You have an atmospheric river and now 4 raging wildfires but climate change is not a thing and it is just for each side to have typical political talking points
One calendar year difference in LA area
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Climate change? Really? This is Santa Ana winds blowing over a dry area. Santa Anas have been a big deal in that part of the world for centuries, and will continue to be. How the fires started is what really needs to be investigated. Fires don't just start out of nothing. Probably human stupidity or negligence, as that's what starts most wildfires outside of lightning.
Leadership would help, common sense might also help. Listen to Trump and Joe Rogan interview from couple months ago. Trump called this mess, they emptied their emergency water into the Pacific Ocean now they have no water in the hydrants. Cannot make this up, made cuts to fire fighters and resources add no water and you have a mess. Keep electing idiots and this is what you get. Wind is so bad not sure having water and resources unfortunately would make a difference. Still pays to be proactive and prepared to minimize damages.
No one is disputing climate change but wild fires have been going on forever in that part of the country. It would help to have water available to put them out. Seems like that is fire safety 101 to have water available. Last 2 years in CA. Have been the wettest in years but hydrants are empty. Leadership is necessary.
People are absolutely still disputing climate change, and Donald Trump is one of them! I agree about needing leadership, or at least better leadership, but Donald Trump is not that guy. Worth revisiting his comments from when he was president during the 2020 California wildfires.
Man, this is wild. I'm not sure why they even bothered putting him out there.
In another ten years this won’t happen again…problem solved.
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It's not really the typical time for nasty California fires. What changed that?
Here's what experts say is turning Southern California's speedy wildfires into a deadly urban conflagration that is defying the calendar.
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I don’t dispute it but not sure anything we do will change the results. Humans are not ready to make the sacrifices that would be necessary. I yelled at a guy who was draining his oil on the street in Montclair couple of months ago. My wife and I witness someone throwing a bag of garbage out there window on Route 23 in Cedar Grove last week. Take a few trips around the world places like DR or India and any hope to save the planet would be gone.
That is true but there was always a catalyst. A catalyst can occur naturally (earthquakes, shifts in land, meteors etc) but that doesn't mean human activity can not be a catalyst for a shift in the climate as well. For the last million years, Atmospheric Co2 was between 180 and 300 ppm. It exceeded 300 around 1950 and is now well above 400. Human activity caused that. t would be incredibly arrogant of us to believe that we could just burn whatever we wanted with no impact on the environment. We are likely beyond a point where we can fix it naturally, and I'm more worried about how drastic those measures will be and if we overcorrect.
On this topic though. I don't know enough about the situation in California to have an opinion on what caused / fueled those fires.
As we speak you could go skating, we haven't seen cold like the last few days for awhile. By next week you could be skating everywhere, problem is I sold the skates last year on ebay. Out of our control, electric cars are not going to save anyone. 80% of the world's population is trying to get enough food to eat, never mind education on climate change. We live in a bubble and even our own bubble is not very good right now. You are right every winter was cold, I remember the river freezing over.
The fallacy of extreme climate alarmism is that you can control the climate hint you can’t as Dr.Robert Casey the Nobel award for science winner as chairman on UN climate change panel over 20 years ago.said it is a bit warmer but nothing we do can to change climate.As many of you know the US has lowered emissions significantly over the last 20 years and it got warmer.Don’t worry will move to another reason like china and India increase theirs,it is not solely emissions it is undefined climate change,you are a climate denier if you disagree,we can omit data if it challenges, every supposed line of best fit makes historical temperatures colder, how about on hockey stick analogy etc.Finally Casey recommend we spent climate change money on medical research and he also noted many experts on TV spreading climate change alarmism never built a weather model compared to the 150+ professional models he developed so all on this board who listen to the world will end in 12 year if we don’t take not defined drastic action spread by experts like AOC take it with a grain of salt.
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