Obama - Greatest embarrassment in US history

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If you read my posts I was talking about 10 days before the election. 12-14% lead that dropped at the end. Do you really believe tens of millions of people changed their minds in the last 10 days? Yes election night it was between 4 and 6% but I don't see tens of millions changing their mind in the last 10 days to get down to that number

Hard to argue with you when you just make stuff up.

There are outliers with any single polls but when you start looking at all of them together the data begins to smooth. She was never ahead by 12-14%. In fact, in September her polling was even below where she ultimately finished.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html#polls

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Hard to argue with you when you just make stuff up.

There are outliers with any single polls but when you start looking at all of them together the data begins to smooth. She was never ahead by 12-14%. In fact, in September her polling was even below where she ultimately finished.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html#polls

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...ly-four-drops-eight-points-in-a-week-n2237965
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-trump-poll-abc-news-230199
http://observer.com/2016/10/monmouth-university-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-12-points/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/23/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html

 

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...ly-four-drops-eight-points-in-a-week-n2237965
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-trump-poll-abc-news-230199
http://observer.com/2016/10/monmouth-university-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-12-points/
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/23/politics/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-presidential-polls/index.html

So you thinking that Clinton was up by 12-14% was using the 1 ABC poll which showed her up by that much and you just ignore that Reuters ipsos poll which showed her up by 4% over the same polling period.

Like I said previously. There are always outliers.

Because one poll showed her up by 12%, that doesn't mean she was up by 12%. Tens of millions of people did not change their minds. Likely some did (or just didn't vote) because of Comey, but not quite that significant. The ABC tracking poll had their methodology which was clearly flawed as their results were all over the place in a span of days Clinton went from +4 to +12 to -1. If the data jumps around like that, your methodology is bad.

Look again at the site I posted. Majority of the time Clinton was around +2 to +4 which is where she finished.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

So you thinking that Clinton was up by 12-14% was using the 1 ABC poll which showed her up by that much and you just ignore that Reuters ipsos poll which showed her up by 4% over the same polling period.

Like I said previously. There are always outliers.

Because one poll showed her up by 12%, that doesn't mean she was up by 12%. Tens of millions of people did not change their minds. Likely some did (or just didn't vote) because of Comey, but not quite that significant. The ABC tracking poll had their methodology which was clearly flawed as their results were all over the place in a span of days Clinton went from +4 to +12 to -1. If the data jumps around like that, your methodology is bad.

Look again at the site I posted. Majority of the time Clinton was around +2 to +4 which is where she finished.

ABC poll
Monmouth poll
NBC/WSJ poll
AP-GFK poll

 

[HALL85]

Here's another link about the poll.

https://www.axios.com/exclusive-astonishing-poll-about-trump-and-media-2453120782.html

Sure, but that's a poll specific to Trump and CNN. I've seen polls that show the overall institution favorability is down dramatically which was the point I was making.

 

[HALL85]

I am a liberal and therefore unable to opine?

The president of the united states tweeted an insult about a TV show host bleeding from the face. If you think that is not beneath the office and an embarrassment, then nothing I say would convince you otherwise.

You can opine all you want...who is stopping you?

 

[HALL85]

So you thinking that Clinton was up by 12-14% was using the 1 ABC poll which showed her up by that much and you just ignore that Reuters ipsos poll which showed her up by 4% over the same polling period.

Like I said previously. There are always outliers.

Because one poll showed her up by 12%, that doesn't mean she was up by 12%. Tens of millions of people did not change their minds. Likely some did (or just didn't vote) because of Comey, but not quite that significant. The ABC tracking poll had their methodology which was clearly flawed as their results were all over the place in a span of days Clinton went from +4 to +12 to -1. If the data jumps around like that, your methodology is bad.

Look again at the site I posted. Majority of the time Clinton was around +2 to +4 which is where she finished.

Virtually every poll had her over 300 electoral votes...some as high as 340-360. It was a big miss....HUGE!

 

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You can opine all you want...who is stopping you?

If you try to discredit my opinions with "He's just not over Trump winning"... you are.

 

[HALL85]

If you try to discredit my opinions with "He's just not over Trump winning"... you are.

It's an opinion of your opinion...you trying to silence me???

 

[shupat08]

Sure, but that's a poll specific to Trump and CNN. I've seen polls that show the overall institution favorability is down dramatically which was the point I was making.

Nope. Also covers WaPo/NYT & ABC/CBS/NBC. So according to this recent poll a majority of Dems & Indeps TRUST the "MSM" more than the pres. Seems to be a republican problem.

 

[HALL85]

Nope. Also covers WaPo/NYT & ABC/CBS/NBC. So according to this recent poll a majority of Dems & Indeps TRUST the "MSM" more than the pres. Seems to be a republican problem.

Is it a problem of party affiliation or maybe a reality?

 

[shupat08]

Is it a problem of party affiliation or maybe a reality?

Well it is a reality that the media is more trustworthy than Trump. Unless you are a Republican.

 

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If you try to discredit my opinions with "He's just not over Trump winning"... you are.

Just sayin.. I didn't try to qualify your opinions when Obama was in office.
Disagree with me all you like, but I am not automatically wrong because I am anti-Trump.

 

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Just sayin.. I didn't try to qualify your opinions when Obama was in office.
Disagree with me all you like, but I am not automatically wrong because I am anti-Trump.

Your agenda is pretty clear. That's all I'm saying.

 

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