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Sha's Socialism Model

I'd put Clark and Parker as the highest in the 750k range. Then the next tier down would be the bulk of our roster Payne, Williams, Simpkins, Staton-McCray... all in the 400-500 zone. And then the rest of the players probably 100k each?
You've just spent 3.5 mil on 5or 6 players How are u going to sign the big men?
 
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You've just spent 3.5 mil on 5or 6 players How are u going to sign the big men?
He also hasn’t factored in what Godswill and Felton are getting.

Highly doubt they stayed to be in the $100k tier he created.

based on those payouts, the only center on the roster who actually started in the BE last year would have to be in line with Clark and Parker.

There is NO WAY those 7 players are north of $4M combined.

Maybe we start the exercise over again. Just saying.
 
Agreed, Felt telling donors to move their money into Pirate blue, essentially required the house settlement to pass before those funds could be allocated or the school could contribute any of their own money.

Assuming there was little held behind in the traditional NIL fund? Can someone confirm. I believe we were told Onward Setonia was absorbed into Pirate Blue. Does that mean all funds remaining transferred over too? This is the type of transparency we have been asking for and still haven’t gotten.

I have zero inside information on projected NIL deals.

So I would be curious. If you had to put a price tag per player on the current roster. What do you believe they got from SHU in NIL $$.

Then maybe we can compare that to other players whose value has been leaked and see if they are in the target range based on portal rank / prior year stats / level of competition.

Would be a fun exercise to see what we did potentially spend so far.
Maybe this, adjusted for market. Is $3M for 10 players.

*EDIT* And i missed Williams. Maybe reduce Dar and McCray a bit and get him in. I think we’ve spent $3M. He’s gotta be another in that $200k range.

Clark
$600,000​
Dar
$500,000​
Staton-McCray
$400,000​
Fisher
$300,000​
Parker
$250,000​
Erheriene
$200,000​
Simpkins
$200,000​
Felton
$200,000​
Payne
$200,000​
Rivera
$150,000​
 
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I'd put Clark and Parker as the highest in the 750k range. Then the next tier down would be the bulk of our roster Payne, Williams, Simpkins, Staton-McCray... all in the 400-500 zone. And then the rest of the players probably 100k each?
Parker at $750K? For what?
 
Mind boggling stuff, just give same NIL amount to 10 scrub guards and see how the chips fall? Did he not learn from last year ?
If you look how his SPU teams played and their characteristics (sloppy offense, some good defense, low 3PT looks, muck it up) and how he is telling us how he wants to play - all the bitching about no bench in the good year too - what he is doing reflects that these past 2 years.

He wants to muck it up with a deep rotation. Play physical ball, rotate guys in with a smaller budget.
 
I doubt he had $6M bc whatever is tangled in the House settlement is an issue as Sha won’t pledge money they may be unable to come up with until that suit is settled.

He has spent a lot more than last year, FWIW. He wants a certain type and style of play though. He’s going to try it again. I hope it works. He’s not going to go too heavy with stars and negotiate with the agents the way you need to land them, regardless of money. It’s simply not him. So, sink or swim.
we prob don't even have $2m. a guy like coleman gets what, $1.2m? you literally can't field a team with remotely good players.

the math just doesn't add up. fans need to vastly readjust their expectations
 
we prob don't even have $2m. a guy like coleman gets what, $1.2m? you literally can't field a team with remotely good players.

the math just doesn't add up. fans need to vastly readjust their expectations
There won’t be any. The Rock was at maybe 3k multiple times last year.
 
If you look how his SPU teams played and their characteristics (sloppy offense, some good defense, low 3PT looks, muck it up) and how he is telling us how he wants to play - all the bitching about no bench in the good year too - what he is doing reflects that these past 2 years.

He wants to muck it up with a deep rotation. Play physical ball, rotate guys in with a smaller budget.

I don't see that formula working in the Big East. While you can catch some teams off guard in the non conference portion of the season, how many wins will that method get you when you in conference, when the teams know you much more intimately and are prepared?

Don't envy being the head coach right now.
 
If you look how his SPU teams played and their characteristics (sloppy offense, some good defense, low 3PT looks, muck it up) and how he is telling us how he wants to play - all the bitching about no bench in the good year too - what he is doing reflects that these past 2 years.

He wants to muck it up with a deep rotation. Play physical ball, rotate guys in with a smaller budget.

I don't see that formula working in the Big East. While you can catch some teams off guard in the non conference portion of the season, how many wins will that method get you when you in conference, when the teams know you much more intimately and are prepared?

Don't envy being the head coach right now.
I'm not against the style of play per se but it's much more difficult to make it work at the high-major level than it is at the low-major level.

If you want to play 10 or 11 players, those guys at the end of your rotation need to be able to hang with the top players on the opposing team. If not, you're at a disadvantage during at least some of the minutes those players are on the floor.

At the MAAC level, the talent level is spread out more evenly across the roster. You can play that way and not be hurt with your last guys on the floor.

Here, you have one-and-dones and top level veterans -- guys who are better than your starting five much less the back end of your second five.
 
Maybe this, adjusted for market. Is $3M for 10 players.

*EDIT* And i missed Williams. Maybe reduce Dar and McCray a bit and get him in. I think we’ve spent $3M. He’s gotta be another in that $200k range.

Clark
$600,000​
Dar
$500,000​
Staton-McCray
$400,000​
Fisher
$300,000​
Parker
$250,000​
Erheriene
$200,000​
Simpkins
$200,000​
Felton
$200,000​
Payne
$200,000​
Rivera
$150,000​
I wonder how much inflation has hit the market this year.

For example Ja'Kobi Gillespie is rumored to have had an NIL deal worth around $600k last year (2023-24) at Maryland.

His numbers transferring from Belmont as an All Conference player (and all MVC defense) out of the Missouri Valley Conference were outstanding.
17.2 ppg
2.2 steals per game
4.2 assists per game
83% FT
56% FG
38% 3 pt FG

Are we to believe that only one year later that same $600k gets you Adam Budd Clark

All conference in the MAAC
19.2 ppg
6.0 apg
4.2 rpg
44% FG
28% 3 pt Fg

Feels like Clark is a poor man’s Gillespie at the same price just one year later.
 
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There won’t be any. The Rock was at maybe 3k multiple times last year.
SHU hoops has given me more than I have given it. So count me in for this coming season. The excitement of the PJ era, once it got started - playing for the NC, an insane thing for a SH 75 grad to even dream of, followed by more terrific years of Terry and Jerry, watching Shaheen put on the blue hat on the Mike Quick show, then the S16 run a few yrs later, the amazing Dre EG summer, the comeback against AZ under Orr than the surprise bid in his last year, The WV game under BG and some others too, and the great run under KW - 2 BE titles, Sr night for the Angel / Khadeen class, Myles from Trenton, Uconn threepeat, and others...

I have gotten way more than I have given. If we loose too many again, I am all in the next year too.
 
SHU hoops has given me more than I have given it. So count me in for this coming season. The excitement of the PJ era, once it got started - playing for the NC, an insane thing for a SH 75 grad to even dream of, followed by more terrific years of Terry and Jerry, watching Shaheen put on the blue hat on the Mike Quick show, then the S16 run a few yrs later, the amazing Dre EG summer, the comeback against AZ under Orr than the surprise bid in his last year, The WV game under BG and some others too, and the great run under KW - 2 BE titles, Sr night for the Angel / Khadeen class, Myles from Trenton, Uconn threepeat, and others...

I have gotten way more than I have given. If we loose too many again, I am all in the next year too.
Yeah I’m in for the long haul as well, but the lean years suck which is why I never took for granted what KW was delivering. Now we’re already 4 years between NCAAT berths again and I doubt we’re making it in 2026.
 
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