Paging Ms. McEnany
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Wow...she actually said that? LOL
you can't make this stuff up....just chirp out one headline after another, leave them like leaves in the road...never a worry about facts, accuracy, just move on to yell out the next headline.
Welcome to the Trump White House!
Yeah....she missed on that one.....just by a little.....
shocking this somehow triggered a trump supporter. cant talk about trump without mentioning biden. beat the over/under 2 hrs.
these types of statements seem to have a hilarious pattern from the trump admin and some that support. ive heard some of them get on obama for letting 9/11 happen.
people of marginal to high influence come across so poorly for both parties. ive heard a lot of legitimate sound logic from the right but the level of stupid seems to be undefeated by those with a microphone, camera, or social media account.
theres nothing of substance. just hate and fear mongering. whats the point of that statement? seems so delusional and brainwashed.
Could be worse test positive for cocaine like iron sheik in wwf
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Pat Kiernan flubs line, says Kayleigh McEnany tested positive for ‘cocaine’
NY1 morning host Pat Kiernan really stepped on his lines Monday when he accidentally said that White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany tested positive for “cocaine” — instead of COVID-19…
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yes i know, THATS how stupid some of these statements are.
at this point if you see any clip of the media, or somebody reacting to a clip its no better than gossiping about what happened on the bachelorette last weekend.
im saying that the party blaming and smashing is to the point where people will actually believe obama is to blame for 9/11.
im very well aware of who was president cmon.
You must be tired of crying the last four years.
When Obama won the second time I worked, parented and golfed a lot - and occasionally had some civil substantive debates with people re his bad AND good policies. I ultimately didn’t vote for BO in 12 unlike 08.
if one can’t see that Trump has done good (even if just minimal) you’re either incredibly dumb or bitter or both. And this actually describes most media (even supposedly apolitical “reporters”!) and many Dems. Can’t debate policy. Refuse to debate. Just cry that he’s mean, or loud, or tweets too much.
From spying on Trump to coronavirus and everything in between, main stream media and 25% of the people have only tried to tear him down at every step. At every step they’ve failed but are hopeful they stepped in crap with a pandemic that has a death rate that is minuscule; pols used fear to ruin an economy (which is having a far greater negative effect on people (including health)) and to say he mishandled the virus. for once someone explain to me how trump created deaths. Did he tell NY to pack old folks homes? (No) Did he sell our nation’s stock pile of ventilators? (No) Did he hide anything? (No)
Did he tell docs to even use ventilators? (no)
did he send PPE to other countries? (yes)
did he implement travel bans? (Yes)
did he downplay? (Yes; I guess you’d prefer he create panic for something with an amazingly small death rate?)
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This is where i stand, if he showed some type of universal care the last 6 months he likely gets reelected however he the maga pushers and many here feel economy is first last and only thing important...but for a positive economy you need a healthy population...health equals wealth...i know many tradtional moderate republicans that wont vote for him...also i grew up in an age of bob dole, jack kemp etc, now all the staunch republican senators are total bs artists only caring about getting reelected...they let trump maga mania soil the GOP
Health = wealth? America might be the unhealthiest country in the world yet economically we aren’t terrible. Try again.
honest question, what is trumps healthcare plan? healthcare.gov provides options but they stink, are expensive, and the whole process does more harm for your vitals than good.
the question is, without it does it get worse? does it go entirely unsubsidized and everyman for himself buying personal plans through the companies?
the question is, without it does it get worse? does it go entirely unsubsidized and everyman for himself buying personal plans through the companies?
The answer is that we are a consumption based healthcare system. The best way to lower the cost is to create more competition and price transparency.
is that your answer or his answer? not sure i buy competition. theres an absurd amount of red tape with health insurance. i think the companies like where they are at, and will fight to stay there.
it seems that in america, we will always operate on a basis where we have to pay for our lives. the people have no leverage. we must buy diabetes meds, must buy lupus meds to live etc. that wont change. the prices for everyone can go up as high as they want. from my experience we already have private healthcare companies who compete for the cash cow and its a disaster.
im very pessimistic on this topic. people are financially ruined if they have a condition.
Nobody knows but there’s a 100% chance it’s better than Medicare for all with open borders
We have very limited competition today. People have little leverage because the system limits price transparency. You don’t even know what you’re paying for.
Companies like where they are at because the consumer is forced to buy from limited options. And while I am not advocating for insurance companies, we cover more illnesses and diseases here than any other industrialized nation in the world.
i agree with you i just dont have faith that the transparency issue will ever be fixed. you go to a hospital and you get a bill. an endoscopy with biopsy is $10k...
it is? why not $20k? hell make it a million.
but do you think new insurance companies are going to pop up? i guess im a little dumb on how the transparency happens. even if new companies arent completely lobbied against and set up to fail what stops them from being un-transparent? the industry would gladly share a piece of they pie than go transparent, no?
i have a friend who has citizenship in uk, Scandinavia, and currently is living in another european city. he has no job right now but is able to get normal healthcare. the guy is very pro USA (wants to move back after covid) and a huge trump supporter but he says the government healthcare system they have there is better. the quality of care seemingly no different.
That’s a nice anecdotal story but it’s missing the key differences between systems. Has your friend been in a position where they had to consume a lot of healthcare?
Do some research on the following:
- Compare the service’s offered. A cancer patient in the US will have coverage for second, third, etc., lines of therapy. Depending on age and type of cancer, you might only be covered for the first line and if you have a reoccurrence, it’s on your nickel or you go home. Also if you need a knee replacement,
- US Healthcare cost up to age 65 are identical to other industrialized nations. We are by far and a healthier country than most other of her peers. Healthcare costs relating to heart disease, diabetes type two and obesity make the cost of our care much more expensive later onin life. Our lifestyle creates a cumulative financial burden on the system.
- Check how many patients come to this country for advanced treatments or rare diseases and vice versa.
I like to use the grocery store analogy when comparing healthcare. US consumer wants the Whole Foods or Fresh Market experience. Lots of choices and a great customer experience. Most European (and Canada) is like a scaled down Aldi’s. One option and a spartan experience. The outcome is the same....you still eat. But ask yourself, would you want government run grocery stores and that would be your only option to shop.
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I’m not a GOP guy. But I’ve watched Dems lie to constituents for a vote and power yet do absolutely nothing to really help. The examples are so obvious I need not write them out
Expand Medicaid but tweaks are necessary
lower drug prices
competition among ins cos
cut down on people without ins getting ER care for a cold or tummy ache
AVOID socialized care. It’s like any other liberal idea. we will be getting subpar care and pols and celebs will be able to pay for private docs
A lot easier to do it when you only have to pay for 60 million people or even less, rather than 330 million.
ik just sayin yea we have more people but we also have more money
my friends story is anecdotal. he wasnt getting any serious care like surgery orncancer treatment. but from what he experienced the aldinvs whole foods is a myth.
i mean ive had many experiences worse than aldi right here in the US
Shoreguy is naive enough to believe that "his" guys are the good and noble ones, and the other side are the "BS" artists. If you believe that, Booker and Menendez have a bridge to sell you.
I'm glad he didn''t have any serious health issues, but that's where the difference is (see my earlier email). Comparing a doctors visit between countries is immaterial.
Re: Whole Foods and Aldi, I don't think your are getting the analogy. Check on how many Americans cross the border to Canada to get any major treatment or surgery and then check how many Canadians come to the U.S. for similar procedures.
Because we don’t need to know how you are registered...your posting history speaks for itself...
By your logic i can never vote red. I have in the past and there is potential i will in the future as well
All due respect, even ignoring your anti trump stuff, you post a lot of pro liberal stuff
Back to that question, I don’t think Trump has a plan other than trying to undo Obamacare. Maybe he has learned that it is not easy or that it is politically toxic to push any plan forward and it's much easier to just say what we have is bad.
Does it get worse without the ACA? In most cases I would say yes, and in some cases no.
I think ensuring that we cover pre-existing conditions was incredibly important for example, but the only way we can pay for that and ensure people don't abuse that system and only get coverage when they get sick, we needed the mandate. Allowing parents to keep providing insurance for their children up until age 26 was also no-brainer.
Where the ACA was successful was if you did not qualify for Medicaid and qualified for an ACA subsidy and needed insurance. We never really got to a point where the ACA was fully implemented as it was designed though since the mandate was removed.
In my opinion, allowing a public option by opening up Medicare to younger people makes so much sense at this point. (another reason I supported Buttigieg early on) It will fix most of (not all) of the problems with the current ACA offerings.
Why do many that parade around here qualify everything with left or liberal that they don't agree with, not one time here have I said ever oh that is so far right or conservative
Huh? Because certain opinions fit into one bucket or another. I didn’t call YOU one thing or another so no need to get bent out of shape. Your use of the word parade is nice particularly since you start more threads than anyone. You’re the grand marshal
