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Rick Pitino calls system 'broken' for punishing college sports programs

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Louisville coach Rick Pitino offered support Saturday for embattled university president James Ramsey, referring to a "broken" system for punishing college sports programs.

Pitino addressed the media after the 19th-ranked Cardinals' victory Saturday over Boston College, just more than 24 hours after the school announced a self-imposed one-year postseason ban amid the NCAA's ongoing investigation into an alleged recruiting scandal.



Pitino said that Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich made the final decision to impose the penalty and that Ramsey approved the sanction.

"Let me say this -- the system is broken," Pitino said. "Please, nobody blame Dr. Ramsey. Tom Jurich made this decision."

The Cardinals improved their record to 19-4 with Saturday's victory, including 8-2 in ACC play, and would have been a lock to reach the NCAA tournament this season.

Ramsey has been the target of widespread fan criticism in the wake of the Friday's announcement. A banner that read "Ramsey is a Coward" recently was placed outside Patrick O'Shea's, a restaurant in downtown Louisville.

But Pitino urged fans to support Ramsey, saying he doesn't deserve the criticism.

"He's taken enough heat from enough places," he said. "He's done a lot for our university. He doesn't deserve this."

Pitino also recommended the NCAA adopt a system of financial punishment to sanction programs. He suggested that programs found to be in violation should pay $10 million in fines, while the coach overseeing the program in question should be fined 50 percent of his salary.

"We should be penalized, no question about it. But not this team," he said. "I believe we should be hit with a heavy, heavy financial fine. ... Where you really hit a university is their wallet. Where you really hurt a coach is his wallet."

Pitino reiterated that he thought Jurich should have been involved in the school's internal investigation, calling him "the best athletic director in all of athletics."

"If Tom had been in on the [investigation] meetings, this would've happened a month and a half ago," Pitino said.

In a book published last year, Katina Powell -- a self-described former escort -- alleged that Andre McGee, a former men's basketball staffer at Louisville, hired dancers to strip and have sex with recruits and players at Billy Minardi Hall, an on-campus dorm.

Powell also told Outside The Lines that she brought roughly two dozen women to the dorm from 2010 to 2014 and that five or six of the women had sex for money with former Louisville players, active players or recruits who were visiting the campus. Five former players and recruits also told OTL that they attended parties that included strippers paid for by McGee.

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Is it fair to kids like Damion Lee? No, not at all. But Pitino conveniently forget the role his management of his programs play in these situations. Simply stated: don't arrange prostitution parties for recruits, and no one has to miss the postseason. He did this to those kids, not U of L administration or the NCAA. This is all on him. Imagine the nerve of this guy shifting blame around like a shell game. It's not on Ramsey or Jurich - it's on Rick Pitino.

At least that's my brief take.
 
Work for free?! He should be fired and paid zero. No chance that he did not know what was going on.
 
It's unAmerican to penalize the innocent and that's what the NCAA does with this stuff. Take it out on the coaches with suspensions, massive fines, whatever. Take it out on the future of the program by rescinding scholarships.
 
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Yes, the system is broken. Otherwise, with Pitino's history, Louisville should have fired him. Frank

My penalty would have been
1. Fire Pitino and ban him from coaching for 3 years.
2. Fine the school $150 million.
3. Take away 3 BB scholarships for 2 years.
 
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It's unAmerican to penalize the innocent and that's what the NCAA does with this stuff. Take it out on the coaches with suspensions, massive fines, whatever. Take it out on the future of the program by rescinding scholarships.
In this case it wasn't the NCAA that punished the innocent. At least not this particular group of players.

Of course down the road when (and not if) the penalty comes down that group of players will pay the price if more than one year is deemed worthy.

Obviously Louisville did what they did in the hopes of getting a reduced penalty and of course to save a recruiting season by penalizing current players as opposed to future ones.
 
The NCAA hasn't punished anyone yet. This is the self imposed penalty before they meet with the NCAA infractions committee. Have to believe there is very credible proof of violations if the University took this self imposed penalty. Pitino should shut up and thank his good fortune they haven't fired him.
 
Those proposed penalties would be a slap on the wrist for Louisville and pitino. The only thing that was unfair was what Louisville did by screwing the current players. It would have been much more fair if they just went through the NCAA process and accepted the penalties handed down. Most likely the penalties would be announced during the offseason , and the effected players and recruits would have the opportunity to transfer out.
 
I'll bet the Duke student section let him have it last night. Poor guy.
 
It's unAmerican to penalize the innocent and that's what the NCAA does with this stuff. Take it out on the coaches with suspensions, massive fines, whatever. Take it out on the future of the program by rescinding scholarships.

So if coaches get bonuses for NCAA appearances, etc... Isn't this "taking it out on the coaches"?

It's the program at fault, it's the school at fault... The program and school are getting punished.

Don't want to get punished, don't do shady shit.
 
Is it fair to kids like Damion Lee? No, not at all. But Pitino conveniently forget the role his management of his programs play in these situations. Simply stated: don't arrange prostitution parties for recruits, and no one has to miss the postseason. He did this to those kids, not U of L administration or the NCAA. This is all on him. Imagine the nerve of this guy shifting blame around like a shell game. It's not on Ramsey or Jurich - it's on Rick Pitino.

At least that's my brief take.

Yep - totally with you on this.
 
So, in what year is UNC going to get punished for all that academic fraud they committed from years past? Or that's right, Swafford who was the AD at UNC when all that occurred is the commissioner of the ACC now. The NCAA is such a joke.
 
Obviously this is self-imposed, but this type of discipline is also modus operandi for the NCAA as well.

So if coaches get bonuses for NCAA appearances, etc... Isn't this "taking it out on the coaches"?

It's the program at fault, it's the school at fault... The program and school are getting punished.

Don't want to get punished, don't do shady shit.

Right, so punish the program. The NCAA punishes the players. Remove scholarships. You want to discipline a program? Make them field an incomplete roster in the future. Fine them so badly that it actually hurts them. That keeps the innocent players out of it.

Why punish the current players? I believe you can segregate the two.
 
So, in what year is UNC going to get punished for all that academic fraud they committed from years past? Or that's right, Swafford who was the AD at UNC when all that occurred is the commissioner of the ACC now. The NCAA is such a joke.
And that is the name of that tune!!! And the route of the problem.
 
Pitino should not be allowed to discuss this as there is an ongoing NCAA investigation. But he and most folks in the know understand the lack of power the NCAA now has and use the media to make themselves look good. And the media eats it up because they are their partners in crime. Yes the system is broken in so many ways. And Swoffard is the biggest offender and leader of the charge to leave the NCAA behind.
 
He is as shady as they come, both on and off the court. It's all a farce imo. To have Pitino trying to stand on a soapbox and preach how rigged the system is comical. You are a big part of the problem Rick...unfortunately there is way too much $ involved for anything to be done about it. Truly sad.
 
The NCAA hasn't punished anyone yet. This is the self imposed penalty before they meet with the NCAA infractions committee. Have to believe there is very credible proof of violations if the University took this self imposed penalty. Pitino should shut up and thank his good fortune they haven't fired him.
Yea what the hell is Pitino talking about? What system? Louisville imposed this penalty on its own current players. It's like showing up for jail and complaining about the conditions when the judge hasn't even sentenced you yet.
 
Rick, the quintessential hypocrite " is using the infamous Plan B , which is generally " someone else did it " or " the penalty hurts the wrong people ". You could see this coming at his initial press conference when he turned it into its all about the players not about the fact that players and a U of L employee engaged in criminal conduct, solicitation for the purposes of prostitution.

What Pitino or others who have jumped on his bandwagon have judiciously avoided talking about is that there is a very simple solution to the issue of players not playing in the tourney or for FB players in a bowl game and it's a simple one. Don't Cheat ! Don't Break The Rules ! Don't Engage In Criminal Activity ! And Run A Clean Program!
 
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1st of all Pitino is right the system is broken regardless of your opinion on the penalties. If Slick Rick doesn't want to punish the innocent people I'm clearly in favor of that, but along those lines you have to punish those involved. Give back your national championship and give back the proceeds of all your national championship bonuses and merchandise. Although that would make Michigan national champs, ouch that hurts to say
 
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Slick Rick said what?
 
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Rick just listed one of his homes for sale in Florida. You can get it for around 24million. Run don't walk!
 
Just yesterday, in NH Donald Trump was asked about the Louisville self imposed ban. He referred to Slick Rick as a :
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Of course one of the programs with the most disposable income would prefer a financial penalty over a post season ban.

Obviously no one likes to lose money but if the penalties were strictly monetary it wouldn’t stop the Rockefeller’s of college basketball from breaking the rules to gain a competitive advantage.
 
Is it fair to kids like Damion Lee? No, not at all. But Pitino conveniently forget the role his management of his programs play in these situations. Simply stated: don't arrange prostitution parties for recruits, and no one has to miss the postseason. He did this to those kids, not U of L administration or the NCAA. This is all on him. Imagine the nerve of this guy shifting blame around like a shell game. It's not on Ramsey or Jurich - it's on Rick Pitino.

At least that's my brief take.

That was rather hasty, no? (An instrumental version of Scenes from an Italian Restaurant plays softly in the background).
 
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The system has treated Pitino very well. He coaches an "amateur" sport yet is selling one of his homes for $25M.
 
I wonder why nobody in the media is doing any investigative journalism to find out how much Pitino actually knew about his recruiting brothel. (Does anyone actually believe the alpha dog didn't know what was going on in his own backyard?)
 
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