And while these are all good and all positive why do we continue to drop? And we also drop by double digits. Something isn’t right. I just want to know what we’re missing and what we need to do to improve.
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As i indicated, the weightings changed so that class size is eliminated and tuition and research budgets received greater weighting.
This is the first year USN&WR is using this methodology, but as I recall, Seton Hall suffered a pretty significant drop last year, too, when the metrics should have been more favorable.
Exactly! And this is my point, not too long ago we were at 118. Now we’re at 151! That’s a 33 point drop over a very short period of time. The metrics change every year and while others move up we continue to move down. Why do others seem to know what needs to be done but we don’t?
And this criterion will disproportionately affect private universities, which tend to cost more and leave students with higher debt.
Maybe SHU just isn’t designed for what their criteria is?
Besides, how arbitrary can this thing be? It’s US News and World Report! Talk about a meaningless entity in 2023!
If SHU or any school caters what they do to improve an arbitrary ranking from US News and World Report, I’d have an issue with their operations and decision making.
Yes and I wonder how many people actually call the shots about what’s important and what background do they have to be making these judgments that effect so many? Just like that they can flick a switch?
Look I may be just a duck🦆, but student debt should be the #1 criteria in evaluation. If you can graduate from Rutgers with $20k in debt but choose to graduate from Seton Hall with $100k in debt for the exact same degree, you are not very smart. A fool and his money are soon parted.
Also, test scores are going up only because they are becoming optional. Only the students with top scores are submitting them. In my opinion, overall scores have not moved materially since the onset of covid.
Also, test scores are going up only because they are becoming optional. Only the students with top scores are submitting them. In my opinion, overall scores have not moved materially since the onset of covid.
The average SHU student graduates with circa $30k in debt. That seems like a reasonable level to obtain a great Catholic education with nearly a 99% job placement rate. Best 4 years of my life.
Agree with the previous posts. Choosing a college is a very personal decision. It’s not just about money - if it were everyone would go to community college for two years then transfer to Rutgers.
Personally I had no desire to go to a big state school. I didn’t apply to any. Some people may love the experience of a school with 35,000 students but that wasn’t for me.
Personally I had no desire to go to a big state school. I didn’t apply to any. Some people may love the experience of a school with 35,000 students but that wasn’t for me.
A million years ago when I was looking at schools I only applied to three. Pace was done at my father's behest because it was local.
Since I was focused on a career in communications, my main choices were Syracuse and Seton Hall. After visiting both, I landed on Seton Hall. Money was a factor -- at the time it was about $4,000 per year cheaper, which was a good bit back then. But I really liked the idea of being closer to home (60-75 minutes as opposed to four hours) and the smaller community that Seton Hall was.
In the end, I didn't want to be in a city and the SU campus is a city unto itself on top of that.
And Seton Hall was luckier for your choice as you served them well.
Lol. Thank you. The University did more for me than I could ever do in return.
Same here. But that doesn't in any way diminish what you did there and are doing here now with your intelligent and factual discourse.
You are an asset to Seton Hall and the entire Seton Hall community, Dan!
Thank you.
I have gotten to know TheHall87 through the years and his sports knowledge is second to none. Great guy to boot.
I have gotten to know TheHall87 through the years and his sports knowledge is second to none. Great guy to boot.
