My Friday humor...don't be offended. Have no idea if new Twitter culture will be successful, but for those who stay or are hired, this is what you sign up for. Someone who acts quickly, with no filter, that has a track record for innovation and success. There is a certain person that will be attracted to that. It doesn't sound like you would be one of them and that's fine. I'm not sure he would be my cup of tea either, but he's not recruiting either of us.
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Where were you when thousands of Americans were getting laid off for not taking a jab? Why weren't you vocal then? I obviously see your bias...
One last thing about Musk, I totally respect his business acumen. Although the Twitter purchase looks dumb to me. However, I hear people compare him to Steve Jobs which is an utterly a ridiculous comparison. Steve Jobs is the co-founder of the best and biggest company in the world. It is his vision that created some of the most important and best computer products that we have. Steve Jobs is a true genius who revolutionized not only the world of computers, I will say the world today.
Remember he also saw a guy working drawing pictures in a cartoon one day. He saw what could be done and fostered and financed that man to keep going and to make a story and a movie. That became Pixar movies.
Musk is not the founder of the Tesla EV. He just bought into it and then I believe ousted the founders of Tesla who are actually the true geniuses. The true geniuses are Martin Eberhard and Martin Tarppening. They are the ones who invented the Tesla roadster.
I will give credit to Musk for founding Space X who had the vision of reusable space rockets. He had vision and actually hired some of the best and brightest to achieve his vision. But people need to stop with the comparison to Steve Jobs.
Remember he also saw a guy working drawing pictures in a cartoon one day. He saw what could be done and fostered and financed that man to keep going and to make a story and a movie. That became Pixar movies.
Musk is not the founder of the Tesla EV. He just bought into it and then I believe ousted the founders of Tesla who are actually the true geniuses. The true geniuses are Martin Eberhard and Martin Tarppening. They are the ones who invented the Tesla roadster.
I will give credit to Musk for founding Space X who had the vision of reusable space rockets. He had vision and actually hired some of the best and brightest to achieve his vision. But people need to stop with the comparison to Steve Jobs.
That said, if you are giving credit to Jobs for Pixar then you have to give quite a bit of credit to Musk as well for Tesla since he contributed almost all of their initial VC funding and guided some of their major initial design decisions. He was far more involved in Tesla than Jobs was at Pixar.
Without that advancement space travel was pretty much dead for the foreseeable future. Elon provided a path forward. Looking back 100 years from now, that advancement that may have no impact on humanity or it may have a gigantic impact.
and this stuff is just incredible to watch.
I wouldn't put him on the same level as jobs today. He could get there though.
Comparing Musk and Jobs is like comparing Tom Brady and Derek Jeter. I’m not sure I even buy into the idea of comparing business leaders/innovators. Each is so unique. Always interesting to find out what drives them and makes them tick. Can’t forget why this country has spawned so many great entrepreneurial geniuses. These are true visionaries…most of us have no idea what the see. Doesn’t guarantee success and but most have the ability to learn and move on quickly from failure.
Here is the difference. Pixar is a small part of Steve Jobs success. Tesla is the reason why we even know Musk’s name. Hell, the real genius is Tesla and I mean Nicolo Tesla. Now that’s one unbelievable mind.
Compare what Musk had to do with Tesla and what Jobs did with Apple - not only once but twice. No comparison at all. Jobs is true genius. One that come around once every 100 years or so.
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It’s not?
That's fair, I am hedging a bit that it is possible that we look back in 30-40 years in the same regard for Musk due to his impacts in space exploration and climate change. Though also entirely possible he abandons everything for Twitter and meme wars instead... So I'm not entirely bought in.
Is that how you are judging? By revenue? Hmm. Walmart has almost 40% more revenue yet Apple has more than 80% more profit. Yet you want to measure by revenue? Strange choice don’t you think.
Yeah, but never heard Fortune 500 used for company size. Profitability or strength, absolutely.
Apple: #7
Based on 4 criteria, not just one.
Based on 4 criteria, not just one.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/14/ama...about-10000-employees-starting-this-week.html
More tech layoffs...Amazon 10,000 starting this week, right before the holiday's?
More tech layoffs...Amazon 10,000 starting this week, right before the holiday's?
"At 2 a.m. on Wednesday, Musk sent an email to all Twitter employees telling them to be 'extremely hardcore' and work “long hours at high intensity,” the Washington Post reported."
Very Muskian.
Years ago we implemented tighter controls and productivity measurements on people. It was welcomed by the high performers.
Very Muskian.
Years ago we implemented tighter controls and productivity measurements on people. It was welcomed by the high performers.
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Honestly good for the workers. These companies will squeeze blood from a stone and discard loyal workers without a 2nd thought.
It's all about culture and the type of people you want to attract. This is not unusual for innovative companies that are trying to accomplish lofty goals with short term timelines. It isn't for everybody.
Yeah I think most companies can offer a pitch that their employees can get behind. I don't think people are against the idea of being accountable for their work.
I don't think Musk has really yet offered a compelling pitch as to why they need to work "extremely hardcore" right now. Hence why many chose to not sign the "hardcore" button after just hours of notice.
If this were a startup and they need to work extremely hardcore to meet a make or break goal... sure, I get it... but right now it seems like it is more like a billionaire paid too much money and we need to work our ass off so we can make him look good?
It all comes down to money. What's the new bonus and long term incentive plan to reward the people that sign on.
If Musk spent 44 billion and the Twitter goes away, I think he should be put up for sainthood. If only he could only do the same for instagram and the facebook.
Friendly wager on that???
I'm about 95% sure they will be here next year.
I'm less convinced they will be here in 5.
Only question is if someone will challenge them or not.
A better platform could be built for much less than $44 billion.
You’re gonna make me wait five years? Lol
Like I said, I really don’t know much about Twitter because I don’t tweet. They clearly on the space and the brand. At the end of the day, I would think it’s all about adding users.
Meanwhile the FTX CEO and 2nd biggest donor to the Democrats either stole or squandered millions from depositors, bankrupted 2 companies and the major newspapers only lament about his Pandemic spending going away. Yet they harp on Musk non-stop. Perspective is a marvel to behold.
Of course. They own the space for now.
The question really from my view is if someone can convince enough influential people to go somewhere else.
That's all that matters.
Twitter isn't valuable because they have a lot of users. They are valuable because that's where the influential people are to attract those users. No viable alternative at this point. Not sure if that will change.
Sure. Influential people are only going to move to another platform only if they can believe they can influence more people. Until that happens, why would you change?
Yeah I'm on the waitlist.
Also checked out Mastodon which was horrible.
These are both leaning towards a decentralized solution and I'm not sold on if that needs to be the case yet.
Seems like they would tend to be more niche in the near term.
25% of Twitter Users Produce 97% of All Tweets
It will be interesting if the Musk takeover causes the base to grow. If it does, will the newer Tweeters and old Tweeters get along or will it turn into LOTS. Lol.
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It will be interesting if the Musk takeover causes the base to grow. If it does, will the newer Tweeters and old Tweeters get along or will it turn into LOTS. Lol.
New Study Shows That 25% of Twitter Users Produce 97% of All Tweets
The study underlines the 'dominance of the few' rule on social media, and its broader impacts.
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https://www.axios.com/2022/11/19/mastodon-social-twitter-alternative-elon-musk
Yeah, I don’t see the value proposition in this. Seems like separate communities with restrictions and extremes will have a platform. How does the government regulate this?
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