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Someone's going to have to have the balls to look like an oppressor. You know as soon as you come out an say no you're not getting any of the tv money, there will be claims how the student athlete is oppessed by an institution making money off them. Can't wait for basketball and football to get real minor league systems.Having outside medical care paid for is a big thing , and I agree it is in the best interest of the student athletes.
As far as revenue sharing , at this point the student athletes really have no other option as good as college to prepare them for professional football. So I don't believe Penn State / BIG10 needs to budge on that one. But that may change if the SEC enacts this.
Basketball already has a head start. Personally, I don’t think we should look at college football and basketball the same. If I’m a top 20 high school kid that has no intention of spending four years in college, I would opt for the G league. Player development, you get paid, and there’s a proven path that other players have taken. Not sure what the insurance coverage is but I have to think it’s better than college.Someone's going to have to have the balls to look like an oppressor. You know as soon as you come out an say no you're not getting any of the tv money, there will be claims how the student athlete is oppessed by an institution making money off them. Can't wait for basketball and football to get real minor league systems.
I think the only way you'll see "real minor league systems" for those sports is if the pro leagues fund them. Those leagues will not make money if left to their own devices, there simply isn't any money to be made.Someone's going to have to have the balls to look like an oppressor. You know as soon as you come out an say no you're not getting any of the tv money, there will be claims how the student athlete is oppessed by an institution making money off them. Can't wait for basketball and football to get real minor league systems.
There already is a minor league funded by the NBA.I think the only way you'll see "real minor league systems" for those sports is if the pro leagues fund them. Those leagues will not make money if left to their own devices, there simply isn't any money to be made.
The reason college sports are still a big deal is the emotional attachment we, as fans, have to our colleges and universities. That goes away with minor league professional sports franchises.
And the reason it is funded by the NBA is because it isn't self-sustaining. There is little revenue to be made playing games in places like Oshkosh, Wilmington, Fort Wayne and the like.There already is a minor league funded by the NBA.
My understanding is most minor league teams make money, but baseball controls salaries on MiLB players and the major league clubs obviously pay signing bonuses and contracts of top prospects. Obviously money is made mainly from ticket sales, concessions and local marketing deals, virtually no TV broadcast rights for minor league baseball.Do baseball minor leagues pay for themselves? I have no clue.
And that works when you pay $400 per week.My understanding is most minor league teams make money, but baseball controls salaries on MiLB players and the major league clubs obviously pay signing bonuses and contracts of top prospects. Obviously money is made mainly from ticket sales, concessions and local marketing deals, virtually no TV broadcast rights for minor league baseball.
Right minor league baseball players will make less than the 75th best player NIL payments on many of these high level football programs.And that works when you pay $400 per week.
They really don’t. Why MLB cut the number of teams during COVID.Do baseball minor leagues pay for themselves? I have no clue.
Agree. People have to stop worrying about what's happening with college football, it's apples and oranges when comparing to college basketball. Take away the allure of March Madness and much of the college basketball revenue disappears. No Cinderella teams in the field of 64 and the allure fades away.Basketball already has a head start. Personally, I don’t think we should look at college football and basketball the same. If I’m a top 20 high school kid that has no intention of spending four years in college, I would opt for the G league. Player development, you get paid, and there’s a proven path that other players have taken. Not sure what the insurance coverage is but I have to think it’s better than college.
Also the money for football is all about the the elite in-season matchups and national championship. It’s built for fewer teams. The basketball pay day is March madness and you need to keep that at three weekends and at least 64 teams. At some point the NFL will figure out a minor-league system.
But that’s what a minor league is.And the reason it is funded by the NBA is because it isn't self-sustaining. There is little revenue to be made playing games in places like Oshkosh, Wilmington, Fort Wayne and the like.
I disagree with this. Cinderellas are nice and a special part of the tournament but when you boil it down you need the brand names to make it work. What would be an epic failure is an NCAA tournament without the P5 schools.wait till they realize the only reason people really get into the ncaa tournament was because of the Cinderellas of the world. St peters for one
This will be one epic failure
And it is a fact that they are being taken advantage of by an institution making money off them.Someone's going to have to have the balls to look like an oppressor. You know as soon as you come out an say no you're not getting any of the tv money, there will be claims how the student athlete is oppessed by an institution making money off them. Can't wait for basketball and football to get real minor league systems.
If it’s a true business schools like SHU should shut down every sport but mens basketball. That’s the truth. You want to treat it like a business, treat it like a business. Soccer brings in nothing, baseball brings in nothing, womens basketball couldn’t pay for the coach on its own. All of these “departments” in a real business would be shut down.And it is a fact that they are being taken advantage of by an institution making money off them.
That's been the case forever.They're getting a good free education plus the opportunity/coaching to develop their basketball skills to play in the NBA or overseas making decent money and a degree which they can use in professional life going forward.So,a value in basketball life and professional life.They are not being cheated by the present situation plus whatever the NIL brings.And it is a fact that they are being taken advantage of by an institution making money off them.
You're not wrong but the NCAA mandates we play 14 sports.If it’s a true business schools like SHU should shut down every sport but mens basketball. That’s the truth. You want to treat it like a business, treat it like a business. Soccer brings in nothing, baseball brings in nothing, womens basketball couldn’t pay for the coach on its own. All of these “departments” in a real business would be shut down.
Every employer makes money off of it's employees. That's part of business. If that's taking advantage of them of them we need a whole new economic system. Let the NCAA pay it's players taxable wages equivalent to what the free market of the G-League is paying players. I'm all for it. But it's not the schools or the NCAA's fault if they market the product better and generate more revenue than the G-League. There's no rule in anywhere that says if we make X in revenue, payroll must be 20%X, 30%X or even just 5%X.And it is a fact that they are being taken advantage of by an institution making money off them.
Exactly the point. The current set-up while its not 100% perfect is still the best 3 weeks in sports.I disagree with this. Cinderellas are nice and a special part of the tournament but when you boil it down you need the brand names to make it work. What would be an epic failure is an NCAA tournament without the P5 schools.
Heroes aren't really heroes if there isn't a good villain to work with.
Ideally when this works itself out, the basketball tournament will remain largely untouched.
Basketball schools would do the same if the money was there.Football greed is destroying college athletics. It is quickly becoming a professional sport. I say let the 40-65 schools adopt a full professional model and let the 300+ D1 schools retain the amateur model.
It’s not that disparate. Elite players and 2-way contracts are a minimum $125,000. Those are the players that would get drafted or projected as a pro out of HS.Just to add to that I think a lot of athletes will be setting themselves up for failure. The attitude of "I'm making 150K per year in college. Let me keep working on my craft." Hopefully they realize there's only so many spots in the NBA and NFL. Average G-League salary is 37K. I hope these young people don't pass up their studies trying to cash in now. $150K per year for 4 years isn't exactly going have you set for life.
2-way contracts are fixed at approx. $500,000 for this year.It’s not that disparate. Elite players and 2-way contracts are a minimum $125,000. Those are the players that would get drafted or projected as a pro out of HS.
So you make about the same, but the player development in the G is likely better, and you’re competing against more NBA type players.
You're going to see bench players in college making more than regular G-League players. Boosters know you need depth and they'll pay for it. Yes the elite G-League player may get some big money because of stints in the NBA, but the overwhelming majority will not. My point is you're going to see a lot of situations where the non elite player gets the false sense of money from sport which is going to end quick. Hope that non elite player is getting good guidance. Seems like there will be a lot of those in college sports considering basketball alone has 1,000 transfers a year all looking for the next opportunity. And they'll have people in their ear, more than ever before, trying to tell them to get money today. Could be a recipe for disaster if they spend all of college thinking of making money off their name and not setting themselves up for life after.It’s not that disparate. Elite players and 2-way contracts are a minimum $125,000. Those are the players that would get drafted or projected as a pro out of HS.
So you make about the same, but the player development in the G is likely better, and you’re competing against more NBA type players.
Completely disagree.Basketball schools would do the same if the money was there.
Indeed. Proud and rich alums will be glad to hand out funny money. Without the constraints of a salary cap or other restrictions, many players will be stand to earn more as "amateurs" than they would be going pro.You're going to see bench players in college making more than regular G-League players. Boosters know you need depth and they'll pay for it.