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Predictions Are in

EV's?

I have Biden with 322

Senate - Dems win control with
Alabama flips republican.

Arizona, Colorado, Maine and North Carolina flip to democrat. We won't know Georgia for a while
 
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Much closer than that, I have Biden 289-249.

With a little luck, and what could be more 2020 in 2020 than this, is an EV tie.
Why would you seek a tie?
Just give me an outright ec winner regardless of red or blue
 
Because it’s 2020 and this is what we deserve. Then the election goes to the new House which will be controlled individually by dems but controlled state delegation by repubs so Trump is in. Then you’ll see violence.
 
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The worst thing that can happen to the country is a close vote between Biden and Trump. Need one candidate to win in a landslide or else we risk prolonged rioting and lawsuits.
 
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I have Trump winning 280 to 258. Same map as 2016, except Biden wins Wisconsin and Michigan this time. Could easily have a tie if Arizona goes to Biden, which is certainly possible. Democrats are running a strong senate candidate there and I think that cuts in to some of Trump's vote. Will it be enough to flip the state? I'd say no, but it's certainly possible.

Senate I have 50-50.
 
The worst thing that can happen to the country is a close vote between Biden and Trump. Need one candidate to win in a landslide or else we risk prolonged rioting and lawsuits.
I dont think this will be a landslide of reagan vs carter, mondale or bush vs dukakis but the winner will be decisive
 
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I have Trump winning 280 to 258. Same map as 2016, except Biden wins Wisconsin and Michigan this time. Could easily have a tie if Arizona goes to Biden, which is certainly possible. Democrats are running a strong senate candidate there and I think that cuts in to some of Trump's vote. Will it be enough to flip the state? I'd say no, but it's certainly possible.

Senate I have 50-50.
That is not the same map, trump had 304 in 2016

Outside of Florida, southern states for the Dems been hard to come by in last 40 years, will much change on tuesday
 
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That is not the same map, trump had 304 in 2016

Outside of Florida, southern states for the Dems been hard to come by in last 40 years, will much change on tuesday

It is the same map. Which states did Trump win last time?

Faithless electors resulted in Trump with 304 last time. Man, you are so incredibly dense.
 
It is the same map. Which states did Trump win last time?

Faithless electors resulted in Trump with 304 last time. Man, you are so incredibly dense.

Give him a break, there was no Tweet about it to link here.

Independent thought, LOL???
 
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It is the same map. Which states did Trump win last time?

Faithless electors resulted in Trump with 304 last time. Man, you are so incredibly dense.
7 faithless electors validated 3 not validated 280 and 304 more than 10
 
LOL, Trump won states (and one district in Maine) worth 306 electoral votes. However, two Texas electors did not cast their actual ballots for him, so history will record Trump as winning 304 electoral votes.
 
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LOL, Trump won states (and one district in Maine) worth 306 electoral votes. However, two Texas electors did not cast their actual ballots for him, so history will record Trump as winning 304 electoral votes.
Whats funny about this, shu09 saying same map as 2016 and cited 280 electoral votes for trump...we wont have a change in electoral votes by state until 2024 once the new census figures go in effect...so i dont understand what is funny when shu09 says same map as 2016 and he cites 280...btw no Democrat has had good success in the south since Carter in 1976
 
Whats funny about this, shu09 saying same map as 2016 and cited 280 electoral votes for trump...we wont have a change in electoral votes by state until 2024 once the new census figures go in effect...so i dont understand what is funny when shu09 says same map as 2016 and he cites 280...btw no Democrat has had good success in the south since Carter in 1976

He wasn’t wrong.

2016 minus Michigan and Wisconsin is 280.
 
Whats funny about this, shu09 saying same map as 2016 and cited 280 electoral votes for trump...we wont have a change in electoral votes by state until 2024 once the new census figures go in effect...so i dont understand what is funny when shu09 says same map as 2016 and he cites 280...btw no Democrat has had good success in the south since Carter in 1976

LOL
 
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A tie would be the worst thing possible. There is too much polarization in this country. We need a decisive winner to calm the country down.

I do expect Biden to win and think he as President will be much like Gerry Ford. A one term President that will be a calming factor on our Nation. In this respect Ford did a good job as President regardless of whether or not he was re-elected.

Tom K
 
Another riot in NY City tonight led by BLM and Antifa yelling FU to cops saying they hope wife and kids of cops get raped.If Biden loses war will be declared by them and Trump might be forced to send in federal troops if gutless and sympathetic governors in blue states continue to tell cops to step down like they just did in Philly.The leaders of BLM are self described marxists, but as long as they support far left objectives the ends just the means in the view of far left politicians .
 
Another riot in NY City tonight led by BLM and Antifa yelling FU to cops saying they hope wife and kids of cops get raped.If Biden loses war will be declared by them and Trump might be forced to send in federal troops if gutless and sympathetic governors in blue states continue to tell cops to step down like they just did in Philly.The leaders of BLM are self described marxists, but as long as they support far left objectives the ends just the means in the view of far left politicians .
Where did you hear this?
 
Trump in a close one, wins Florida and PA easily. Win lose or draw we just witness an historical rallying cry to America. A 74 year old man doing 3to 5 rally’s in a day, he kicked ass like him or not. Outworked Joe and big O, if this was a sporting event it would have been an in your face slam dunk. Every time you turn on the tv he’s in another state. I was trying to remember the last time we had a terrorist attack or kids getting shot at schools yesterday. No nightclub shootings, no bombs going off at marathons, yet half our country wants to go back to normal. Go figure, similar to half our fans wanting to fire Our coach. The brain works in mysterious ways.
 
I think Mike Bloomberg has thrown so much money at Dems and the Dems have far outraised the Repubs you cannot overlook that. My prediction is Biden wins the Presidency and Dems win the Senate 50-50 with the VP being the tiebreaker. Then the Georgia election becomes ultra critical in January.
 
With a lot of predictions by people of a Biden win over the weekend, I’m curious to see what the market does today.

Market should be up today after last week's rout. It has priced in a Biden win.
 
I was trying to remember the last time we had a terrorist attack or kids getting shot at schools yesterday. No nightclub shootings, no bombs going off at marathons, yet half our country wants to go back to normal. Go figure, similar to half our fans wanting to fire Our coach. The brain works in mysterious ways.
Better check your memory. Perhaps a reminder, Do you recall the synagogue attack in Pittsburg that killed 12 people or how about the school shooting in Santa fe which killed 12 students, or did you forget about Parkland High School shooting that killed 18 people. Those are just a few in 2018. In 2019, 23 people were killed in a Walmart targeting Latinos, 9 people killed and many other killed outside of a bar in Dayton.

I guess you don't count a conspiracy to kidnap a governor a terrorist attack which just happened two weeks ago?
Your post was embarrassing to read. I get it. You want Trump. But, either your memory is completely shot or your allegiance to Trump makes you blind to facts.
 
Better check your memory. Perhaps a reminder, Do you recall the synagogue attack in Pittsburg that killed 12 people or how about the school shooting in Santa fe which killed 12 students, or did you forget about Parkland High School shooting that killed 18 people. Those are just a few in 2018. In 2019, 23 people were killed in a Walmart targeting Latinos, 9 people killed and many other killed outside of a bar in Dayton.

I guess you don't count a conspiracy to kidnap a governor a terrorist attack which just happened two weeks ago?
Your post was embarrassing to read. I get it. You want Trump. But, either your memory is completely shot or your allegiance to Trump makes you blind to facts.
You’re generally correct with everything expect you’re twisting the kidnap issue big time.
 
You’re generally correct with everything expect you’re twisting the kidnap issue big time.
So you don't agree with the FBI that a conspiracy to kidnap a governor is not terrorism? How am I twisting it?

Are you saying Islamic terrorism? Because we had that too under Trump. Remember the guy who ran over pedestrians in NYC
 
Mass shootings are a bit tougher when mass gatherings are limited.
 
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Better check your memory. Perhaps a reminder, Do you recall the synagogue attack in Pittsburg that killed 12 people or how about the school shooting in Santa fe which killed 12 students, or did you forget about Parkland High School shooting that killed 18 people. Those are just a few in 2018. In 2019, 23 people were killed in a Walmart targeting Latinos, 9 people killed and many other killed outside of a bar in Dayton.

I guess you don't count a conspiracy to kidnap a governor a terrorist attack which just happened two weeks ago?
Your post was embarrassing to read. I get it. You want Trump. But, either your memory is completely shot or your allegiance to Trump makes you blind to facts.
The Terrorism I was Speaking about is associated with folks committing murder for the sake of Some international cause or religion. International terrorism is violent acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign organizations or nations. Parkland shooter suffered from mental illness but I see how you could classify him as a domestic terrorist. For me it seemed like weekly occurrences up until last 2 years. I regret commenting because I would hate to see any future attacks. I do think that some of Trumps policies have made the country safer from international terrorism. Of course by defunded the police the domestic terrorist numbers will most likely rise and we will see more gun violence. Vicious cycle. Kidnapping and murder are a form of domestic terrorism these days so your point is well taken.
 
It's sad how the American public (including some posters here apparently) blame the president for these shootings. It wasn't Obama's fault that some nutjob shot up a school in CT, a movie theater in CO or other incidents. It wasn't Trump's fault that the same happened in a FL school, a Las Vegas concert or other incidents.

There are dangerous, crazy people in the world no matter who the president is.
 
So you don't agree with the FBI that a conspiracy to kidnap a governor is not terrorism? How am I twisting it?

Are you saying Islamic terrorism? Because we had that too under Trump. Remember the guy who ran over pedestrians in NYC
You’re painting the picture that these terrorists (I agree they are) are acting under the trump umbrella which is not correct. That’s all.
 
You’re painting the picture that these terrorists (I agree they are) are acting under the trump umbrella which is not correct. That’s all.

Nah, re-read the thread. Shallguy was implying one of the reasons to support Trump was that things like terrorism and school shootings aren't happening as often.

Cern correctly pointed out, that was not really an accurate statement.
and shu09 correctly pointed out that the shootings are unrelated to who is president.
 
Trump has cut funding to countries that sponsor terror. He also put a travel ban into place as well which was widely criticized. Both these items have in my opinion led to a reduction in foreign terrorism. Now domestic shootings are another story, but with money possibly being cut to police we will see how that turns out. Early indications do not look promising. Cannot blame the president who is against defunding the police. If however you have a president promoting those policies and gun violence goes up I think he deserves the blame.
 
Trump has cut funding to countries that sponsor terror. He also put a travel ban into place as well which was widely criticized. Both these items have in my opinion led to a reduction in foreign terrorism. Now domestic shootings are another story, but with money possibly being cut to police we will see how that turns out. Early indications do not look promising. Cannot blame the president who is against defunding the police. If however you have a president promoting those policies and gun violence goes up I think he deserves the blame.

Most of that is just rhetoric though. Biden does not support defunding the police.
He has not promoted taking funding away from police and there is no reason to think he would do so as president. Harris was a prosecutor and was not anti-police. In fact, progressives did not like her because they thought she was too harsh on her community. (to be fair though, since she started running she has shifted on pretty much every issue so who knows how she will be)

We don't fund countries that sponsor terror. We did return Iran's money which was theirs in exchange for the nuclear deal. The merits of doing so are debatable, but wouldn't you also have to apply your same logic to that? Is foreign terrorism less of a problem today because we reached a deal with Iran to give them their money back? I'm not saying that is an accurate statement, but it is just as logical as saying anything else was the cause.

Maybe they don't want to bother with us as much because we are tearing ourselves apart. Trump can certainly take some of the credit for that one. ;)
 
Most of that is just rhetoric though. Biden does not support defunding the police.
He has not promoted taking funding away from police and there is no reason to think he would do so as president. Harris was a prosecutor and was not anti-police. In fact, progressives did not like her because they thought she was too harsh on her community. (to be fair though, since she started running she has shifted on pretty much every issue so who knows how she will be)

We don't fund countries that sponsor terror. We did return Iran's money which was theirs in exchange for the nuclear deal. The merits of doing so are debatable, but wouldn't you also have to apply your same logic to that? Is foreign terrorism less of a problem today because we reached a deal with Iran to give them their money back? I'm not saying that is an accurate statement, but it is just as logical as saying anything else was the cause.

Maybe they don't want to bother with us as much because we are tearing ourselves apart. Trump can certainly take some of the credit for that one. ;)
Time will tell, I really hope I’m wrong. I think we need 4 more years to see if the trend continues. I personally think the media and democrats can take full responsibility for tearing us apart. Not my president, Russia, resist, impeach. Blame falls directly on the media and Dems. Where does it end? Let’s hope trump gets elected, 4 more years will do a lot to bring us together.😀
 
Time will tell, I really hope I’m wrong. I think we need 4 more years to see if the trend continues. I personally think the media and democrats can take full responsibility for tearing us apart. Not my president, Russia, resist, impeach. Blame falls directly on the media and Dems. Where does it end? Let’s hope trump gets elected, 4 more years will do a lot to bring us together.😀

I'm not clearing anyone. Dems played a part, media played a part (conservative and liberal media) republicans played a part and I think Trump came in and poured gasoline on the fire.

I don't see it ending with another 4 years or Trump at all. In fact I think it would get far worse from both sides.
 
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