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THE AMERICANS FINAL SEASON

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Does anyone else watch this show. If so just wondering what you thought of the final season & finale episode which aired last night. Personally I thought this was their best season. As you may know the show was based loosely on a family that lived in Montclair and were arrested a number of years ago as Russian spy's that had moled into American society. If anyone knows I'm curious on how the finale differed from the real life situation. What were the parents sentenced to & what happened to their children?

Tom K
 
Amazing show. Amazing, tense final season. Amazing, tense finale.

Only problem I had was what Paige did, although I understand it.

Loved the Philip and Stan scene. That's how I wanted it to play out and that's how it should have. Glad it did.

I called Renee a while ago.

Loved how this season also mirrored real life affairs within the KGB/USSR gov and military - at home and in the US - during Gorbachev's tenure.

One of the best shows I've ever seen. Right up there with The Wire for me.
 
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Amazing show. Amazing, tense final season. Amazing, tense finale.

Only problem I had was what Paige did, although I understand it.

Loved the Philip and Stan scene. That's how I wanted it to play out and that's how it should have. Glad it did.

I called Renee a while ago.

Loved how this season also mirrored real life affairs within the KGB/USSR gov and military - at home and in the US - during Gorbachev's tenure.

One of the best shows I've ever seen. Right up there with The Wire for me.


I agree. They set it up with so many possible endings but I would have never predicted the ending that they went with. In that garage standoff scene, I truly expected Elizabeth to somehow kill Stan. Over the six seasons she has become as cold blooded a killer as I can recall on any show. I liked how the plot played in to the attempt to remove Gorbachev from power. Even to the end you did not know if Philip & Elizabeth were safe in their return to Russia as we did not know if Gorbachev or the KGB/Military prevailed in the power play. As I recall in real life Gorby was under house arrest for several days before Russian President Yeltsin came out on his side ending the coup.

I have a question regarding Paige however. In her last scene after she left the train you see her going into an apartment and grabbing a drink. Where was she? In Canada hiding, back at her old apartment at the University or returned to the family home ??? I'm not sure what options she has at that point. Was she a target of the FBI in addition to her parents ?

PS: My two favorite shows are 1. Homeland and 2. the Americans. I would put Fargo in there also but i'm not sure if it is returning.

Tom K
 
I thought Paige was at the apartment of Elizabeth (and Philip's) handler.

Who I assume felt like she had to flee because Elizabeth told her that she ratted to the FBI. Even though she didn't.

Stan knew Paige was involved for sure, but I don't think the FBI did... Weird with Paige, because theoretically, she cannot go back to Henry since Stan will be watching/taking care of him. And the only reason Stan let them go, was because they were leaving the country. I think Stan would have a big problem with Paige staying in the US even without her parents to be with Henry.

I also was wondering if Elizabeth would kill Stan and if Philip and Elizabeth would be safe in Russia.

Very tense and dramatic season. Very tense and dramatic finale.

Awesome ending.
 
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I GOOGLED THIS ARTICLE BELOW ABOUT THE REAL LIFE JENNINGS FAMILY:

Accused Russian spies lived deep under cover in Montclair

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on June 28, 2010 at 9:28 PM, updated June 29, 2010 at 1:34 PM





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Star-Ledger fileTen people, including two from Montclair, have been arrested for allegedly serving as secret agents of the Russian government with the goal of penetrating U.S. government policymaking circles, the Justice Department announced today. L-R: Judge Ronald Ellis, Anna Chapman, Vicki Pelael, Cynthia Murphy, Richard Murphy (red shirt), Juan lazaro.
MONTCLAIR — He claimed to be from Philadelphia. She told of being a native New Yorker. Together they lived in New Jersey with two young daughters on a leafy street in Montclair, hoping to look like any other suburban couple living the American dream, authorities said.

But in truth, authorities say, Richard and Cynthia Murphy were highly trained spies from Russia. They encoded messages with invisible ink, brushed past co-conspirators in train stations to hand off computer memory sticks and may have even faked their marriage for the sake of gathering intelligence for Moscow, authorities said.

"You were sent to the USA for long-term service trip. Your education, bank account, car, house … all these serve one goal: fulfill your mission," the Murphys were told in a message from Russia by the contemporary equivalent of the K.G.B., according to a criminal complaint unsealed today in federal court in Manhattan.

The "Murphys" were arrested Sunday at their home in Montclair and charged along with nine others from three states in what authorities have described as a sweeping strike against a "deep cover" espionage network. It is unclear how much information the suspects successfully gathered, but authorities said they went to elaborate lengths to remain undercover for years.

The charging documents read like the pages of a Tom Clancy thriller, telling of agents spending years developing the story lines of their fake identities — or legends — to blend into American society. They often operated in pairs, passing themselves off as husband and wife at their posts in New Jersey, Boston, New York and Virginia. Some, authorities say, were assigned by Moscow to have children to complete the facade.

Their ultimate goal was to recruit sources who could infiltrate U.S. policy-making and financial circles. And their orders came directly from Russia, authorities said.

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In 2009, for instance, the foreign intelligence service in Moscow, or S.V.R, asked the Murphys to learn details of the White House’s latest position on an arms-reduction treaty, Afghanistan and Iran’s nuclear program to prepare for President Obama’s pending visit to Russia, authorities said.

"Try to outline their views and most important Obama’s goals which he expects to achieve during summit in July and how does his team plan to do it," Moscow ordered, according to the documents.

TARGET

To gather intelligence, the suspects targeted political fund raisers, congressional staffers, major think tanks, academics and others with insider access, authorities said. But the agents were wary of trying to penetrate the government themselves, nervous their cover stories may not survive the scrutiny of a background check.

To communicate with Moscow, they used "steganography" to encrypt messages into websites, wireless laptop computers and fired coded bursts of data via short-wave radio transmitter, authorities said.

"The evidence here is overwhelming. It is simple. It is strong," Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Farbiarz said during a hearing in Manhattan for the Murphys and three other suspects, who were held without bail.

The 11 suspects are charged with conspiring to act as an agent of a foreign government, which carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison. Nine, including the Murphys, are also charged with with money laundering conspiracy, which carries a 20-year maximum prison term.

The charges come four days after President Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev met in Washington and declared they had "reset" their adversarial relationship.

The probe began as early as 2000, when authorities began watching the alleged spies as they dined in New York restaurants, traded computer files wirelessly in a Times Square Starbucks, swapped bags in a Queens train station and met on benches in Central Park and Brooklyn.

"Excuse me, but did we meet in Bangkok in April last year?" was one code phrased they used to identify each other as fellow spies.

The correct reply: "I don’t know about April, but I was in Thailand in May of that year."

LIVING IN NJ

The Murphys came to the United States in the mid-1990s, living first in a Hoboken apartment. In fall of 2008, they moved to a beige two-story colonial with red shutters on Marquette Road in Montclair. Pink flowers line the brick walkway to the front door. A green four-door Honda Civic with a AAA sticker was parked in the driveway tonight.

One neighbor said he believed Richard Murphy was an architect and that Cynthia had just gotten an MBA. Another said she believed Cynthia to be an accountant.

"They’re such a nice couple," said Susan Coke, a real estate agent who handled the $481,000 sale for the home. "I spent a lot of time with them showing them houses. I just hope the FBI got it wrong,"

On several occasions, Moscow found Cynthia Murphy’s work particularly valuable. In 2009, for example, she plied financial contacts in New York to learn details of the prospective global gold market, authorities said. Richard Murphy was not always as connected. In 2004, his wife said he needed to improve his information-collection efforts and suggested he find some contacts with access to the White House.

Several of the Murphys’ neighbors said they had no clue what was going on Sunday night when FBI agents swarmed the house, arrested the couple and led their two young daughters away. The neighborhood, a largely post-war development of modest homes, is known locally as "Fieldstone." It backs onto the 16-acre Alonzo Bonsal Wildlife Preserve on Montclair’s far northern end, near Clifton.

"If there is an ‘Ozzie and Harriet’ road in Montclair, it’s Marquette," said Roberta Baldwin, a real-estate agent. "You couldn’t get more normal. You couldn’t find anything more quiet and demure."

David Rowley, who has lived on Marquette Road for seven years, said he never thought something like this would happen in his neighborhood, but he’s not all that shocked.

"It’s almost like the suburbs are the perfect cover for something like this," he said.

By Joe Ryan and Nic Corbett/The Star-Ledger
 
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The 10 Russian Spys all pleaded guilty and were then traded to Russia for 4 Americans being held in Russia for spying. The children were repatriated and joined their parents though in reality they were not Russians as the only country they ever knew was the USA.

PS: Unlike the TV family there was no indication of murders being committed in the name of the motherland or anyone else.

TK
 
Holy cow, how did I miss this show for 6 years?

The last season was fantastic and I think that was one of the best series finales I've ever seen. I think they wrapped it up perfectly in every way and I'm glad there was no bloodshed at the end. I'm not one to get mushy over a tv show but the last 20 mins or so was about as heartbreaking as it gets.
I called Renee a while ago.
So you think she was a Russian agent? It seems that way but I thought it was left open to interpretation.
PS: My two favorite shows are 1. Homeland and 2. the Americans. I would put Fargo in there also but i'm not sure if it is returning.

Tom K

I love Homeland too but I think I have to give the Americans the edge. To me Homeland is strictly a spy show, and I absolutely hate all the family crap they try to stuff in there. I hated Brodie's family, I'm mostly uninterested in Carrie's family. But the Americans was more of a family/marriage show than a spy show and it just worked perfectly.

2 other points - do you guys feel this show didn't get enough mainstream attention? I literally don't know a single person who watched it.

How awesome and fitting was the music throughout the series? If you told me the season finale would be set to With or Without You I probably would have rolled my eyes but it just all fit so perfectly and felt so powerful.
 
I really liked the Americans, just seeing this thread now.

Final season and finale were really well done. I actually expected Philip to somehow get killed or arrested in the finale, just figured that was how it was going to go down, since he had kind of soured on the whole spying thing and had really started to embrace the Western lifestyle.

Not surprised Paige got off the train, in the end America was all she knew, other than her parents really had no ties to Russia.

I also believe they left it up in the air if Renee was a spy or not.
 
Holy cow, how did I miss this show for 6 years?

The last season was fantastic and I think that was one of the best series finales I've ever seen. I think they wrapped it up perfectly in every way and I'm glad there was no bloodshed at the end. I'm not one to get mushy over a tv show but the last 20 mins or so was about as heartbreaking as it gets.

So you think she was a Russian agent? It seems that way but I thought it was left open to interpretation.

I love Homeland too but I think I have to give the Americans the edge. To me Homeland is strictly a spy show, and I absolutely hate all the family crap they try to stuff in there. I hated Brodie's family, I'm mostly uninterested in Carrie's family. But the Americans was more of a family/marriage show than a spy show and it just worked perfectly.

2 other points - do you guys feel this show didn't get enough mainstream attention? I literally don't know a single person who watched it.

How awesome and fitting was the music throughout the series? If you told me the season finale would be set to With or Without You I probably would have rolled my eyes but it just all fit so perfectly and felt so powerful.

1) I love how the show ended, and I thought the stand off in the parking garage was perfect.

2) I do think she's a Russian agent. I know the show left it up for interpretation, but very early on in her character development I thought something was fishy about her. And then when Philip and her shared a weird look with each other at some point in season 6, I was sold from that point on.

3) I stopped watching Homeland during season 2 (or 3) maybe? I thought it started to get real stale. I've heard it got really good again.

4) I work with about 200 other people, and I only know of 1 other person who watched it. They loved it as well.

5) I LOVED the music for the series.
 
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I really liked the Americans, just seeing this thread now.

Final season and finale were really well done. I actually expected Philip to somehow get killed or arrested in the finale, just figured that was how it was going to go down, since he had kind of soured on the whole spying thing and had really started to embrace the Western lifestyle.

Not surprised Paige got off the train, in the end America was all she knew, other than her parents really had no ties to Russia.

I also believe they left it up in the air if Renee was a spy or not.
I wasn't surprised either. When her parents picked her up at college, I never thought for a minute she would make it to Russia. I didn't know how she would avoid it but I never thought she was going. I thought disappearing or turning her parents in at the McDonalds was a possibility.

I binged the show over a few weeks and I think that makes it more enjoyable to watch than with all the long waits and cliffhangers.

Poor Stan.
 
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I wasn't surprised either. When her parents picked her up at college, I never thought for a minute she would make it to Russia. I didn't know how she would avoid it but I never thought she was going. I thought disappearing or turning her parents in at the McDonalds was a possibility.

I binged the show over a few weeks and I think that makes it more enjoyable to watch than with all the long waits and cliffhangers.

Poor Stan.

I basically binged the last 3 seasons. Just set my DVR and about 2/3 of the way through the seasons I'd watch 2-3 episodes at a time.
 
4) I work with about 200 other people, and I only know of 1 other person who watched it. They loved it as well.

I work at a small company and about 2-3 others watched it, I never knew if it was popular or not, but I think it was for a basic cable station based on some articles I read before and after the finale.
 
I basically binged the last 3 seasons. Just set my DVR and about 2/3 of the way through the seasons I'd watch 2-3 episodes at a time.
Thanks to you and Snake for turning me on to this show. I think this one would have went over my head if you guys didn't mention it here.
 
Thanks to you and Snake for turning me on to this show. I think this one would have went over my head if you guys didn't mention it here.

I'm also a binge watcher. I thought the give away on Rene was when she asked Stan to help her get a job with the FBI. Question is now that he's unsure of her himself how does he make sure she does not get that job yet keep harmony in the household.

By the way do any of you guys watch Sneaky Pete on Amazon. Found it interesting that both Margo Martindale & the actress who plays Martha on the Americans are also on Sneaky Pete. Also the actor who plays Oleg doubles as a Russian spy also on Homeland. In the Americans he's a good guy Russian & on Homeland a bad Russian.

Tom K
 
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I also found it interesting near the end when Philip & Elizabeth were fantasizing that they may be able to return to the US in a few years maybe out west but with the opportunity to check on their children. Of course deep down they both knew that they would never be able to return.

Also returning to Russia there is uncertainty of who was now in charge of the Kremlin & how they would be treated upon their return.

Yes, I think this was one of the great finale's in the history of TV. I don't think this show got the recognition that it deserved.

Tom K
 
By the way any Fargo fans, I just saw that they will be producing a 4th season with Chris Rock being the lead actor for the upcoming season.

TK
 
By the way any Fargo fans, I just saw that they will be producing a 4th season with Chris Rock being the lead actor for the upcoming season.

TK
I love Fargo and was disappointed they took such a long break in between Season 3 and 4. Rock seems like an interesting choice but the show is so well done that I have faith the writers will make it work.

Sneaky Pete is on my list to watch.

Anyone watch Succession? I have heard good things and will start that next.
 
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I love Fargo and was disappointed they took such a long break in between Season 3 and 4. Rock seems like an interesting choice but the show is so well done that I have faith the writers will make it work.

Sneaky Pete is on my list to watch.

Anyone watch Succession? I have heard good things and will start that next.
Three episodes into Succession and I like it a lot. Also just started Yellowstone which has been good.
 
Just seeing this thread now and I 100% agree that The Americans was outstanding. I binge watched the first three seasons just before season 4 started and then I watched the rest as they came on. The final season —and especially the final episode— was brilliant. Keri Russell’s character was one serious bad ass.

Pleased to hear that a new season of Fargo is coming. I loved that show as well. Never thought it was going to be as good as the Cohen Brothers classic film, but it came pretty damned close.
 
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Just seeing this thread now and I 100% agree that The Americans was outstanding. I binge watched the first three seasons just before season 4 started and then I watched the rest as they came on. The final season —and especially the final episode— was brilliant. Keri Russell’s character was one serious bad ass.

Pleased to hear that a new season of Fargo is coming. I loved that show as well. Never thought it was going to be as good as the Cohen Brothers classic film, but it came pretty damned close.

The third year of Fargo was good but years one and two were outstanding. The Billy Bob Thornton character was incredibly performed.

Tom K
 
Getting back to the Americans I see that they won an Emmy for best screen writing on a dramatic series. A well deserved award.

Also if anyone has watched the movie Red Sparrow starring Jennifer Lawrence or read the trilogy of novels which were the basis of the movie (the movie is volume 1 with a few twists) it becomes apparent that the Elizabeth character in the Americans is clearly a Red Sparrow. (FYI a Red Sparrow is a female Russian spy trained to use her body or any other means necessary to gather intelligence or eliminate enemies of the state) . I am currently reading volume 2 of the trilogy. While the author (a former CIA agent) concentrates on the KGB and its successor I would guess that it is not very different from spys of other nations including ours. Oddly enough the head of the Russian spy agency is a fellow named Putin - lol.

Tom K
 
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