UConn and the Big East
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BTW,
2015 BIG EAST MEN'S LACROSSE STANDINGS
Conference Overall
1. Denver 3-0 1.000 9-2 .818
2. Georgetown 3-1 .750 8-4 .667
2. Marquette 3-1 .750 10-3 .769
4. St. John's 1-2 .333 3-9 .250
5. Villanova 0-3 .000 5-6 .455
5. Providence 0-3 .000 4-8 .333
2015 BIG EAST MEN'S LACROSSE STANDINGS
Conference Overall
1. Denver 3-0 1.000 9-2 .818
2. Georgetown 3-1 .750 8-4 .667
2. Marquette 3-1 .750 10-3 .769
4. St. John's 1-2 .333 3-9 .250
5. Villanova 0-3 .000 5-6 .455
5. Providence 0-3 .000 4-8 .333
Yes, it gives the conference a little added boost. Also gives the BET some added spice and will make that ticket be in demand again with Uconn in the mix. Obviously the elephant in the room is football.
I have always stated that Uconn should be welcomed back into the Big East. We need another marquee team and as much as I hate the UConn fans, they travel well and pack MSG. This is something the league needs. I would want them back in all sports and let their football program join another league. Make it financially difficult to get out of the league as well to ensure they do not go anywhere and not use the league to jump to another. Add Gonzaga to the league to make it an east west coupling. Now that is a basketball league.
No , they would forever be bitter that they had to drop football. It would be like asking them to walk around with a big L on their forehead. They need to remain in the AAC and be the Gonzaga of the east and hope for continued conference realignment in the future. Like RU in the past , they need a lot of state help to pay for their athletic expenses.
You had me until that Gonzaga laugher. Thats stupid lol.
BUT if we add UCONN then that pretty much opens the search to public schools which gives us 10x more options. No?
I think UConn is finding themselves in a real bind. They probably don't like the current conference they currently play in and the only reason they feel compelled to stay there is to accomodate their Football program. They really are not a fit in the Big East as it currently stands since they are a major state university. At the same time, for a program like LAX where major conference affiliations I don't believe really matter, the Big East would be perfect for them.
UConn needs to make the decision whether or not they are going to try to be big time in Football and if so, they really need to make a push to eventually join the likes of the ACC, B1G, or even the Big 12 for that matter similar to what West Virginia did. I think this AAC conference does not set them up well to compete in big time Football.
I think it's important for the Big East to stick with schools that have common backgrounds; Private with some Religous backed value system. If anyone watched the ESPN documentary, once the Football schools entered in full drove, it led to the ultimate demise of the conference as we once knew it. The Big East needs to stay primarily Football school free IMO. Unless of course we find ourselves in jeopardy of one day losing a major TV contract which given all the Cable Sports networks available, I really don't see that happening.
UConn needs to make the decision whether or not they are going to try to be big time in Football and if so, they really need to make a push to eventually join the likes of the ACC, B1G, or even the Big 12 for that matter similar to what West Virginia did. I think this AAC conference does not set them up well to compete in big time Football.
I think it's important for the Big East to stick with schools that have common backgrounds; Private with some Religous backed value system. If anyone watched the ESPN documentary, once the Football schools entered in full drove, it led to the ultimate demise of the conference as we once knew it. The Big East needs to stay primarily Football school free IMO. Unless of course we find ourselves in jeopardy of one day losing a major TV contract which given all the Cable Sports networks available, I really don't see that happening.
I just have one question that anyone who would consider letting UConn join the BE for basketball should answer. Can you trust them ?. We all know that they would bolt any league they're in if one of the power 5 conferences invited them to join and they would do so in spite of any agreement they had with the BE . They would refuse to pay any buyout fee and drag the BE into protracted litigation to collect that fee and I if the case is in Connecticut who knows what the outcome would be.
I'm glad they are gone and let them languish in the AAC, they got what they deserve.
I'm glad they are gone and let them languish in the AAC, they got what they deserve.
I think they still want big football money so I'm not sure they want the Big East or are a good fit. Joining the lacrosse league is meaningless for the big sports just a convenience. Until they give up football they simply are not a fit for us and for having a stable league. I'd like another quality team in the Big East like them though but its not a fit for all sports and you can't trust them as long as they have football aspirations.
No! No! No!
They need us more than we need them. They play in that winky conference of theirs. It is going to hurt them get recruits eventually. No football schools! Let them go to the ACC. Oh, that's right the ACC didn't want them. Neither did the B1G. No bailing them out. Just someone else for us to finish below.
They need us more than we need them. They play in that winky conference of theirs. It is going to hurt them get recruits eventually. No football schools! Let them go to the ACC. Oh, that's right the ACC didn't want them. Neither did the B1G. No bailing them out. Just someone else for us to finish below.
Yes in a heartbeat. Can you imagine being a UConn basketball fan? Granted you've got 4 national championships to make you feel better, but going from the Big East to playing Tulane, Houston, etc... UGH. Has to be painful to lose all those rivalries.
+2 There'd have to be some serious strings attached.
Interesting tweet from the Maven a couple days ago.
So @KevinMcNamara33
All things considered, UConn is drooling to get into the ACC. I get the feeling that if this meeting is occurring, its only about getting the ACC off the shitter to invite them in. Power five are driving the bus, so there is no rush to grab UConn...they will still be there one, two, three years from now if they do expand.Originally posted by Stevie_H:
+2 There'd have to be some serious strings attached.
Interesting tweet from the Maven a couple days ago.
Sammy Albano[/B] @SammyAlbano · Apr 14
So @KevinMcNamara33
The women's basketball team has become a dynasty under Auriemma and will continue to dominate the NCAA championship . Can't believe he continually does wonders getting the top high school talent even though they play in the weakest basketball league . Think the men's team has taken a step back especially when the # 10 recruit D. Stone switched his commit to Maryland.
Don't think the ACC wants UConn . ND is the odd ball in the ACC since ND joined as the 15th member in every sport except football . I think unless ND joins in football ,don't think UConn will get an invite . Then again if the college landscape changes ,schools changing conference affiliations .Who knows?
Don't think the ACC wants UConn . ND is the odd ball in the ACC since ND joined as the 15th member in every sport except football . I think unless ND joins in football ,don't think UConn will get an invite . Then again if the college landscape changes ,schools changing conference affiliations .Who knows?
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haha. Did you actually Google "fox driving car" to find that pic?Originally posted by Halldan1:
UConn never left the Big East in field hockey or women's lacrosse.
The fact that they'd be joining for men's lax shouldn't mean anything.
The fact that they'd be joining for men's lax shouldn't mean anything.
As Halldan1 wrote, if there was a strong contract indicating a firm committment and a costly exit fee, I would be in favor.
And I would in no way accept them just for basketball. They would have to join for all sports.
UConn should only be accepted if there's a team such as Wichita State (no football) also coming aboard to balance out the geography.
WS and UConn in the BE would sharply raise the athletics profiles of both schools and the BE. The top women's basketball team would be back. FOX would love this. They would, however, have to put up more cash because their package would significantly increase in value. And those schools would not be fully vested in revenue sharing immediately.
Look, there are rumors that Kevin Ollie is going to the NBA. UConn has to be seriously thinking about its future.
If I want revenge, I say F them.
As a business decision, it would make sense.
And I would in no way accept them just for basketball. They would have to join for all sports.
UConn should only be accepted if there's a team such as Wichita State (no football) also coming aboard to balance out the geography.
WS and UConn in the BE would sharply raise the athletics profiles of both schools and the BE. The top women's basketball team would be back. FOX would love this. They would, however, have to put up more cash because their package would significantly increase in value. And those schools would not be fully vested in revenue sharing immediately.
Look, there are rumors that Kevin Ollie is going to the NBA. UConn has to be seriously thinking about its future.
If I want revenge, I say F them.
As a business decision, it would make sense.
Diamond Stone was committed in his heart to someone. Unfortunately his last Act score made it not doable along with his prognostications of being a one and done.
If UCONN moved its football program to the MAC- if they had interest- then an addition of UCONN and St Louis woulld make the league stronger. Both have great facilities and great fan bases, and bring a new market in with them. It would also add that sizzle back to the BET that has gone missing since the changes occured.
That said, if the league then split into east and west divisions would we ever be in the deep end. 2X against that group would be a battle.
That said, if the league then split into east and west divisions would we ever be in the deep end. 2X against that group would be a battle.
Yes, we absolutely should take them in....with the football caveats and exit fees handled satisfactorily (to the BE)
Look at this Conferences performance in the Big Dance......a Big Dud.
UCONN adds instant credibility.....frankly, shows that the BE still has some draw, with one of the schools left behind, coming back in....and Fox would want this as well. Adds interest to the game package.
Finally. and someone else noted this....if they come...they dont come alone (11 not a good number)....so the potential to package in someone else of high caliber and that is a win win.
Not, of course for the SHU chances....just adds two more teams we can finish behind....but hey, maybe we get more NCAA royalties out of the deal!
Look at this Conferences performance in the Big Dance......a Big Dud.
UCONN adds instant credibility.....frankly, shows that the BE still has some draw, with one of the schools left behind, coming back in....and Fox would want this as well. Adds interest to the game package.
Finally. and someone else noted this....if they come...they dont come alone (11 not a good number)....so the potential to package in someone else of high caliber and that is a win win.
Not, of course for the SHU chances....just adds two more teams we can finish behind....but hey, maybe we get more NCAA royalties out of the deal!
the bottom line is no matter how the people in charge of the league have to get the league as strong as possible. I like the current setup but to stay close to the Power 5 over the years expansion is needed. Not long ago we were in the best conference year after year. Some have said that the old BE was the best conference of all time. So with that said I would expand up to 16 if I had to. Within 5 years the Power5 will probably all have 16 schools. I personally would look at all of these schools and pick anywhere from 2 to 6 more to include. Without getting into all the legal stuff and just for the sake of argument I would look at UCONN UMASS TEMPLE MEMPHIS DAYTON. ST. LOUIS WITCHITA ST. CINCINNATI . If FOX wants a great league pick up to 6 of these schools. Football wise yes their is a chance the ACC will come after UCONN at some point as well as CINCY who the BIG 12 may want. But no way Temple Umass Memphis are going anywhere no ACC nowhere. Nothing is the same with the league. The ratings are not all that great the tournament at the Garden isn't the same etc. If the BE decides to go after schools like Richmond VCU ST. JOES forget it . ITS the difference between being in a good or great league. Just like with Amaker I hold no grudges because I know whether its Amaker or really expanding the league it will help us. no question. Only wish Notre Dame had come along.
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When does the FOX contract expire? I think I remember reading the ratings weren't very good. I wonder if the BE games have been at all profitable for them.
If the contract isn't renewed what are the impacts/ scenarios other than losing the $ we get from them and losing the opportunity to watch every BE game? Obviously those are both huge, but will ESPN blackball us even if we don't have an affiliation with any other competing networks?
