Think we could have used a little bit of this
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honestly, if you didnt want him back youre a moron. no other way around it. and this is coming from a guy who wasnt on the Auda bandwagon.
The Auda you see on the video is the Auda I saw every time I watched him play in leagues away from SHU.
Add to that he was the leading scorer on his national team that played in many word wide events and I'll continue to say the Pat Auda SHU fans saw was not the same player I saw.
His role was diminished on our the team and he never played with the confidence he did away from Pirateville. Does he deserve part of that blame? Yes he does. But all of it? I don't think so.
Pat is a very intelligent player who moves well without the ball. But he did little in our offense but help break the press in the backcourt and set high post screens for the guards. His talents were never used to the max IMO and that will always upset me.
Add to that he was the leading scorer on his national team that played in many word wide events and I'll continue to say the Pat Auda SHU fans saw was not the same player I saw.
His role was diminished on our the team and he never played with the confidence he did away from Pirateville. Does he deserve part of that blame? Yes he does. But all of it? I don't think so.
Pat is a very intelligent player who moves well without the ball. But he did little in our offense but help break the press in the backcourt and set high post screens for the guards. His talents were never used to the max IMO and that will always upset me.
It is nonsense to blame the coach for failing to get the most out of a player? Job #1 for a college coach is player development. Take a freshman and improve him over the course of 4 years. Take a team collectively and improve their play as the season goes on. The whole idea of a coach and staff is to make sure the holes in a player's game are addressed.
I am glad to see Patrik is doing well playing professionally overseas and I'm happy for him. I wish he had stayed with us for his last season, but understand why he would decide to begin his pro career.
I viewed the clips, and personally did not see any "more" athleticism on the video. With us, I found him to be a fine athlete with a reasonably good first step which is what the youtube clip shows.
Not everything needs to be a referendum on his personal development or how his development was positively or negatively impacted by his circumstances. If there were three clips of him making unforced errors my opinions of him would not change. Can we let these clips stand for what they are - nice plays by a nice guy?
This post was edited on 4/2 11:27 AM by knowknow456
I viewed the clips, and personally did not see any "more" athleticism on the video. With us, I found him to be a fine athlete with a reasonably good first step which is what the youtube clip shows.
Not everything needs to be a referendum on his personal development or how his development was positively or negatively impacted by his circumstances. If there were three clips of him making unforced errors my opinions of him would not change. Can we let these clips stand for what they are - nice plays by a nice guy?
This post was edited on 4/2 11:27 AM by knowknow456
The whole idea of a coach and staff is to make sure the holes in a player's game are addressed.
True but it's up to the player to actually address them.
To answer Dan's question, the major holes in Pat's game that were correctable were his outside shot and his inability to use his right hand.
Like I said before, Pat would have definitely helped this year. He would have added the front line toughness and senior leadership we desperately needed.
True but it's up to the player to actually address them.
To answer Dan's question, the major holes in Pat's game that were correctable were his outside shot and his inability to use his right hand.
Like I said before, Pat would have definitely helped this year. He would have added the front line toughness and senior leadership we desperately needed.
The frustrating thing for me about Pat is that he never got comfortable shooting the three in the BE. And I don't think he ever would have. He was certainly closer to the agile athlete in his last year. I guy I work with who is a HS ref and played ball in college saw him play at St Rose and still calls him the shooter if he comes up in conversation. But I fear the BE game intimidated him a little mentally and he never let himself get comfortable. And his sitting back and watching upper classmen lead us when they were taking us nowhere also frustrates, though that is probably not his fault but the mgmt...
IMHO the athleticism here looks like Auda's days at SHU, but I detect two differences:
1, Auda's aggressiveness. At SHU Patrik did not seem to want to be "pushy".
2. The speed and athleticism of the competition. I see very little in the defense's reactions that reminds me of Big East play.
Oh what might have been....
I agree with the right hand comment. The first time I saw Pat play (he had an awesome game in the East Orange pro/am league before he ever suited up at the Hall) that stood out to me immediately.
I was a little disappointed that in his 4 years at the Hall the right hand didn't improve as much as I would have liked.
Regarding his shooting. He was not a bad long range shooter, especially as a power forward (11-33 33% as a senior) just a cautious one. Away from Seton Hall Auda was very good from the arc. In his last national tournament in China before his final season at the Hall Pat hit 50% of his long range shots while leading his team in scoring. And the FIBA line is longer than the NCAA line.
It just wasn't a role that he was expected to play at the Hall and because of that he shied away from taking many attempts.
What I really liked about Auda was his ability to adapt to what was asked of him. All coaches love having players who have great offensive efficiency without having to have the ball in their hands.
In Pat's last season he averaged 9.6 PPG on 53.6% shooting from the field and 75.8% from the line in 24.4 MPG. Excellent numbers.
Auda also did many things that do not show up in the stats on both sides of the court. Pat Auda is not a great player, but he's a very good one. The kind every team must have to be successful.
I remember a game at Umass during Pat's freshman year. Pat played some meaningful minutes in that game & the crowd got on him pretty good. He was not intimidated in the least bit & he shut the crowd up when iced 2 foul shots in the closing minutes. He had a mental toughness that I think would have helped us this past year.
His dream was to play professionally in Europe. He was older than most rising seniors and there was the fear of future injury to his foot so Pat decided it was time to pursue his dream.
He's doing that now and when his BB career is over he is set up to work in finance and maybe even come back here some day and work on Wall Street.
He's doing that now and when his BB career is over he is set up to work in finance and maybe even come back here some day and work on Wall Street.
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