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Really frustrating to watch what unfolded Sunday. I knew it was a potential trap game, since Siena plays hard and Carm Maciarello had good success against Sha last year. Add that to a 5pm consolation on the last day of the trip and you have to be laser focused. We were anything but that. Watching that game literally had my stomach in knots. My wife asked why I put myself through that. She knows the game, and it was hard for her to watch. We started out well, and trust me, Siena was on their heels and a little intimidated. But we let them back in with that run they went on, because they played harder, we never once put a body on someone to block out on defensive glass, they dug out 50/50 balls, and we carelessly threw away passes possession after possession. I counted at least 4 straight possessions where we never got a shot off. They gained confidence, and we looked like we wanted to be anywhere but there. I could feel Sha's pain. He was watching a disastrous game unfolding, and literally could do nothing to stop it.

I'll double down on what I posted last week. This is a team that in its construction, is redundant and not well designed. You have a group of good sized athletic wings, but very little skill and three point shooting, and a dubious hoops IQ and feel for the game. Add that to no true point guard or low post presence, and the on court play has to be flawless for this team to be successful. Either that, or you find a way to impose your will on the opponent, and actually turn these games into street fights for 40 minutes. We have to value the ball and each possession, and communicate more effectively on switches and rotations defensively in the half court. and for goodness sake, please box out. Watching the ragged and sloppy play up and down the court reminded me of some of the games at IS8 back in the day.

I think Femi and Dawes play hard. That's not in question. And when he was active, so did Dre Davis. Samuel has been good at both ends, but it appears he can get fatigued at times by the wear and tear. He still needs to be on the floor more. Yetna is a big loss. He could have single handedly willed this team to victory on Sunday if he was healthy by finishing around the rim and preventing second chance points. But what do all our players really provide? I think Richmond lacks a true position and is miscast as a ball handler. He is a strong, athletic wing who could be a lockdown defender but isn't proficient offensively and has a poor assist to turnover ratio. Too many careless, risky passes. You'd have to hide him offensively. Tray Jackson lacks the skill level and lateral movement to be a full time wing, and is not strong enough to play the post. Right now, he's your backup 5. Jamir Harris has had his moments, but had a game to forget Sunday. Very up and down from game to game. Against Siena, he didn't appear to be able to catch, dribble, or pass and his shot was absent. Tae Davis will be very good at some point, but he's being forced into a major role early in his career so it will take time. Femi is in the Richmond mold, but he's a better +/- kid and he is more consistent in his effort and protecting the ball. Dawes is an energizer type who can hit the three and find ways to score. More of a two guard in a point guard frame, but could be a lead guard with support. Ndefo is a try hard kid who will defend multiple positions, but can't be given too much freedom offensively. He's also closer to 6'5 than his listed 6'7 btw. And as a side note, I coached against Ndefo's little brother this summer. Think he's a 2024. About the same size, maybe a bit bigger, but more a true wing and ridiculously athletic. Sha would be wise to recruit him.

What it all adds up to is a team that really has to lock down defensively and communicate well on that end, protect the defensive backboard at all costs, and value the ball and possessions much more. The on court product won't always be pretty, but they can find a way to win games. Our assistant coaches will have to work overtime on the skill and drill, and really teaching the game from fundamentals on up. It's not hopeless, but it will take a lot of work. I also think Sha had to recruit on the fly, and chemistry can be difficult with so many new faces. Not sure what is going on internally with this team, and that could have an effect moving forward, but I hope they work it out and find their footing. Sha is a guy that has played and coached at a high level, so he knows what it takes to win. But the Big East is essentially the equivalent of a Power 5 conference most years, and kids have to accept roles and be able to bring a particular skill or skillset that helps us win. Guards win a lot of games at this level, and I'm not sure we have a kid who can create a shot and get a big bucket when we need it, or can put the team on their shoulders for a stretch. As much as the Kansas game is on everyone's minds, the true litmus test for what this season will be is the Rutgers game. They are an extremely well coached, tough physical team that knows how to play. The last few years, they've only had a few offensive weapons like Harper and Omeruyi, but they find a way to win games. That's kind of the model for us this year. So I'm interested to see how that game goes. Hoping we can get this turned around, because this is such a passionate fan base that deserves a winner.
 
Good summary.KW didn't leave us with much (probably one of the reasons he left) and Sha had to piece together what he could from transfer market.Add the chemistry challenge of mixing the old and new groups all of whom want to play significant minutes.Feels like a tough year.
 
I personally see a team that can be very good defensively, but will struggle badly on offense. We just do not have good offensive players or a system that creates efficient shots. I still think this is an NCAA-level team, but that won't happen without a truly elite defense. We will see.
 
Excellent OP. Coach 107 nailed it. I don't think we have enough height/bulk to be very good defensively at the moment. Hopefully when Yetna returns. Anyone know the status of Ndiaye?
 
No point guard is a huge problem. I had hoped Richmond or Dawes could handle that but so far they have both been very erratic and at times out of control and careless with the ball.

And we have no low post presence.

The defense is good but we don't have that go to guy who can get a bucket when we need it.
 
I see no reason so far to think we wil be a good offensive, defensive or rebounding team. Things can change and hope I am wrong.

defense, guards get to the basket against us at will it seems. Post d very average. Everyone gets open threes against us. offense, (John McKay was talking about OUR execution) good shots not created often. Put your head down and drive. I coached rec ball where we had no time to teach much and the way we play is familiar to me...The main post guy still doesnt play the post well. We are missing chippies once again. It is not like this is new. It was an epidemic two years ago. Ikey's O got worse over time here. Lets not rue the old big man coaches leaving. Been a problem for years How often has Raf talked about getting the puppies organized? But we still finish weakly.

If I were coach, I am riding Kadary and Dawes in the backcourt. Not crazy with how either is playing but the best option still for me. Gotta play Ty. No clue about the other two spots. I think KC and Femi are the two best players left, but not sure our low functioning offense is the place for them to be together. Mass sub = mass groan...

But most importantly, the team needs to reassess, both players and staff. Cant remember seeing one of our teams and fearing the staff has completely lost the team.

Thank god for the Devils.

I pruned some plants over the weekend, and the rose bushes still had some flowers...it is never too late...
 
Holloway needs to adjust and settle into roles, IMO. I don’t know what the issue is between him and Richmond, but something is up there. Holloway had a rough time when Amaker took over the program so he’s been through this as a player.

Lineup musings:

**Need Richmond/Samuel to be Copeland/Whitney. They need to be our guys. They don’t come out unless it’s a temporary breather here or there and we ride them. That will settle two critical spots. They are two who have the ability to be great/elite efficiency-wise. And Richmond had many good games last year, not just UConn guys.

**I also think Dre Davis should be in that group at the 4. Start there. Start by settling some positions.

**Odukale and Dawes are good players, but complementary. Femi doesn’t given us enough on offense, but I’d start him at the 3 bc he does a lot of “glue guy” stuff and can guard multiple positions, handles the ball well. Dawes is dominating the minutes and the ball too much, IMO. He’s exposed at this usage rate and the turnovers show it. He can slide over at times when we feature Richmond in different ways.

**I also think Ndefo is being exposed too much right now on offense. He can come in with Jackson off the bench because Jackson gives us nothing defensively and Ndefo can help there, but Jackson gives us way more offensively than Ndefo.

**Harris is a rotation guard off the bench; disappointingly inconsistent for a 5th year guy in all facets of the game.
 
100% agree.

Richmond Samuel Jackson and Dre Davis should all be playing a lot more minutes than they are getting and during crunch time. We are less likely to go in scoring droughts with most of those players on the court.

Give them confidence. You want leaders let them lead by giving them minutes, then they might be more vocal with the other guys.

Dawes, Harris, Ndefo, Femi, Tae Davis should be playing less they currently are.

Dawes should get his minutes but not way more than Richmond Dre and Samuel especially. He also shouldn’t be dribbling so much. Move the ball dude, I thought Aiken was bad, zero assists?

Only person who should take his man (besides after getting the D off balanced with good ball movement on a break, or with a mismatch) is Richmond or Samuel. Dawes turns the ball over too much and doesn’t pass enough yet.

Sanders is where he is until he gets in shape and is at his peak knowing the defense. If he stays, he could be an impact guy off the bench next year.

Starters (and 28 plus minutes and during crunch time) should be

Richmond
Dawes
Dre Davis
Samuel, period.

The 5th guy can be Femi, Ndefo, Jackson depending on size of team we are playing and how well they are playing. I would go with Ndefo to start to set defensive tone.

Harris, Femi should just be giving Dawes and Richmond breathers. When Harris is in, run a set shot play for him like the mustached wonder on St. Peters that just got ejected at Bryant college. When Femi or Ndefo is in, push the defensive intensity.

Have Tae spell either Ndefo/Femi or Dre. Or Jackson when he slides over to 5. He is getting way too many minutes in 2nd half during crunch time. He gives nothing in half court offense.

The pattern is alarming, we have a good lead or at least playing well and we start hockey subbing and we get blown out of the water with huge runs. Stop doing it Sha!

Whatever the deal is with Richmond, work it out, you need eachother. Put him in position to win. Whatever gripe you have already lost us the Sienna game. Don’t let it fester.
 
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It'll be very concerning if we come out vs Kansas with the same lineup and same mass subs.

I would play Jackson more because of his offensive upside. Get him out of the 5 spot on the 2nd team. That is one thing that is just not working. Without him and Richmond getting their offense going, I don't see how this team has any chance to be good. That was my view before the season started and nothing in the first few weeks has changed my mind.
 
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Last few posts have been on the money. Richmond/Dawes/Dre/Jackson/Samuel is a winning lineup. How about start with running some pick and roll with Samuel. He doesn't always have to get in the post and back his man down. He is athletic enough that he can roll quickly. Run an ally oop once and awhile. Run some pick and pop with Trey to get him going. Dre/Richmond are better post players so let them go to work and kick out to Dawes if he is open. Simple plays win bball games. Along with good defense of course.
 
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Nice post Coach 107 and good analysis of what we’ve seen to date . In your post you talked about team chemistry and how Sha had to recruit on the fly and how that contributed to the lack of chemistry we’re seeing on the court. With free agency and reliance on transfers becoming a major factor in recruiting coaches are going to have deal not only with transfers coming in but also with players transferring out and creating team chemistry becomes a challenge that good coaches solve.
 
Richmond makes plays. He’s not a conventional PG but he is a playmaker. For a team that was literally amongst the worst in the nation in A:FGM last year, Richmond was 49th in the country in assist rate (30.8). He was 2nd in the BE within league games (33.5).

This year he’s at 30.8 and even better – 44.4 – against the top tier teams we’ve played. The next closest is Femi at 22. I mean, c’mon. It’s not even close. Even on Sunday he had 4 of our 10 assists in 18 minutes before Holloway benched him. He’s also done well this year with fouls draw and steal %, which he did well last year too.
 
Looks like we could lose up to seven players from this team for next year & still no new recruits especialy a big man. Who is doing the recruiting?
 
Yeah a whole bunch of Benjamins in an unmarked duffel should be doing the recruiting.
It was easier for us then, lol. The NIL has formalized funding which is killing us because we’re asleep at the switch as a school.
 
OP says "...I think Richmond lacks a true position and is miscast as a ball handler. He is a strong, athletic wing who could be a lockdown defender but isn't proficient offensively and has a poor assist to turnover ratio...."

Amazingly, we have 3 players with positive asst/TO ratio. Kadary, Harris and femi. fwiw

I happen to see Kadary clearly as our best player, and as a PG who is playing way under his ability. I think he is the only potential difference maker. He makes bad passes too frequently so far, and so do most of the guys. Nothing about his play recently stands out, but earlier he made a number of real sparklers. Maybe cause the offense goes nowhere and they are not buying in he just cant fogure out what to do. We play like we dont think what we do works. A player not buying in is one thing, but I dont see it centered on anyone. I see a team of unbelievers.

I see a team that doesnt believe in its leadership so far. Cant say the way we play inspires me either. Our offense is a mess and our defense is weak from top to bottom. I dont think we are as bad as we showed the other night. But after our horrible second half vs OK, giving away the early lead then falling apart may be very telling.
 
I just don't know how we are going to lock down defensively. All teams have to do is get the ball down into the post to a Sanogo, Kaulkbrenner, Nunge type of player and we have no answer. I know our guys are playing way too fast for themselves right now, but I think they need to get comfortable playing this fast maybe faster. When I watched the Oklahoma game and they slowed it down and it became a half court game the OU lead went from 6 to 15 real quick. We're not strong in the half court on either end. Is the answer push the pace make it into an uncomfortable pace for both teams and let's hope this style works for us because other teams aren't used to it. I struggle to see how we lock down defensively on teams with a couple bigs who like to play inside. Are we going to collapse and leave the perimeter open? Are we going to play straight up? Are we going to go zone? Maybe throw some variations of defenses out there?
 
After the incredible St. Peter's run and all the ensuing hoopla that followed, many here set the bar much too high for Shaheen.
For sure, but I also think evaluating him after a handful of games is a fool's errand. He's a lot different than Willard and it's going to take some time for it to set ... if it even does. (I'm confident, but nothing is ever guaranteed). It's fine to check in after a full season, as it's a convenient milepost, but even then, I don't think this program will be what he wants it to be. I think it's going to be a case of having to go backwards in order to go forward.
 
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OP says "...I think Richmond lacks a true position and is miscast as a ball handler. He is a strong, athletic wing who could be a lockdown defender but isn't proficient offensively and has a poor assist to turnover ratio...."

Amazingly, we have 3 players with positive asst/TO ratio. Kadary, Harris and femi. fwiw

I happen to see Kadary clearly as our best player, and as a PG who is playing way under his ability. I think he is the only potential difference maker. He makes bad passes too frequently so far, and so do most of the guys. Nothing about his play recently stands out, but earlier he made a number of real sparklers. Maybe cause the offense goes nowhere and they are not buying in he just cant fogure out what to do. We play like we dont think what we do works. A player not buying in is one thing, but I dont see it centered on anyone. I see a team of unbelievers.

I see a team that doesnt believe in its leadership so far. Cant say the way we play inspires me either. Our offense is a mess and our defense is weak from top to bottom. I dont think we are as bad as we showed the other night. But after our horrible second half vs OK, giving away the early lead then falling apart may be very telling.
Lockdown defender?? His lateral footspeed is too slow
 
For sure, but I also think evaluating him after a handful of games is a fool's errand. He's a lot different than Willard and it's going to take some time for it to set ... if it even does. (I'm confident, but nothing is ever guaranteed). It's fine to check in after a full season, as it's a convenient milepost, but even then, I don't think this program will be what he wants it to be. I think it's going to be a case of having to go backwards in order to go forward.
Your last statement is very possible.

i have nothing to do so I rewatched a couple games from the later part of last season including Creighton. Couple thoughts.

Richmond— Willard had him playing at a pace he was comfortable at. Not sure if what Sha wants is too fast. Also, this is his 3rd coach in three years and everyone had a different style.

Rhoden, Cale and Yetna were tough as nails. Yetna’s return will make a difference and he can’t get back fast enough.

How about a few ball screens for Harris at the top of the key.

Tyrese— we need him down low but it’s so obvious he does better as a face up big. Hopefully when Yetna returns, he can return to his more natural position.

Jackson is a 2- guard who can help on offense. But we simply need more from him given he is our only other guy with height. So far he played better last year.

Willards offense has always been to set up ISO situations for your best guys to make plays. And for the most part it worked. We don’t have that guy so far this year plus, that’s not Sha’s style. But at some point we have to get some of those guys.

I’m all in on Sha and this year’s team regardless how year #1 plays out.
 
This is a long season but currently it's not looking good....hearing some players are not into the new way things are run. So the question is if this season is going to be bad what makes next year any better? Especially without an NIL or impact recruits?
 
A few things…
1. I think too many of us are expecting too much from Yetna. Still a possibility he does not return & he hasn’t played/practices in at least 6 months.

2. Play the Davis brothers. Dre has been one of if not our best player this year. At times Tae has looked pretty good. Might as well play the young kid. We’re in for a long season.

3. In today’s game you need a scoring point guard. It’s a must. Kadary is not the answer, but unfortunately he is probably our best pg. Kadary & Sha have to settle their differences and work things out.

4. I think most of us knew it was going to take time to learn new system, adjust, figure our rotations, but I am most disappointed in the product on the court. We look poorly coached and dysfunctional.

5. We’re going to be 6-5 after the non conference with a win over a D2 team and prayer against Memphis. This isn’t a ncaa tournament team, but hopefully we can compete and possibly make the NIT. Temper your expectations.
 
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It'll be very concerning if we come out vs Kansas with the same lineup and same mass subs.

I would play Jackson more because of his offensive upside. Get him out of the 5 spot on the 2nd team. That is one thing that is just not working. Without him and Richmond getting their offense going, I don't see how this team has any chance to be good. That was my view before the season started and nothing in the first few weeks has changed my mind.
Agreed. And using Jackson at the 5/4 takes away the one thing he has been pretty solid at - shooting 3’s (40% last year). He is just not strong enough when he tries to take the ball inside. Agree with everyone else on Richmond - Sha needs to figure him out and get him back playing big minutes.
 
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This is a long season but currently it's not looking good....hearing some players are not into the new way things are run. So the question is if this season is going to be bad what makes next year any better? Especially without an NIL or impact recruits?
IMO…next year won’t be better.
 
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IMO…next year won’t be better.
Gonna be worse and at this rate sha will be looked at as a disaster hire if it continues(not his fault) Same with our AD. (Which I think he is) But where is the NIL, where are the plans for the basketball facility and where are the damn gray Jerseys?
 
For sure, but I also think evaluating him after a handful of games is a fool's errand. He's a lot different than Willard and it's going to take some time for it to set ... if it even does. (I'm confident, but nothing is ever guaranteed). It's fine to check in after a full season, as it's a convenient milepost, but even then, I don't think this program will be what he wants it to be. I think it's going to be a case of having to go backwards in order to go forward.
All we can do is evaluate this season. It is bad in every way so far imo.

It kills me to type that, kills me more to
believe it. I am a fan of sha for 20some yrs.
 
All we can do is evaluate this season. It is bad in every way so far imo.

It kills me to type that, kills me more to
believe it. I am a fan of sha for 20some yrs.
But let’s do it when the season is over. Let’s not get too high during the good times and too low during the bad times. Hoping this team has a moment where they drag Kansas into a rock fight and we escape with a W like we did when no one thought we could beat MD after being torched by RU.
 
Lockdown defender?? His lateral footspeed is too slow

Lovkdown not my word but i disagree with so many who says his d is bad
Richmond isn't a great positional defender but he uses his wingspan to great effect. He led the team in steals last year and also so far this season.

Similarly he led Syracuse in steals his one year there and did so in far fewer minutes than any of their other rotation players.
 
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We complain about not having a true point guard.Our options are Richmond,Dawes,Harris and Femi.Richmond wins that competition and its not even close.We need to get over his mistakes and let him run the show.
 
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Richmond isn't a great positional defender but he uses his wingspan to great effect. He led the team in steals last year and also so far this season.

Similarly he led Syracuse in steals his one year there and did so in far fewer minutes than any of their other rotation players.
Last year, he was 7th in the conference in defensive box plus minus and 3rd in defensive rating. He doesn’t lock his own man down, but his length causes major problems for other teams. He’s an excellent defender.
 
We haven’t had a true PG since the great Madison Jones, yet we’ve had plenty of 20 win seasons. You can accomplish a solid year without a true PG.
Sometimes I wonder what people mean by “true pg.”. A really short guy that passes more than he shoots? Not many of those around these days.
 
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Sometimes I wonder what people mean by “true pg.”. A really short guy that passes more than he shoots? Not many of those around these days.
Tyler Kolek from Marquette is one. Not short but makes their offense run and now developing into a better shooter.
 
We haven’t had a true PG since the great Madison Jones, yet we’ve had plenty of 20 win seasons. You can accomplish a solid year without a true PG.
A 20 win season isn’t a good measure anymore with the amount of games played nowadays.

NCAA Tournament appearances and conference record are much better indicators and we’ve done well there without a true PG.
 
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