if you’ve don’ done this. Most semi hand guns magazines hold 15 shots as 9mm. 22 I imagine hold more. They can anything holding more than 10 a high capacity magazine. Lot of scary terms for ordinary stuff.

 

[PirateFan94]

You are correct, shot gun in trunk but magazine on the passenger seat.

I am a firm believer that we as a nation must have a national registry of all firearms produced in this country. From Manufacture to each owner, the owner should be registered. Any owner who transfers the firearm to another without registering the subsequent owner should be held criminally and civilly.

Moreover, ballistics should be part of this data base so that when a shooting occurs, law enforcement know who is the owner of that firearm which would solve a lot of crime.

Absolutely not. First off all you’d need to do is buy a replacement barrel which world change the ballistics signature. Second the government doesn’t have any right to know what you own or how many, only that you are legal to own a gun. A registry as you call it provides a list for the government to come and get your guns if they decided to try out abolish the 2nd amendment.

 

[PirateFan94]

What’s amazing is the NY DA is letting violent criminals out without bail and dropping charges but this kid will probably have the book thrown at him.

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

What’s amazing is the NY DA is letting violent criminals out without bail and dropping charges but this kid will probably have the book thrown at him.

Sad but true.

 

[batts]

Mistake # 1 and a biggie - leaving a gun in front seat of a parked car in plain sight. So stupid. Law abiding gun owners would keep the gun locked up in a secured trunk. If he had all his guns locked up in the trunk and legally purchased, he still breaks NY State law and countless other states potentially if he drove them across multiple state lines from Wisconsin. Gotta know the laws. Hoping the judge finds a way to punish this kid for breaking the law but not ruin his life. He did not use them or harm anyone.

Have no idea if the press is accurate here or exaggerating the claims of ammunition. Very hard to tell if what you are reading or hearing is true today. This kid is facing a lot of trouble.

Agreed. Police in NY State have reluctantly arrested soldiers because of driving multiple firearms accross state lines. I think most of the soldiers were pardoned though.

 

[CaptBob]

For all the gun haters--

How to Legally Purchase a Gun in New Jersey​

To buy any firearm in New Jersey, you must first complete an Application for Firearms Purchaser Identification Card (Form STS-33) as well as the attached Handgun Purchasing Permit at your local police department or registered firearms dealer. You must also provide contact information for two character witnesses who can attest to your mental health. You must also complete a Consent for Mental Health Records Search application from the local police department. All this information, along with your driver’s license and Social Security card, is then taken to the police department, which will conduct a thorough background check, including a review of the mental health records and personal references provided.
And that's just the beginning---

 

[CaptBob]

Next you will need---
A Firearms Transaction Record, or ATF Form 4473, is a six-page form prescribed by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) required to be completed when a person proposes to purchase a firearm from a Federal Firearms License (FFL) holder, such as a gun dealer.

 

[CaptBob]

And then---

If you successfully pass these checks and requirements, you will be issued a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card. This process can take up to 30 days or longer, depending upon how busy the local department is at the time and how persistent you are. State law requires the department to respond within 30 days, but that is often ignored and they may take several months to respond. So stay on top of your application.

The card enables you to buy a rifle, shotgun or pellet gun, assuming you also pass a National Instant Criminal Background Check mandated by the Brady Law at the time of purchase.
If you want to purchase a hand gun there's even more paperwork. That's just to purchase, not to carry. A carry permit is virtually impossible to attain in NJ.

 

[SHU_Pirate1]

He said he was just working on his shot.

From top of the key to throw away the key.

 

[cernjSHU]

Absolutely not. First off all you’d need to do is buy a replacement barrel which world change the ballistics signature. Second the government doesn’t have any right to know what you own or how many, only that you are legal to own a gun. A registry as you call it provides a list for the government to come and get your guns if they decided to try out abolish the 2nd amendment.

Well, any barrel manufactured and sold would have to go through they same ballistics test.
Also, Where does it say that the government does not have a right to know what you what firearms you own or how many you own? Certainly that is not prohibited by the Second Amendment.

And really, if the second amendment does get abolished and firearms are banned then that is then the law of the land. And those that do not turn in their firearms would be committing a criminal act. I am sure you are a law abiding citizen who would not commit a crime. This point is irrelevant.

 

[ivyhillparkk1963]

What’s amazing is the NY DA is letting violent criminals out without bail and dropping charges but this kid will probably have the book thrown at him.

Exactly

 

[SHUisNJsTeam]

Well, any barrel manufactured and sold would have to go through they same ballistics test.
Also, Where does it say that the government does not have a right to know what you what firearms you own or how many you own? Certainly that is not prohibited by the Second Amendment.

And really, if the second amendment does get abolished and firearms are banned then that is then the law of the land. And those that do not turn in their firearms would be committing a criminal act. I am sure you are a law abiding citizen who would not commit a crime. This point is irrelevant.

If abolished (never happening) then the law abiding citizens would be left defenseless against both the government and criminals.

There are laws against murder (not only with a gun but with anything) so how come criminals still commit murder?

 

[Halldan1]

Houston Baptist basketball ‘devastated’ by Darius Lee’s death in Harlem shooting​

Houston Baptist basketball ‘devastated’ by Darius Lee’s death in Harlem shooting

The Houston Baptist basketball program is “devastated” by the tragic death of Darius Lee, who died in a mass shooting in Harlem early Monday.

nypost.com

The Houston Baptist basketball program is “devastated” by the tragic death of Darius Lee, who died in a mass shooting in Harlem early Monday.

Lee was one of nine people who was shot in the incident; police said that he was the only person who died, and was not the intended target in the shooting.

“We are devastated. Darius was a remarkable young man who loved the Lord, his mom, his family, his teammates, his friends and his entire HBU family,” head coach Ron Cottrell said in a statement. “We are in shock and cannot wrap our heads around this news. My heart breaks for his mom, his sister and his entire family, and for our basketball team. The only thing we find comfort in right now is knowing where Darius is. He is in the arms of Jesus… we know that as fact. And we will see him again some day.

“As great of a basketball player as he was, he was an even better person. I can’t even think of basketball right now. I can only think of what a light Darius was during his short time on earth. He was a joy to coach and we loved him so much. Please keep his mom, sister and family in your prayers, as well as our HBU basketball family, during this very difficult time.”

A photo of Darius Lee is put up outside a memorial in Harlem on Monday.DANIEL WILLIAM MCKNIGHT

Lee was Houston Baptist’s leading scorer and rebounder this past season, and was on track to graduate this December.

“Our prayers are with his family first and most importantly, but also with his friends, coaches, and teammates,” Houston Baptist athletics director Steve Moniaci said in a statement.

“He was a very fine young man who had a very bright future in front of him both on and off the court. This is unfortunately, yet again, another example of the senseless gun violence that seems to be plaguing our country right now and we all pray it will cease.”

The 6-foot-6 guard played at SUNY Sullivan Community College before he transferred to Houston Baptist.

Darius Lee (r.) playing for Houston Baptist in 2020.
USA TODAY Sports


“He was an innocent kid that was in school playing basketball,” Lee’s sister, Tiara, told The Post in an earlier story. “He cared about basketball. He decided to stay outside one day, and this is what happens.

“My brother’s gone,” she lamented. “Great kid. He’s gone for no reason. I’ve been trying to figure it out myself.”

Jorge Lopez, the coach at St. Raymond High School for Boys in The Bronx, where Lee played in high school, discussed being “heartbroken” by the tragedy.

“When I first found out about it, I had heard about the shooting in Harlem, but I was just so devastated when I came to find out that Darius Lee was the victim who was killed,” Lopez said.

“I’m completely heartbroken,” Lopez added. “He had everything going for him — a great career, a great family.

“He loved coming back and monitoring young people. He worked out with our guys, got to play pick-up with the players and just spend time with them.”

 

[Halldan1]

College basketball player killed in NYC shooting; 8 wounded - College Basketball | NBC Sports

A college basketball player was killed and eight other people were wounded Monday in an early-morning shooting at a gathering in Harlem, New York City police said.

collegebasketball.nbcsports.com

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College basketball player killed in NYC shooting; 8 wounded​

Associated Press

NEW YORK – A college basketball player was killed and eight other people were wounded Monday in an early-morning shooting at a gathering in Harlem, New York City police said.

Officers responded around 12:40 a.m. to reports of a shooting on a footpath along FDR Drive and found several people wounded. Other victims went to hospitals on their own, officials said.

Darius Lee, a 21-year-old senior at Houston Baptist University in Texas, was killed, the university said. He grew up in Harlem, attended St. Raymond High School for Boys in the Bronx and was back home for summer break.

The wounded included six other males and two females, police said.

“This Father’s Day weekend is a weekend where people were supposed to be able to enjoy themselves with their families,” NYPD Commissioner Keechant Sewell said at a news conference.

The investigation was ongoing Monday and police didn’t immediately have details about the gathering, possible suspects or what may have led to the shooting.

A gun was recovered from the scene, police said.

The New York Daily News reported that the gathering was a cookout organized by Harlem rapper Rich Rhymer, who posted invitations on his Instagram account. He noted that his two prior cookouts had been free of violence and wrote: “LETS GO FOR A 3PEAT.”

Lee, a guard and forward, played basketball at a community college in New York’s Sullivan County before enrolling at Houston Baptist University. He was scheduled to graduate in December with a bachelor’s degree in sports management, the university said.

Lee was recently named the university’s Male Student-Athlete of the Year. He led the team in scoring and rebounding last season, and finished sixth in the nation in steals per game, earning a second team All-Southland Conference selection.

Houston Baptist Coach Ron Cottrell described Lee as a “remarkable young man” and a “joy to coach.”

“We are in shock and cannot wrap our heads around this news,” Cottrell said in a statement posted on the university’s website. “My heart breaks for his mom, his sister and his entire family, and for our basketball team… As great of a basketball player as he was, he was an even better person.”

The shooting comes amid national concern over gun violence and as the U.S. Supreme Court is considering whether to strike down a law that makes it difficult to legally carry a handgun in New York.

Shootings are down 11% so far this year in New York City, compared to last year. Murders are down 12% but are still at their second-highest level since 2012.

 

[cernjSHU]

If abolished (never happening) then the law abiding citizens would be left defenseless against both the government and criminals.

There are laws against murder (not only with a gun but with anything) so how come criminals still commit murder?

I don’t understand your post. We are talking about an assault weapons ban. Not a firearm ban. Not likely to happen as we are as a nation at the moment. But assault weapons were banned in 1992 with the backing of Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford. So don’t say it is impossible.

How are law abiding citizens left defenseless? They can still have handguns, rifles and shotguns?

And yes murders will still happen. But we are trying to mitigate the senseless slaughter of people done at the hands of someone with an AR-15. The amount of people that can be mowed down is terrifying. Yes you can kill people with a handgun. But not have the same type of carnage we have with assault weapons. That is what we are trying to stop.

 

[hinson32]

Absolutely not. First off all you’d need to do is buy a replacement barrel which world change the ballistics signature. Second the government doesn’t have any right to know what you own or how many, only that you are legal to own a gun. A registry as you call it provides a list for the government to come and get your guns if they decided to try out abolish the 2nd amendment.

Why does the government have the right to know how many and what type of cars you drive?

 

[HALL85]

Why does the government have the right to know how many and what type of cars you drive?

Does the Federal Government know that?

 

[PirateFan94]

Why does the government have the right to know how many and what type of cars you drive?

Driving is not a constitutional right is it? Nuff said.

 

[PirateFan94]

Well, any barrel manufactured and sold would have to go through they same ballistics test.
Also, Where does it say that the government does not have a right to know what you what firearms you own or how many you own? Certainly that is not prohibited by the Second Amendment.

And really, if the second amendment does get abolished and firearms are banned then that is then the law of the land. And those that do not turn in their firearms would be committing a criminal act. I am sure you are a law abiding citizen who would not commit a crime. This point is irrelevant.

So can the government ask your sexual orientation? No. You have a right to privacy. Same applies here. Die the government gave a right to know about everything you buy? No. Guns are no different. The day the government tries to abolish the second amendment is the day you see the second civil war.

 

[hallgrad80]

It seems to be long past the time to have a Constitutional Convention to address the whole issue dealing with the “ Right to Bear Arms “ provisions of the Constitution .The environment that exists today bears little resemblance to the environment that existed in the late 17 hundreds and why a robust debate is necessary .

 

[PirateFan94]

And then---

If you successfully pass these checks and requirements, you will be issued a Firearms Purchaser Identification Card. This process can take up to 30 days or longer, depending upon how busy the local department is at the time and how persistent you are. State law requires the department to respond within 30 days, but that is often ignored and they may take several months to respond. So stay on top of your application.

The card enables you to buy a rifle, shotgun or pellet gun, assuming you also pass a National Instant Criminal Background Check mandated by the Brady Law at the time of purchase.
If you want to purchase a hand gun there's even more paperwork. That's just to purchase, not to carry. A carry permit is virtually impossible to attain in NJ.

Ridiculous. NC you go to county sheriffs, they fingerprint and ID you, they send that info to FBI for national criminal bg check and within a week you get a purchase permit. If you want a concealed carry you take an 8 hour gun law and safety course, bring certificate of completion to sheriff and pay $90 for a 5 year license. Wha la. With the concealed carry you can purchase any gun and any number of guns. With the purchase permit it costs $5 and it is good for purchase of 1 gun. You need one for each purchase.

 

[HallLine69]

It seems to be long past the time to have a Constitutional Convention to address the whole issue dealing with the “ Right to Bear Arms “ provisions of the Constitution .The environment that exists today bears little resemblance to the environment that existed in the late 17 hundreds and why a robust debate is necessary .

Totally agree. But there's zero chance of any real change, sadly.

 

[PirateFan94]

It seems to be long past the time to have a Constitutional Convention to address the whole issue dealing with the “ Right to Bear Arms “ provisions of the Constitution .The environment that exists today bears little resemblance to the environment that existed in the late 17 hundreds and why a robust debate is necessary .

No it doesn’t and you need 34 of the states to agree. You will never get 34 states to agree to abolish the 2nd amendment. The point of the 2nd amendment is to have the people armed to prevent a tyrannical government from taking hold. With over 330 million citizens and over 400 million guns owned (those are just the legal ones) it is a major deterrent for the government to try to become dictatorial. Regardless of the superior weaponry possessed by the government military and law enforcement, they are severely outnumbered. There are just about 3 million total military and law enforcement members today. Not to mention of the 3 million how many cross over to defend the country from tyranny? 2nd amendment won’t and shouldn’t ever go away or be changed.

 

[hinson32]

Driving is not a constitutional right is it? Nuff said.

There is nothing in the constitution that prohibits guns having to be registered.

 

[batts]

No it doesn’t and you need 34 of the states to agree. You will never get 34 states to agree to abolish the 2nd amendment. The point of the 2nd amendment is to have the people armed to prevent a tyrannical government from taking hold. With over 330 million citizens and over 400 million guns owned (those are just the legal ones) it is a major deterrent for the government to try to become dictatorial. Regardless of the superior weaponry possessed by the government military and law enforcement, they are severely outnumbered. There are just about 3 million total military and law enforcement members today. Not to mention of the 3 million how many cross over to defend the country from tyranny? 2nd amendment won’t and shouldn’t ever go away or be changed.

Stop. Do you think our government is intimidated by citizens who own fire arms? The US military would wipe out any cItizen militia in a heartbeat.

 

[catholicman]

Stop. Do you think our government is intimidated by citizens who own fire arms? The US military would wipe out any cItizen militia in a heartbeat.

But half the US military would join the armed partisans.

If an armed citizenry wasn't such a threat to tyranny, you wouldn't have such a concerted effort from the satanic global elitists, along with dirty tricks by the intelligence community, whom they control, to disarm the citizenry.

 

[TrueBlue1989]

There is nothing in the constitution that prohibits guns having to be registered.

I’m not a gun owner, to be clear, but there is nothing in the constitution that prevents the government from requiring one to register his sex partners for health reasons. The smaller the government the better. Politicians of both parties are more concerned about increasing their power than increasing the freedom of the citizenry. Our rights come from God not government.