SHU PG Goat
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I wasn't sure about listing him as a PG. He didn't play that position much as a frosh and was really a 2G handling the ball his second year. Plus if I added him then the question would have been moot. 
FWIW he'll be listed in tomorrows question re 2Gs.
FWIW he'll be listed in tomorrows question re 2Gs.
To me, it's Shaheen Holloway. The best distributor I ever saw, and who could also score. He played with a lot of untalented teammates who cost him countless assists.
(I should say that I never saw Calandrillo play, so I can't fairly compare him to the others, as great as I know he was.)
(I should say that I never saw Calandrillo play, so I can't fairly compare him to the others, as great as I know he was.)
Andre Barrett would be my choice, They were all great. But in terms of who was the best all around pure PG he tops my list.
Danny never played with Tynes who was one of our all time leading scorers. And Galis was a 2G to Calandrillo's PG the one year they played together.
Tynes never played in the Big East but Galis did in the league's first year of existence so he will be listed tomorrow as a 2G.
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I saw most of the games they all played. Tynes was pure silk, Galis a pro and Callandrillo a warrior. since it's only Big East, Callandrillo, Sha, Dre. Hurley was also better than most people want to acknowledge.
Callandrillo fits best as a 2 guard or lead guard. He was a prolific scorer.
But my money goes to Sha. If he had a better supporting cast around him he could have broken NCAA assist records. He was that good. And watching him run the point at a number of SHU practices in the last seven years a number of our PGs could not stay with him even though he is their senior by quite a bit. He would blow by our guards in practice at will.
During his career he was always so cool under pressure too. He seemed to relish the big moment.
Barrett would be my second choice. Lightning quick and also very cool under pressure. Had one of the best freshman years I've ever seen from a PG and he played a ton of minutes.
But my money goes to Sha. If he had a better supporting cast around him he could have broken NCAA assist records. He was that good. And watching him run the point at a number of SHU practices in the last seven years a number of our PGs could not stay with him even though he is their senior by quite a bit. He would blow by our guards in practice at will.
During his career he was always so cool under pressure too. He seemed to relish the big moment.
Barrett would be my second choice. Lightning quick and also very cool under pressure. Had one of the best freshman years I've ever seen from a PG and he played a ton of minutes.
DC was the guy you wanted with the ball in the last minute. But for sheer PG abilities Dre and Sha were right from PG central casting. And Gerald was the shut down defender no one wanted on them at the end of the game It's like picking a favorite child!
There is no wrong answer picking any of the four.
There is no wrong answer picking any of the four.
Do you think fans were mad SHU couldn't recruit a pure PG back then?
Hard to pick between Sha & A.B. Sha didn't have the best supporting class....So I give Sha the edge.
My List
1) Holloway - played with substandard talent for most of his time here. Yet has 20 assists more than Dre and played less games due to various injuries.
2) Barrett- played with better talent than Holloway but was a better and more consistent outside shooter than Holloway. Very close.
3) Jordan Theodore Improved every year. As a senior 6.6 assists and 16 its a game.
4) Eugene Harvey Fantastic Freshman year 4.2 assists and 16.6 its per game. However, he never improved.
5) Olliver Taylor - Underrated and steady PG
6) Brian Caver- May have been the most talented PG ever at SH. Shot horribly from 3pt except his last year.
6) Gerald Green - Great pg but only started last two years and did not have the best stats.
7) Donald Copeland - One great year. He which would rank higher if only based on the best year of career. 4.5 assists and 16 pts his senior year.
Hard to quantify Whitehead since he only played one year at the pg position. But, it was one hell of a year. But based upon that one year, I would put him #3.
1) Holloway - played with substandard talent for most of his time here. Yet has 20 assists more than Dre and played less games due to various injuries.
2) Barrett- played with better talent than Holloway but was a better and more consistent outside shooter than Holloway. Very close.
3) Jordan Theodore Improved every year. As a senior 6.6 assists and 16 its a game.
4) Eugene Harvey Fantastic Freshman year 4.2 assists and 16.6 its per game. However, he never improved.
5) Olliver Taylor - Underrated and steady PG
6) Brian Caver- May have been the most talented PG ever at SH. Shot horribly from 3pt except his last year.
6) Gerald Green - Great pg but only started last two years and did not have the best stats.
7) Donald Copeland - One great year. He which would rank higher if only based on the best year of career. 4.5 assists and 16 pts his senior year.
Hard to quantify Whitehead since he only played one year at the pg position. But, it was one hell of a year. But based upon that one year, I would put him #3.
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Underrated player who had one hell of a senior year
Danny does not belong on the list
Underrated player who had one hell of a senior year
Danny does not belong on the list
Although pre-Big East, Paul Lape was one of the best, pure point guards I ever saw in college. Truly incredible.
He was incredible. Not sure what you call it but the time he reversed the behind the back pass for an assist was unlike anything I'd ever seen before or after.
Callandrillo - a no brainier. Could do it all, including blocking a shot of BC's 6'9" Jay "I bet on the Spread" Murphy, or hitting a shot from the corner while falling out of bounds to beat Princeton toned the game ;coming from 20+ down I might add). Would be a tougher choice if Greek's Mr. Basketball was included.
Ed Note - vote would be different if 4 years in BE was the criteria. That would regrettably eliminate DC.
Ed Note - vote would be different if 4 years in BE was the criteria. That would regrettably eliminate DC.
Gotcha, well then hes 2nd to hazellI wasn't sure about listing him as a PG. He didn't play that position much as a frosh and was really a 2G handling the ball his second year. Plus if I added him then the question would have been moot.
FWIW he'll be listed in tomorrows question re 2Gs.
I think I would vote Sha but I would ha e loved to see what Harvey could have done with different personnel, he showed glimpses of being better than the worst of the group unfortunately he didn't have much to work with.
DC best scorer hands down among that group. If the question was, which of these players do want to have the ball with the game on the Line? The answer is DC again. That's really all that matters.
Sha. But for heart in crunch time Danny C.
He was a big hit at Long Branch alumni lunch on April 28.
The stories of him and Raf were priceless.
He was a big hit at Long Branch alumni lunch on April 28.
The stories of him and Raf were priceless.
