One on one with Coach Sha
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Iona was in a tailspin and basically everyone including his father told him to pass on our job and that it was 100% career suicide.
After Marquette they basically told him “told you so” but if he didn’t want to be a retread failed D1 coach he had to do something different
That message came from his father and mentor..bottom line
But we all know who you are so continue with whatever you want..you’re prob right
No AD gives and major d1 football or basketball coach a stern talking..that’s beyond ridiculous. You either get along or fight for power and a booster decides who wins
Also his second year was very similar to Shas second year..could argue it was better because the BE was way way better back than..you could also say Sha was better because of the NIT run..but I’m sure you knew that
But floundering for 5 years is strong…also who was his “top dog” recruiter back then when he was “god awful” at recruiting..that’s interesting
Was it 5 years or 6? Seems like you keep changing the years
If we had the money he woulda been gone..we didn’t and he got a reset
1) The way last season unfolded.
2) The way he handled himself publicly (or sometimes the lack thereof) last season. Embarrassing to me.
3) Not wanting a GM.
4) Not paying to keep Coleman and Middleton. Coleman was worth $1.2 million. I'm not a huge fan of either but they are better than what he has gotten in the off season. I don't see it or agree with it but in the grand scheme of things, Coleman was worth $1.2 million.
5) Struck out on a high number of transfers. The ones he got don't look the part when you are trying to move up in the Big East. Maybe Clark but he is really moving up in competition.
It's all starting to build. I'm still a believer in Sha but he's got one more season to keep me in the fold.
Put up or shut up, it's not all about you. Matter of fact, it should be very little about you and your way over paid salary.
I’m not a Christian. Does that matter? I’m just responding to a guy repeatedly calling me a tough guy. I’m trying to figure out if they may be slightly off because of something they cannot control. Then I’d apologize.
I assume you’re an amazing human with high morals. If so, instead of tithing next Sunday, consider giving to the NIL fund. Maybe give 8% to the church and 2% to the school?
so no real inside info. if only sha had $1.2 to confidently give.or a signing bonus.
Probably not. But if the Athletic Department and the HC can't get on the same page on a budget and how to use it, we have absolutely no chance of being successful.
This is an interesting point. After going 30-59 in Big East conference play, he still had a lengthy contract with an expensive buyout?
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I wonder why SHU would feel threatened by any competing school to poach Willard after such a dismal beginning.
Do you know what the structure of his contract was back then?
These exchanges are coming off quite childishly. A mutual cease fire might be an idea.
It should have as it was told to me by someone involved and then (not word for word) by Pat himself.
Not very “Christian” of you.
Please tithe to the NIL. They can use your hard earned “income”.
Also the fact that I’ve heard from a few people that there is one or two “former players” who are going out with a bang. As in, shit talking our program to anyone with ears. I assume that has something to do with the strikeouts on high quality transfers.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Sha can be rough. Many coaches are rough but Sha also often lacks the more positive social side they have. And now you aren’t locked into him long enough to adjust or accept it.
Being tough is probably part of it, but there’s more to it than that from what I hear
How do you know this? How do you know that no one is having a "sit down" with Sha? Hank and the Frungillos (and the Murray's) are major donors, to name just a couple, and I wouldn't expect any of them to function as Sha's "boss," just as I wouldn't see Repole as Pitino's.
This is not unusual for anyone leaving any program. In fact, it's the norm. Most of our former players transferred down, so not sure how them trashing the program matters. It's all about $$ anyway, so if you have the cash, the rest is a distant second.
I guess you’re right but I think you don’t know how a “high” D1 athletic department works
No P4/5 football or basketball head coaches have bosses at these school and ZERO would have a sit down
ADs act as partners or adversaries, than an internal struggle happens and the AD better hope he has donors on his side or the coach isn’t a winner
The school president is a boss like figure but would never have a sit down with a coach, it’s either: do what you want and win until you embarrass us or I want a new coach and again that is only if that president has donors on his side and the coach isn’t a winner
Sha has no direct boss at our school and NO ONE is having a sit down with him
Ed DeChellis, Mike Woodson and Mark Turgeon all got stern talkings to and ultimatums from their AD to make the NCAA or else.
Only worked in D1 athletics for the past 20 years, but I'm sure you're correct, otherwise.
By the leadership chart, the AD is the boss of all of the coaches, and some associate AD's have their own teams to oversee (usually Olympic or non-revenue-generating). You're not wrong in saying that with football and basketball, the relationships tend to be more collegial, but if change is needed, they should be comfortable having that conversation. It doesn't have to be "threatening," but they do indeed happen, and possibly needs to between Bryan and Holloway, if there is the wide disconnect that everyone here is assuming.
Ok you’re right
Let me know how the meeting where Bryan Felt has a comfortable meeting telling Sha what to do with his program goes
You don't think it matters that a program with little NIL funds, coming off a historically poor season and consistently bad offenses also apparently has a coach who is pain to play for? I'd completely disagree. I think that absolutely matters.
Nobody has a boss. Nobody reports to an AD or school president. Just ask him.
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