Richmond, NBA bound?
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Good for him. He's a unique player. If he gets the 3 point shot going, he's very capable. Only stupid thing is the NBA seems weird about drafting guys old enough to drink.
Just needs to reduce the turnovers, improve the assist to turnover ratio and improve 3 point shooting. It can be done and there are lots of games left to show us.
But it’s not weird. Someone 19 vs 23.
They are looking for high ceiling players. Most of the time after 4 years of college basketball you see the warts most players have.
Also if you hit a home run on a 19 year old you have 3-4 more years of their services if you can lock them up long term as your franchise cornerstone.
Now there are always exceptions, Jalen Brunson and Draymond Green being a prime examples. But it’s not enough of a sample size to change that philosophy overall.
Plus if you don’t follow the NBA closely, the value placed on the capability to shoot the three is much higher than what some perceive on this board. Whether you’re a PG / PF / C, the expectation is the ability to make that shot with consistency.
There is a reason there is no longer a spot in the NBA for players like Delgado, Sanogo, Drew Timmie type players.
Can a really good PG be an exception to the rule. Sure!!! But at the end of the day Kadary’s current age and ability to shoot the three will hold back his NBA potential from a draft perspective.
KR can do it all except shoot 3 pointers which is what the NBA requires from a guard/wing..He can have a good,long career internationally.
There is also all sorts of actuarial modeling and data which supports why age plays a factor in this stuff. And it isn’t just for the NBA. Other sports like MLB and NFL use this too.
And it plays a role in overall player evaluation. A player putting up good stats as a 22 year old in college is way different from a projection standpoint than a much younger kid. I made this point during another KR thread, which some either misconstrued or got mad at because the kool-aid is being guzzled right now. There are scores of kids in the age 22-23 bracket who are playing in the developmental league, overseas or higher that would put up incredible statistics if they were playing in college right now against younger, less developed, less physical or athletic and simply not as good players. And that goes into evaluating one’s prospect as a professional. It isn’t a knock on KR to say that. It is just reality and context for evaluating what he’s currently doing and what that means.
Can you imagine what a 22 year old Whitehead would have done to college competition? Or numerous others we can mention. And many of them either didn’t make or didn’t stick in the NBA.
And it plays a role in overall player evaluation. A player putting up good stats as a 22 year old in college is way different from a projection standpoint than a much younger kid. I made this point during another KR thread, which some either misconstrued or got mad at because the kool-aid is being guzzled right now. There are scores of kids in the age 22-23 bracket who are playing in the developmental league, overseas or higher that would put up incredible statistics if they were playing in college right now against younger, less developed, less physical or athletic and simply not as good players. And that goes into evaluating one’s prospect as a professional. It isn’t a knock on KR to say that. It is just reality and context for evaluating what he’s currently doing and what that means.
Can you imagine what a 22 year old Whitehead would have done to college competition? Or numerous others we can mention. And many of them either didn’t make or didn’t stick in the NBA.
Very nice player. I love his game.
But with no outside shot and zero three point capability, i don's see any way he is a player in the NBA.
But with no outside shot and zero three point capability, i don's see any way he is a player in the NBA.
He will change uou mind on his shooting i think. He shot threes well l last year. Is taking more of them and he will make his share i think. His pull up game is very nice too.
He shot 44% last year and 34.5 % two years ago. 33% at Cuse. He’s focused on other areas and will find his stroke for the BET finals.
He shot 44% last year compared to 14% this year on pretty much the same number of attempts per game.
Last year he had the hitch in his shot and this year he has removed that. So the shot looks cleaner, but he is not getting the result yet at all.
I think this is accurate. I don't see how he makes it without a 3 point shot. Odd thing is that he shot it from 40% last year. What happened?
If Whitehead could not make it because of his 3 point shooting wasn't good enough, I don't see how Kadary makes it, unless he really improves that shot.
How many players in today's NBA are synonomous with 1 team? Warriors got some guys but very few. Most guys even all world players like Durant, Irving, Lebron are on the move every few years. Why they try to lock up a 19 year old who isn't ready as opposed to win now players is ridiculous because when most of those 19 year olds are really ready to help them win, they're a year away from moving on. Looking at the 2019 draft once you get passed the first 5 or 6 picks the overwhelming majority are not with their original draft team and quite a few first rounders end up in the G League. I'd say there's enough of a sample to sit there and say this get a guy to help you win now, and go after the young guy 4 years later. At least you'll know his warts before you give him millions as opposed to giving him millions to discover his warts. Seems like a reasonable idea.
So a player shooting 14% from 3 in the college game is a help you win now player in today’s NBA?
I don’t disagree with your mindset.
But Kadary at this point in his development does not fit the mold you are describing.
Malcolm Brogdon now is a different example. Was a 2 time All American. Graduated as consensus 1st team All American, ACC POY, ACC and National defensive player of the year. Averaged 18 ppg per game his senior season while shooting 39% from 3.
Measures at 6’5” 217 lbs - NBA body
And was still drafted in the second round 36th overall. Assuming mainly because of his age.
Goes on to win ROY and is only the 8th player ever to have a season of 50/40/90 splits.
1st I said Kadary needs to work on his 3 point shooting to have a chance.
Then if he does fix his jump shot he can help win now.
That's an extreme example, but there's enough Adrian Griffin and Fred Van Vleet stories in the NBA and enough guys who didn't live up to the ceiling who got drafted too young, combined with players not staying around with 1 team for their prime to make the philosophy switch.
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Yup. I think they broke the shot when they fixed it lol.
