Taurean Thompson
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not sure how we dont have a schollie if Gordon & Anderson are done after this season. Only given schollie for next season I'm aware of is for Powell. Plus. I'd be shocked if one of these three doesn't leave unless we have a great ending to the season (don't want anyone to leave, I'm just being realistic): Soffer, Carter, Anthony. And if this season doesn't go the way we all want it to, who knows who might leave.
Anderson might not be done. Like Dan posted, he has to apply for a 5th year and he expects to get it. This is only Anderson's 3rd year of bball (2013-14 was a RS). We currently only have 1 scholarship to be taken by Powell.
Anderson hasn't been playing lately. He got some PT in the beginning of the year and now Anthony seems to be getting the nod to spell some minutes at the center position. Rasheed seemed to show a nice hook shot last season but seems to get pushed around in the paint. What is Anderson's role this year and is he worth getting a ship next year? Ish and Nzei will get the pf minutes and that leaves just a few minutes for Anderson, Anthony and Carter to back up Angel next year. May not have room for all of these guys next year unless one of the emerges as a defensive stopper or a scorer.
If Anderson gets a Scolie to the Law school we may have the best of both worlds. I understand that is a possibility. I would take Thompson in a second. 6'10" fast needs more muscle and some weight. But 220 to 240 can happen with the right regimine. We need a real 5 to spell Angel. Thompson is listed as a PF but he does do some windex work on the glass. And put some muscle on him and we have an answer to Creighton and maybe Govan as he gets better, and he will.
You can't use an academic scholarship and play basketball. Think of how schools would abuse that if you could.
If Anderson were to forgo basketball and concentrate on Law School were he to be awarded an academic scholarship then you open up a ship. I only offer that alternative because it can't be fun for him getting as few minutes as he does and I don't see that changing next year either.
Anderson seems like a stellar kid and the type of guy you'd like to have on the team, but his contribution has been nearly nonexistent this season. Delgado has essentially no half-reliable backups, and for a sophomore with foul trouble this is becoming dangerous. I don't know or care to fully know the mechanics of the situation, but I'd love for Anderson to find a way to be a Seton Hall law student on an academic scholarship and let basketball go. The spot he is taking this year could be much better used next year by someone who can dedicate himself to basketball full-time, contribute in games consistently, and actually need an athletic scholarship in order to attend school.
uncalled for comments about Anderson. He offers more than some others, but to do what is suggested is purely disrespectful. I want Thompson, but I don't want anyone thrown off the team. Maybe based on other circumstances a scholarship will open up, but it's pretty low class to take Anderson off of a basketball scholarship. It's the type of move made by other coaches we have seen bashed on here.
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You are joking aren't you? Disrespectful? How would it be disrespectful to have the law school give Anderson an academic scholarship and have him concentrate on law school instead of being the 13th guy on the bench? He is barely a contributor. He can be taken care of but it is time that he moves on from basketball. Everyone gets what they want that way with no disrespect to anyone.
- I think that Anderson has already made up his mind that he is not moving on to play above this level, he is a sharp kid and law school is no joke. He is going to have to dedicate himself which will not allow him to spend the time either way to make the best out of the situation. If he wants to play, I thought he could walk on if he is under scholarship at the graduate level not as an undergrad, but he is not going to be a major contributor no matter what if he is taking law school seriously. Based on what I have heard he is an excellent student but again, no matter what kind in of student you are, I don't believe you can be at your best at both.
Where did you read the kid doesn't want to play basketball anymore? How do you know that's what he wants? Do you guys hang out on the weekend? If you have proof he doesn't want to play anymore then it's a different story. Last time I checked he is not the 13th guy on the bench and I wouldn't expect him to be the 13th guy next year either at this point. When you recruit a kid you tell him the truth. Based on the fact he is applying for the 5th year, sounds like he came here to play 2 years. But unless you have proof he wants out of basketball and just wants money for law school, then your post is the joke.
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Even Delgado has trouble handing the bigger pf and centers in the league. We need someone who can at least stop the scoring in the paint. We've been killed in the paint in a few BE games. Ish and Nzei have to guard bigger pf and they are really sf. I'd like to see Anderson to at least play some quality defensive minutes. I was hoping to see him in yesterday as they were pushing us around in the paint
We will if a player leaves on his own accord. Players are transferring a lot more now than in years past for different reasons. This is something we can't control and if a player doesn't want to be a lifelong pirate than I will wish them well. This is not an expense on our point but a loss that could become a gain if the player leaving is not as good as Taurean.
I never said that he doesn't want to play basketball. I have not a clue what he wants. But he is taking up a ship that we desperately need. That ship should go to a player that can actually help the team. If Thompson becomes available, then we have to find a ship. I would take the ship from Anderson and give the kid an academic scholarship for law school. Thus, you take care of Anderson and not hurt him.
There are only two other scholarship players that play less than him - Carter and Soffer. It is quite possible that Carter with a year under his belt could send Anderson further down on the depth chart. Regardless of whether he is 10th or 13th, he is not playing any real minutes.
Dude are you saying you want to be the school known as giving out scholarships that later takes them away. It's one of those things we've blasted other schools for in the past on here. Plus you have to be fair to the kid. If your kid had multiple offers to play 2 years at a school, chose a school, then after 1 year said sorry we will give you free academics but you can't play anymore, that would be wrong because he could have gone to another school. So how the hell can you say you are not hurting Anderson when you don't know what he wants. And the fact he is applying for a 5th year, reading between the lines says he wants to play, thus you are hurting him. Otherwise we should have been straight forward and said you can play 1 year and that's it.
He didn't have multiple offers. We were the only idiots to allow this ridiculous setup he's doing. Thanks Hobbs for it...a final terrible decision before he left SHU. And now it might really cost us if TT wants to commit to us. Awesome.
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Your argument with cernjSHU is creative but flawed . The discussion is not about taking a scholarship away from anyone but whether Anderson should have his athletic scholarship converted into an academic ship and his stepping away from basketball as a recognition that you can't play D-1 basketball and attend law school . The second issue you raise is that he had other schools that were willing to give him a ship for BB for 2 years and we would take that second year away from him. I would submit to you that no school or no coach would have offered him a ship where the player would attend law school while trying to play D-1 BB . It doesn't work.
Taking Anderson under the conditions we talked about was a risk due to the limited time he can devote to BB because of the time demands of attending law school . There is no solution that's going to make everyone happy and there may not be one but the status quo and the opinions and options that are being offered are not meant to harm Anderson in any way but are just people thinking out loud.
Your argument with cernjSHU is creative but flawed . The discussion is not about taking a scholarship away from anyone but whether Anderson should have his athletic scholarship converted into an academic ship and his stepping away from basketball as a recognition that you can't play D-1 basketball and attend law school . The second issue you raise is that he had other schools that were willing to give him a ship for BB for 2 years and we would take that second year away from him. I would submit to you that no school or no coach would have offered him a ship where the player would attend law school while trying to play D-1 BB . It doesn't work.
Taking Anderson under the conditions we talked about was a risk due to the limited time he can devote to BB because of the time demands of attending law school . There is no solution that's going to make everyone happy and there may not be one but the status quo and the opinions and options that are being offered are not meant to harm Anderson in any way but are just people thinking out loud.
Hallgrad80 thats where you are wrong. I have no problem with the idea of converting the scholarship to academic IF thats what Anderson came here for. IF he came here to play for 2 years and you cut it short, unless you have unlimited resources like Calipari, negative recruiting that Seton Hall gets rid of players 1st chance they get will occur. If he Anderson can play and go to law school for 1 more, and he wants to do it 1 more year, it's just bad business to tell him no. If he doesn't want to play 1 more year and we convert it to an academic scholarship, then thats fine.
HoopsFan.
SH doesn't have a reputation for letting players go and never has and in this highly unusual case there would be little if any criticism if he left the BB program. As to whether he wants to continue playing BB I would just add that he's seeing very limited minutes as it is and sitting can't be fun .
We dont have to retract a ship, but i can surely root for him to decide to stop playing basketball on his own accord. if hes serious about law school, and he gets an academic ship, he'll most likely want to stop playing bball.
There is a major difference between being forced to leave to open up a scholarship for someone else and just leaving the basketball program on your own to focus on law school. If you don't understand that, there's no use in discussing anymore. Nobody would criticize a kid choosing law school over basketball. People will criticize a player being asked not to come back in order to open up a scholarship for someone else. The fact he applied for a 5th year is good evidence he wants to play next year.
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SHU has a great chance to go to a post season tournament. Great youth and energy. But please do not force any kid to leave. If a kid chooses on his own it's good luck. If your staff forces a kid to leave it will be a horrible thing and karma is a B.
Just wanna remind you that the scummiest programs prosper the most. Little karma in college sports.
I can't believe some are even talking about this. This day and age, you have to expect a transfer or two. Very rarely do rosters carry over 100% from year to year.
Also, not all 13 scholarship players can be stars. Every team has its role players and end of the bench guys.
Also, not all 13 scholarship players can be stars. Every team has its role players and end of the bench guys.
1) odds are there WILL be an open ship besides Anderson ship.
2) it's hard to calculate Anderson's value to this team, on the court he wasn't a good pickup but maybe he is helping in the locker room. Who knows.
3)if Willard promised him two years if he got approved for the second by ncaa...Willard should honor it, karma or not.
4)if Willard never promised the second year, and his value in the locker room isn't that helpful to Willard and team...give it to an upcoming frosh with star potential. We need a legit pf/c that can play, giving a free ride to someone not deserving from his play or future play isn't how the world should work.
5)this thread is dumb because there are two things that arent even a question, if Thompson wants to be here, he will be and there will be open ship for sure.
2) it's hard to calculate Anderson's value to this team, on the court he wasn't a good pickup but maybe he is helping in the locker room. Who knows.
3)if Willard promised him two years if he got approved for the second by ncaa...Willard should honor it, karma or not.
4)if Willard never promised the second year, and his value in the locker room isn't that helpful to Willard and team...give it to an upcoming frosh with star potential. We need a legit pf/c that can play, giving a free ride to someone not deserving from his play or future play isn't how the world should work.
5)this thread is dumb because there are two things that arent even a question, if Thompson wants to be here, he will be and there will be open ship for sure.
Schools like Seton Hall, Rutgers, Fordham, might not win an NCAA championship but they are and have always been considered classy programs with integrity. Some kid might transfer but any kid from good stock would frown on the school that forces a hard working role player to transfer. You might not beat Kentucky but the last time I looked SHU had a pretty damn good academic and future career and job rating for graduates. Its what makes you guys special! But please also know that you sure have a young team and a nucleus to content for it all in a year or so if everyone returns.
By the way I see his schools are NC State, RU, SJU, Syracuse, Temple, and Xavier thus far. Most on the list recruit honestly which means SHU has a good shot at that kid. But one or two along with others who might sneak in after losing other recruits might play the game differently! But as it is SHU can get this kid based on his listed home town and SHU comp in the recruiting process.
You have to go back pretty far, I bet, where Seton Hall didn't lose a player unexpectedly either during the year or at season's end. Finding one more scholarship is at the bottom of my SHU worries for the moment.
I'm in the stay classy camp here...whatever your commitment was to him, you honor it, it's that simple. More importantly on this topic, when is Thompson deciding, what schools is he down to, and why isn't Anderson getting more run? Seems to me he has a better basketball sense than Anthony.
If you notice the people who wanted to be sleazy and tell Anderson to do away with the basketball scholarship and take an academic one instead have really stopped posting. I didn't mean to make this thread go in this direction. I want Thompson here as much as the next guy, but not at the price of a good kid who came here to get an education and play basketball. What Anderson is doing all around this year is remarkable and to suggest our coaching staff tell him he can't play basketball anymore so we can open a scholarship for someone else is just sleazy and really just wrong in my opinion.
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