Yes, it's almost completely different this year. Lots of big movement. For us, not great.
Nova is down 16 spots. No formerly top 150 Catholic school moved up. Criteria changed to massively improve state schools. Our class size and student gpa/sat’s are improving.
So you’re saying we got docked for being Catholic? We’ve been going down for quite a number of years now, this isn’t a good look. What criteria are we getting dinged on!?
Every single college‘s gpa/SATs are improving. It‘s the most overused piece of public relations schlock in the business. But I guess people still read it and think it means something.
One of the new criteria was four-year graduation rate and something along the lines of how much debt students graduate with, And we don’t do great there. Class size was also (inexplicably) dropped, and that hurt. I didn’t know How that is it considered important in evaluating the undergrad experience.
This is just my opinion but I don't mind that the Law School was victim of a massive fraud. I enjoy giving money to SHU to see it blown away in the wind. Maybe we could charge the Law School for naming rights since there seems to be little of any real connection to the University.
Forgive me if I am wrong but it seems as if you have some sort of contempt for the Law School which is the crown jewel of the University. Unfortunately, there was a fraud perpetrated by employees of the Law School. However, these things do happen. Even at schools like NYU.
For what it's worth, the diversity element was a prime factor in Rutgers big jump to the top 40. Although we all enjoy a good laugh at Rutgers' empty trophy case, I think we have to tip our collective hats to them on that.
Definitely. It's unfortunate that this is reality but it's naive to think an organization with a $300M+ annual budget doesn't have some waste/abuse/unethical employee(s).
It's nice to see that NYU is charging the employee for theft unlike our school. Losing our President may have been the result of the school failing to see the need to make changes, including oversight of the Law School.
I have no animus towards the Law School. However, I am disappointed about what has transpired after the defalcation was uncovered.
Seton Hall is quite diverse. Doesn’t seem like it got us any additional points.
Well if you look at the way this administration and BOR operated with NIL with its snail pace maybe the President was also frustrated with other operations at the school. I have no insight but really the university has done itself no favors when it comes to the optics of its organization and administrators as a whole
OT was a smaller part but the vast majority of it was 1 person creating fake invoices and submitting for reimbursement. That accounted for most of it.
Based on your post history you view them about the same.
Public universities, especially those with large research budgets, were the big winners.
Whataboutism. And the library, technically, is the "Crown Jewel" of the University. That said, I am always happy to see SHU Law doing well.
Is it any surprise that a big state university in the most diverse place on the planet is "diverse?" I mean, did they even have to have a strategic plan to achieve that?
I don't know, but the new formula awards the fact of diversity success, not whether it was difficult to achieve or not.
Vanderbilt drops 5 spots, still remains in the top 20, and is pissed. Meanwhile we plummet at least 10 spots a year, drop out of the top 150, but are all giddy with the results and make excuses that the metrics changed so it’s not our fault. If we’re constantly moving down, and we are, others are moving up. What are they doing that we aren’t?
In the past 6 years we have substantially grown our undergraduate population when the number of college students declined 10% nationally AND the quality of our students increased. That is quite positive.
