4 mass shootings in 6 hours leave 38 wounded, 6 dead across US
Four US mass shootings in 6 hours leave 38 wounded, six dead.
No gun problems right?
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Seems like more of a crime problem than gun problem.4 mass shootings in 6 hours leave 38 wounded, 6 dead across US
Four US mass shootings in 6 hours leave 38 wounded, six dead.abcnews.go.com
Exactly. Let's not confuse targeted, run of the mill gun crime on the streets with sick, depraved random mass shootings such as the Columbine, Newtown and the Pulse.
A gang related shooting on the streets of Chicago is not a "mass shooting." That definition needs to be changed.
Did any of the guns go off by themselves or did criminals, who by their very definition are not going to follow laws, shoot them?
I agree, it is the people that are the problem... but I also wish we could add some laws which makes it more difficult for these people to get guns.
Just another typical weekend in Dem-run cities.
I've had my gun on the table for weeks now and yet it hasn't shot anybody. How can that be if guns are the issue?
A gun doesn't kill anyone any more than a fork makes someone fat.
I've had my gun on the table for weeks now and yet it hasn't shot anybody. How can that be if guns are the issue?
A gun doesn't kill anyone any more than a fork makes someone fat.
Or punish people more harshly that use guns in the commission of a crime.
https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelphia-atvs-dirt-bikes-city-council-police-20210613.html
Are dirt bikes and ATV's the problem too? Of course not...another silly thread from Twitterverse.
Are dirt bikes and ATV's the problem too? Of course not...another silly thread from Twitterverse.
It's an issue in my town as well:
Manchester Police Increase ATV Enforcement
"Don't be surprised if police confiscate them," Mayor Ken Palmer warned, of ATVs that are being driven illegally on the town's streets.
nukes are fine its just the people behind the button.
this wil always be a grey issue
this wil always be a grey issue
Even with tougher gun laws, most criminals would still have access to a gun if they wanted or needed. Most do not follow laws to purchase guns.
Right.
There should be a transactional agent between all gun sales and purchases. The gun you purchase should be registered to you and you should be responsible to ensure that gun doesn't get into the wrong hands. You should be held liable if you sell your gun to someone outside the laws and that person commits a crime.
Like owning a car. I am responsible for my car. I have to transfer the title when I sell it.
Interesting that people who have never, held, purchased, sold, owned, or fired a gun are posting on how they should regulated.
The agent you speak of already exists. It is a call and FFL.
Selling guns outside the law is crime.
Here are state laws on private sales (Which are a small percentage of sales)
www.findlaw.com
"Ensuring a gun does not get into the wrong hands" is way too broad. Are yo saying if someone breaks into my home and loads my gun safe into a truck, I am liable?
The agent you speak of already exists. It is a call and FFL.
Selling guns outside the law is crime.
Here are state laws on private sales (Which are a small percentage of sales)
Private Gun Sale Laws by State - FindLaw
While the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right of private citizens to keep and bear arms, there are some limits and regulations on how they are sold and who may possess them. Federally licensed firearms dealers are required by federal law to conduct background checks on...
www.findlaw.com
"Ensuring a gun does not get into the wrong hands" is way too broad. Are yo saying if someone breaks into my home and loads my gun safe into a truck, I am liable?
Majority of guns confiscated from criminal activity were purchased legally. It’s time to close the loopholes of private sale transfers in all states. All sales, private or public should be done through an agent where they can verify of the purchaser has the right to own a gun.
You should be liable if someone steals your gun and you never report it stolen. If it is stolen and you report it, you have done what you can.
Why aren’t those steps reasonable?
You should be liable if someone steals your gun and you never report it stolen. If it is stolen and you report it, you have done what you can.
Why aren’t those steps reasonable?
What’s more reasonable is clamping down on the criminals themselves. Yet we have bail reform laws that enables criminals to be out on the street 24 hours after committing a crime.
baseline for what? If criminals are in prison, they are less likely to commit a crime with a gun.
Sure. Not arguing against that. We can do that and also make it more difficult for them to obtain guns.
I was taught at an early age in business to take care of the big rocks first....then the pebbles....than the sand. You can fit everything in the jar if you do it that way.
Ideally, that would work in politics as well, but unfortunately that's not how things typically work out. If there is a gun reform bill advanced (which is already unlikely), it will be a one shot deal.
So you agree that our politicians are screwed up and don't know how to prioritize important stuff. What's the definition of insanity???
Yes, I agree US politics is not very effective which is why we generally don't tweak laws to improve them as we go.
Politicians would rather one side pass an imperfect bill so the other can campaign against it.
Defund the police movement will hinder more gun control legislation, which generally has not helped much.Witness Chicago tough gun laws and a shooting gallery in certain areas.Bail reform another problem ,liberal judges let violent criminals walk with little or no bail in some cities and then blame the guns for subsequent crimes.I think we have to let woke culture play out and then when it gets really bad the pendulum will swing back and then maybe some Muslims will not vote to re-elect repOmar right now her virulent anti-semetism appears to be ok to her heavily Muslim election district.
i said "you guys" Hall85 made the actual comment but based on the alignment of numerous likes i figure youre backing his stance.
no issue with him looping in atvs into the same argument?
Here’s some advice. Don’t lump people together based on how you perceive opinions. I don’t associate you with anybody else on this board. You should do the same. I know the MSM likes to break things down into one group against another, but that’s part of the problem. We are all individuals with our own thoughts and opinions.
im not. but considering in this particular thread hes aligned with all your posts and only chose mine to call out, i feel fine make that assumption.
i dont lump people together in a general. i do lump my response for those that are arguing the same point.
congrats youve officially deflected from the initial point.
lets just repeat it
i dont lump people together in a general. i do lump my response for those that are arguing the same point.
congrats youve officially deflected from the initial point
anyway. what are guns designed to do? what are atvs designed to do? explicitly....
Guns serve many purposes. Protection, target shooting, competition, collecting, hunting (rifles). ATV’s serve many purposes as well…recreating, hauling, racing. Both can be abused. Punish those who abuse…simple.
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The problem is you can punish those who abuse but the shootings keep coming because society is filled with countless losers. There needs to be something done to stem the tide of countless shootings that occur.
A realtor in NJ has to take a 75 hour course to even sit for the state test, yet a prospective gun owner just needs to complete a few forms and they can get a deadly weapon.
Obviously criminals dont follow laws, so severe punishment for those that break the law needs to occur, but good luck with that where nobody goes to jail anymore
I usually agree with much of what HALL85 says but to lump me in with everything he says and him with everything I say is just lazy and dumb.
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