Notre Dame back to the Big East?
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Did Fox know of this all along? When SH gave Sha and the staff a raise did they know additional revenue was on the way? Better logistics and natural old time rivalries for ND plus the revenue.
It would be great to have them in the BE. I'm not really following the Dollar side of it. They would make 76 million more by playing hoops in BE than by playing in B1G???
I want to understand the dollar side too. How much does each BE team make with the new contract.
I'm against GREEDY ND coming which I doubt will happen . They used the BIG EAST last time to rebuild their dead BB program and then bailed out at the 1st chance they had.
This guy is just another no-name out there throwing crap against the wall, he has ZERO knowledge and credibility. His math doesn't add up. Twitter/X sucks.
ND with its new NBC contract ($50 million) and its current deal with the ACC ($22 million) makes about $72 million per year. They are not going to purposely leave the ACC, pay the ACC exit fee (approx. $22 million for ND), the ACC will still own ND's broadcast rights in everything but football and hockey (GOR), and then join the Big East at a loss of $15 million per year.
If the ACC implodes, maybe then, but that would be a big loss of revenue for them, they may have better options.
ND with its new NBC contract ($50 million) and its current deal with the ACC ($22 million) makes about $72 million per year. They are not going to purposely leave the ACC, pay the ACC exit fee (approx. $22 million for ND), the ACC will still own ND's broadcast rights in everything but football and hockey (GOR), and then join the Big East at a loss of $15 million per year.
If the ACC implodes, maybe then, but that would be a big loss of revenue for them, they may have better options.
There is no denying that the ACC breakup is coming. (Sans exit fees may be ruled)
NBC has been a good partner for Notre Dame Football.
It is not out of the question for NBC to solicit/sell Notre Dame (and others) a package to strengthen their (NBC) basketball programming when this league (ACC) experiences free agency. The Big EAST could provide a stronger (MSG) and familiar profile for ND while maintaining their football independence.
NBC has been a good partner for Notre Dame Football.
It is not out of the question for NBC to solicit/sell Notre Dame (and others) a package to strengthen their (NBC) basketball programming when this league (ACC) experiences free agency. The Big EAST could provide a stronger (MSG) and familiar profile for ND while maintaining their football independence.
The math does not add up at all but they would almost certainly make more playing in the Big Ten than remaining independent + playing in the Big East. The B16 distribution was $60M last year per school and is likely to approach the $80-$100M mark going forward with the addition of the new schools.
Of course it's not going to happen primarily because the ACC has Notre Dame by the cathedral bells with the Exit Fee. And the Big Ten would almost certainly want ND as a full member. What's more, Notre Dame probably likes taking the $50M in TV revenue all to themselves and beating up on ACC teams 5x a year in Football, thus controlling their own destiny. With the $22M in ACC revenue they will make in the neighborhood of the Big Ten schools without the obligation of facing the murderer's row Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon etc. every year.
As long as they have and keep their own football revenue I couldn't care less where they go as along as it isn't the Big EAST. Mike Francesa (who I am not a fan of) once said ND wants to be Harvard during the week and Michigan on Saturday!!!!
The only way this comes close to making sense for the BE is if we're tearing up our new agreement before the ink is dry. ND is one of the few needle movers out there from a media rights standpoint.
That said SPK has already nailed things pretty well above. ND comes out less than whole in this situation which basically means it's nonsense.
That said SPK has already nailed things pretty well above. ND comes out less than whole in this situation which basically means it's nonsense.
The tweet makes no sense. But it's another reminder of how bad the BE TV-contract is compared to the Big football conferences.
BE teams will see about $5.5-6.5 million per year while Notre Dame will get $22 million per year for non-football sports from the ACC. ND getting paid quadruple what UConn and the rest of the BE earn for non-football sports. Brutal for the BE and why UConn will continue to look for greener opportunities.
BE teams will see about $5.5-6.5 million per year while Notre Dame will get $22 million per year for non-football sports from the ACC. ND getting paid quadruple what UConn and the rest of the BE earn for non-football sports. Brutal for the BE and why UConn will continue to look for greener opportunities.
Notre Dame leaving money on the table by not joining BigTen.
Having said that, I don’t think an extra $20M a year means anything to ND. There’s literally nothing (from a financial perspective) that they could do after joining BigTen that couldn’t do as independent. When you have a $20B endowment the world is your oyster.
Having said that, I don’t think an extra $20M a year means anything to ND. There’s literally nothing (from a financial perspective) that they could do after joining BigTen that couldn’t do as independent. When you have a $20B endowment the world is your oyster.
Norte Dame was cause of Big East break up and now will be the cause of ACC break up. They are selfish and why NBC would pay for games against Army and Navy makes no sense
They buy those games because people watch
I don’t think any team who willingly left the Big East for “greener” pastures should ever be invited back.
True. For the time being though, it is a mutually beneficial relationship.
We need ratings. Even with them doing what they did we disappointed in our renewal. Imo thank God we have our 11th member. The future is not assured.
ND being a Catholic University I would call it Greed , one of the Seven deadly sins !!!!
Since uconn came back, live event game ratings barely made a dent. I blame that on the broadcast partner
True enough. Long standing rivalries, especially with Navy. A segment of ND fans have always questioned the annual game with Navy..... promises made after WWII a large part of it... and of course the fact that it sells tickets is not a small factor. ND Navy At MetLife in October. One of the caveats in the scheduling agreement is that all Navy "home" games must be played in a pro venue. From Navy's perspective this game plus Army Navy pays for the 36 varsity sports and the many club teams they sponsor .... none of which is on the taxpayer.
For what it's worth Connecticut has participated multiple top 10 rated basketball games, both college and pro, the last two years. In 2023 UConn/SDSU was the top rated game, both collage and pro. In 2024 they had the top rated men's basketball game, but were actually beaten out by three women's games, including UConn/Iowa.
Previously, Connecticut women's basketball broadcasted their games on SNY, the Met station. In the next contract deal they wrapped in with the fox/TNT/NBC games. That's one of the things that bothers me a bit about our deal. Connecticut had an SNY deal that was worth over $1 million a year to the school. I'm OK with it being rolled into the biggie steel, but I don't feel like the conference got value for it.
I am speaking specific to regular season on fox sports family of networks. Significant good match up games have been on the broadcast network and were not even top 10 viewership across a weekend.
I think that more of a reflection of Fox Sports than of Uconn. Viewers still don’t think of it as a go-to sports network.
If you're on FS1 or FS2 You're not going to get the ratings that the same game would get on ESPN. Those ratings are about to get worse on Peacock.
Agreed on undervalued CONN women TV money but thinking long term, how long until Geno calls it a day? I know he signed a five year deal but that makes him 75/76 at the end of the contract. Really old to be coaching hoops. Very difficult for anyone to step in and achieve the same results as Geno. You want to be the guy that follows the guy. Think Tenn, ND, etc. Not sure about what the UCONN women are going to be without the Geno mystique.
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