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There's not a lot of good you can say about Dolan. But his minority hirings match up well against most any owner in the NBA. So this is one time he should have actually been vocal. It would have put the NY Knicks in a situation they haven't been in for longer than I can remember. A favorable one.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/drew-brees-apology-rings-hollow-for-some-athletes/
Drew Brees’ apology rings hollow for some athletes
By Zach Braziller
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Latest Saints teammate rips Drew Brees' anthem comments
Drew Brees’ effort at damage control has missed the mark for some. The Saints’ star quarterback tried to walk back his controversial Wednesday comments — in which he said he would never support players who kneeled during the national anthem — writing on Instagram that he is not the enemy and “it breaks my heart to know the pain I caused.”
But it wasn’t nearly enough for players like Tobias Harris of the 76ers and Giants safety Jabrill Peppers.
“Nah, we heard you the first time,” Peppers, an African-American from New Jersey, tweeted.
“Take this for what it is, if you’re trying to issue an apology, a press release is not the route.” Harris tweeted. “Take your ass on camera and apologize. Then go take some actions forward to show us/yourself that you actually are sorry. Morning @drewbrees.”
Podcast host Jody Avirgan pointed out the photo Brees posted was a stock photo labeled “handshake against racism.”
One of his Saints teammates, linebacker Demario Davis, was more gracious.
I think that is a form of true leadership,” he said on CNN. “That’s taking ownership. What we had hoped the first time was that Drew would elaborate more on racism and the sentiments of the black community. He admitted he missed the mark. For him to come out and say ‘I missed the mark, I’ve been insensitive but what I’m going to start doing is listening and learning from the black community and finding ways that I can help them.’ I think that’s a model for all of America. . . . For him to admit that he was wrong and say I can do better and I will do better. I think that is leadership at its finest.”
On Wednesday, Brees drew backlash for telling Yahoo Finance he would never agree with anyone disrespecting the American flag when asked about players protesting police brutality and racial inequality at a time protests and looting have broken out across the country following the death of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer.
Drew Brees’ apology rings hollow for some athletes
By Zach Braziller
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DREW BREES
--k Drew Brees' chant breaks out in New Orleans
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Latest Saints teammate rips Drew Brees' anthem comments
Drew Brees’ effort at damage control has missed the mark for some. The Saints’ star quarterback tried to walk back his controversial Wednesday comments — in which he said he would never support players who kneeled during the national anthem — writing on Instagram that he is not the enemy and “it breaks my heart to know the pain I caused.”
But it wasn’t nearly enough for players like Tobias Harris of the 76ers and Giants safety Jabrill Peppers.
“Nah, we heard you the first time,” Peppers, an African-American from New Jersey, tweeted.
“Take this for what it is, if you’re trying to issue an apology, a press release is not the route.” Harris tweeted. “Take your ass on camera and apologize. Then go take some actions forward to show us/yourself that you actually are sorry. Morning @drewbrees.”
Podcast host Jody Avirgan pointed out the photo Brees posted was a stock photo labeled “handshake against racism.”
One of his Saints teammates, linebacker Demario Davis, was more gracious.
I think that is a form of true leadership,” he said on CNN. “That’s taking ownership. What we had hoped the first time was that Drew would elaborate more on racism and the sentiments of the black community. He admitted he missed the mark. For him to come out and say ‘I missed the mark, I’ve been insensitive but what I’m going to start doing is listening and learning from the black community and finding ways that I can help them.’ I think that’s a model for all of America. . . . For him to admit that he was wrong and say I can do better and I will do better. I think that is leadership at its finest.”
On Wednesday, Brees drew backlash for telling Yahoo Finance he would never agree with anyone disrespecting the American flag when asked about players protesting police brutality and racial inequality at a time protests and looting have broken out across the country following the death of George Floyd at the hands of a Minneapolis police officer.
At this point Brees is going to be wrong no matter what he says or does. Pathetic.
Wonder what would happen if ALL black players....or all players for that matter....take a knee at the first NFL game?
I am guessing the owners would acquiesce....
Could be interesting
Lets see if big college football in the south goes off without a hitch...FSU seems to have been caught in a lie with new football head coach
Not according to Laura Ingraham, he can have and share his opinion on society at large but kevin durant and lebron james should shut up and dribble
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And they do shut up and dribble when it comes to China where people are in literal death camps, but that's okay because they make a ton of money in China.
Main chinese media outlet continues to show 0 nba games this season, some others now with abbreviated volume vs what they were doing. Nba losing big money because of this. Daryl morey doesnt hit send none of this happens. Adam silver the most progressive league leader of this century clearly had no problem with nba international division cutting deals for profit. As for endorsement money for player apparel and signature shoe lines it is a neccessary evil. There shouldnt be race or ethnic oppresion anywhere but there is many spots around the world. KP it is easy to rile up your constituency on here for this example but how about the many other businesses and individials that do business with China. Bottom line we should be cleaning up our own backyard before we seek to clean up others. Pac 12 has a china series game every early November now. I personally dont agree that conference should be marketing american institutions and likely mostly american student athletes over there.
What has happened with our country that leads to such vitriol when someone expresses an opposing point of view? Brees was not harsh in his tone or explanation, he disagrees and explains why quite clearly - deal with it!
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So you're excusing what happens there because it's not our country and Lebrons silence which is so convenient? Working camps are far worse than anything any American experiences on a daily basis. The overall standard of living in America is better than any other place in the world for black, brown or white people and it's not even close. I dont excuse American companies from operating there, I try to buy American products and I would be willing to pay a higher price if they did leave China to make product here. I voted for Trump because he at least made it a priority to get manufacturing back to America. FYI I voted for Obama twice as well. Obama did not better with fixing race issues in this country than Trump has done. If you ignore the media's manipulation of the public and just read the stats as SHU09 posted today, there is a disconnect between this social movement and reality.
NBA no better than Hollywood movie scene
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nba-stars-study-hollywoods-playbook-in-china-11570852864
LeBron James is a black man in America from Akron area
There are probably close to 8 or 10 guys active or recently retired with Chinese specific brand signature sneaker line, I personally dont agree with it but that is a decison they chose
Do i agree that young children of specific ethnic descent or women who werent granted a path towards education live in sweatshop conditions and make truly no fair compensation for the volume and work they do, I feel its disgusting...but that is an issue beyond china and southeast asia as well...thats a cultural difference in the eastern world vs where we are in the western world...
Do you think Howard Schultz cared about every last barista across all starbucks or Jeff Bezos cares for a daily scenario that a warehouse worker or delivery person truly has to deal with as well?
https://nypost.com/2020/06/04/nba-voice-grant-napear-was-fired-for-stating-all-lives-matter-truth/
NBA voice Grant Napear was unjustly fired over ‘All Lives Matter’ truth
By Phil Mushnick
Grant NapearCourtesy of Grant Napear
These days you never know when you’re a goner. You never know if your career and deeds — good deeds, well-intended deeds and honest work — will be hijacked by fringe lunatics or the merely wishful to publicly paint you as what they want you to be, hope you are or read online that you definitely are.
Thus you become a racist, because that’s a quick, effective substitute for reasonable, civil dialogue and for dealing with certain clear, present and often unpopular truths.
So the easiest, safest way to protect your career is to pander to those with whom you disagree, ignore what you can’t miss or simply run away.
Grant Napear, 32 years the TV voice of the Sacramento Kings, is a goner this week, fired from his gig as a Sacramento sports talk host and “resigned” as the TV voice of Kings TV broadcast because he’s a racist. Perhaps. There’s no evidence. But a knee-jerk reaction from easily frightened bosses (see: Doug Adler, former ESPN tennis analyst) is all it takes.
Set up by a former King, DeMarcus Cousins, who Napear had criticized for chronic malfeasance in disservice to the Kings, Napear responded to Cousins’ tweeted question about the Black Lives Matter movement following the alleged murder of George Floyd beneath the knee of a Minneapolis cop with a suspect record.
Like Hilary Clinton and presumably millions before him, Napear was naïve to the new presumption that “All Lives Matter” is now considered by some to be a racist response to the BLM movement. Seriously.
I remain unfamiliar with the preferred, non-racist response. But until this week, All Lives Matter seemed a sensible, sensitive sentiment shared by right-minded people.
So when Napear responded to Cousins with, “All Lives Matter, Every Single One!!!,” it became a “Gotchya!” moment. See? He’s a racist! There’s the proof!
And instead of the exchange being ignored or Napear being defended by longtime employers, he was quickly charged, convicted and sentenced to lasting ignominy, sacrificed to a flimsy accusation based on a dubious interpretation of his on-cue response.
You can now find Napear’s permanent record on Wikipedia, fired after 32 years of calling an NBA team’s games because someone with little social credibility of his own claimed he’s a racist.
As long as Cousins is demanding answers, here’s a question frequently asked by the fair-minded, among them many who continue to have the liberal — lower-case — knocked out of them by irreconcilable truths:
When don’t black lives matter? Why do they only matter sometimes? Every day in urban America scores of young black men are slaughtered by young black men. Day after day, after week, after month, after year, the numbers are staggering.
Where are the Black Lives Matter demonstrations in Newark, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, Baltimore, Atlanta to demand justice for these slain?
Several months ago, after three young black men were gunned down in one day in Newark, Mayor Ras Baraka said hate for cops — 78 percent of Newark’s force is black or Hispanic — is a non-qualifier. The issue, he said, is that when cops investigate such murders, folks refuse to cooperate for fear of retaliation from gang members.
How does something reminiscent of Nazi Germany recriminations — we’ll go after your family — not attract the Black Lives Matter movement?
Falcons offensive lineman Kaleb McGary this week tweeted, “So in response to a sad and senseless death, people burn down the police stations and businesses of innocent people … those involved in that are no better than the cops they claim to hate.”
That rhymed with the laments of many black leaders who refuse to excuse or rationalize the conduct of looters and arsonists.
Yet, McGary, who is white, was forced to apologize for his insensitivity. Insensitivity to whom? Were looters thinking, “I’m doing this for you, Mr. Floyd!”?
Reader David Distefano has lived the past 33 years in Sacramento. He has never heard Napear utter a word that struck him as racist. He noted that the Kings’ NBC Sports regional station issued a statement that “Napear’s views don’t reflect the views of the network.”
Thus, concluded Distefano, “NBC Sports doesn’t believe that all lives matter?” Too late; Napear’s already history. Modern justice has been served.
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This is really sad. Neighborhoods that hard working African Americans are trying to build up torn down by their BLM hooligans. If someone knows any legitimate go fund me to donate to help someone like this poor woman please share.
So sick of hearing company statements on the subject none of which offer any possible solutions. Sick of listening to football players making statements. Sick of people taking knees, sick of people raising their hands, sick of the marketing people who dream this sick stuff up. Sick of the NBA, sick of NFL, sick of the owners who don't realize we are sick of listening to this stuff. I would like to make my statement, Shut the hell up and do something productive.
Thank God for the Pirates, coach Willard and a great bunch of players.
Thank God for the Pirates, coach Willard and a great bunch of players.
I think it’s a lot more than BLM hooligans. All kinds of groups have co-opted the legitimate concerns over this for their own needs.
Wish just one person would make a statement and stick by it, Drew is 41 years old, what does he care. It's his opinion!
They all need to grow up and be men, maybe some of the players from the 70's and 80's can come back and hold seminars to discourage football players from crying and being so sensitive and soft. Not one intelligent solution has come from any of this talking. NFL 0 and NBA 0, I like low scoring games but this is sad, pathetic and honestly disgraceful. When I hear ideas and solutions I will start listening, but right now this is simply noise and need for attention.
Actually I posted a major solution compliments of Dak Prescott. But good deeds seldom get the headlines. They're not as click worthy.
Division sells. Do people really want to find common ground? I can't answer that right now. Hate is easy. Pointing and putting down others is what people do, all in the name of their own righteousness.
So if you're in the public you better be cautious. You get one shot. Look at Brees. The first statement was taken as gospel and that was it. He was destroyed on such a personal level it's nearly impossible to then go back and coexist. His clarification meant nothing.
We're not going anywhere like this as a society. With the advent of cable news and social media, this BS is worse than ever. Change comes from mutual respect and listening first. It's driven by good leadership that mobilizes people peacefully with a clear message and actionable plans. Until then, this is it.
So if you're in the public you better be cautious. You get one shot. Look at Brees. The first statement was taken as gospel and that was it. He was destroyed on such a personal level it's nearly impossible to then go back and coexist. His clarification meant nothing.
We're not going anywhere like this as a society. With the advent of cable news and social media, this BS is worse than ever. Change comes from mutual respect and listening first. It's driven by good leadership that mobilizes people peacefully with a clear message and actionable plans. Until then, this is it.
Sad that actions don't speak louder than words today. Brees has done a ton for the New Orleans community over many years which benefited many minorities and people of color. And he did a lot of that anonymously too. But a bunch of athletes didn't like what he said so instead of learning about his past actions and judging him on what really matters, they pile on and attack him.
That is where we are at today. Look at folks actions not as much what they post on Twitter. Twitter solves nothing. Actual actions and how we listen and treat people and make recommendations are the beginning of solving real complex problems like racism. We can do better and we have to do better, but piling on using social media does little.
That is where we are at today. Look at folks actions not as much what they post on Twitter. Twitter solves nothing. Actual actions and how we listen and treat people and make recommendations are the beginning of solving real complex problems like racism. We can do better and we have to do better, but piling on using social media does little.
Police violence is miniscule when compared to Black on Black violence. What are you doing to stop that? . At least he was holding a bible and not a gun. he could have called in the military to stop the insane riots but he restrained.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/05/trump-says-drew-brees-should-not-have-backed-off-no-kneeling-stance/
Trump says Drew Brees should not have backed off ‘NO KNEELING!’ stance
By Bob Fredericks
June 5, 2020 | 5:42pm |
President Trump on Friday reentered the fray over NFL players protesting police brutality by kneeling during the National Anthem — knocking New Orleans Saints QB Drew Brees for apologizing and demanding there be “NO KNEELING!” during the “Star-Spangled Banner.”
“I am a big fan of Drew Brees. I think he’s truly one of the greatest quarterbacks, but he should not have taken back his original stance on honoring our magnificent American Flag. OLD GLORY is to be revered, cherished, and flown high,” Trump tweeted.
”We should be standing up straight and tall, ideally with a salute, or a hand on heart. There are other things you can protest, but not our Great American Flag — NO KNEELING!”
Brees said Wednesday that kneeling during the National Anthem was “disrespecting the flag” — though he soon apologized after taking heat for his remarks from players, activists and others for making the statement after the death of George Floyd.
“I know there’s not much that I could say that would make things any better right now,” Brees said in an Instagram video.
“But I just want you to see in my eyes how sorry I am for the comments that I made yesterday. I know they hurt many people, especially friends, teammates, former teammates, loved ones, people that I care and respect deeply,” he continued.
“I wish I would have laid out what was on my heart in regards to the George Floyd murder, Ahmaud Arbery, the years and years of social injustice, police brutality and the need for so much reform and change in regards to legislation and so many other things to bring equality to our black communities,” Brees said, referring to another African-American man who was killed while jogging by a former law enforcement official in Georgia.
“I’m sorry, and I will do better, and I will be part of the solution. And I am your ally. I know no words will do that justice, that’s going to have to be [earned].”
Trump’s tweets came as the nation remained mired in a bitter controversy over race and police brutality following Floyd’s death at the hands of Minneapolis cops, a killing that sparked widespread protests.
Trump has been lashing out at NFL players and other athletes for kneeling during the anthem since then-San Francisco 49ers’ QB Colin Kaepernick started the trend during the 2016 preseason.
“Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired. He’s fired!’” Trump said in Alabama in 2017.
Kaepernick remained on the bench during the third preseason game, but began kneeling during the fourth after speaking with former NFL player and ex-Green Beret Nate Boyer told him it would show more respect to members of the military.
But the quarterback was soon bounced from the league and has not played since — though dozens of other NFL players have followed his lead and continue to kneel during the anthem.
Trump says Drew Brees should not have backed off ‘NO KNEELING!’ stance
By Bob Fredericks
June 5, 2020 | 5:42pm |
President Trump on Friday reentered the fray over NFL players protesting police brutality by kneeling during the National Anthem — knocking New Orleans Saints QB Drew Brees for apologizing and demanding there be “NO KNEELING!” during the “Star-Spangled Banner.”
“I am a big fan of Drew Brees. I think he’s truly one of the greatest quarterbacks, but he should not have taken back his original stance on honoring our magnificent American Flag. OLD GLORY is to be revered, cherished, and flown high,” Trump tweeted.
”We should be standing up straight and tall, ideally with a salute, or a hand on heart. There are other things you can protest, but not our Great American Flag — NO KNEELING!”
Brees said Wednesday that kneeling during the National Anthem was “disrespecting the flag” — though he soon apologized after taking heat for his remarks from players, activists and others for making the statement after the death of George Floyd.
“I know there’s not much that I could say that would make things any better right now,” Brees said in an Instagram video.
“But I just want you to see in my eyes how sorry I am for the comments that I made yesterday. I know they hurt many people, especially friends, teammates, former teammates, loved ones, people that I care and respect deeply,” he continued.
“I wish I would have laid out what was on my heart in regards to the George Floyd murder, Ahmaud Arbery, the years and years of social injustice, police brutality and the need for so much reform and change in regards to legislation and so many other things to bring equality to our black communities,” Brees said, referring to another African-American man who was killed while jogging by a former law enforcement official in Georgia.
“I’m sorry, and I will do better, and I will be part of the solution. And I am your ally. I know no words will do that justice, that’s going to have to be [earned].”
Trump’s tweets came as the nation remained mired in a bitter controversy over race and police brutality following Floyd’s death at the hands of Minneapolis cops, a killing that sparked widespread protests.
Trump has been lashing out at NFL players and other athletes for kneeling during the anthem since then-San Francisco 49ers’ QB Colin Kaepernick started the trend during the 2016 preseason.
“Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired. He’s fired!’” Trump said in Alabama in 2017.
Kaepernick remained on the bench during the third preseason game, but began kneeling during the fourth after speaking with former NFL player and ex-Green Beret Nate Boyer told him it would show more respect to members of the military.
But the quarterback was soon bounced from the league and has not played since — though dozens of other NFL players have followed his lead and continue to kneel during the anthem.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/05/roger-goodell-responds-to-nfl-stars-black-lives-matter-plea/
Roger Goodell responds to NFL stars’ Black Lives Matter plea: ‘We were wrong’
By Ryan Dunleavy
June 5, 2020 | 7:46pm | Updated
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NFL commissioner Roger Goodell condemned racism, admitted a mistake in judgement and ultimately showed he is willing to listen to the players.
One day after the NFL Players Association united some of its biggest stars for a wish list of things they wanted to hear from the league amidst nationwide protests of George Floyd’s murder and other police-involved deaths, Goodell delivered nearly word-for-word on the request in a video released Friday night to social media.
“We, the National Football League, condemn racism and the systematic oppression of black people,” Goodell said from his home. “We, the National Football League, admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest.”
It might not be perfect — the players asked for an admission of wrong in “silencing our players from peacefully protesting” — but it is a big step from the years of the league not giving an inch after Colin Kaepernick and others began kneeling during the national anthem in 2016 to protest social injustice.
The NFL’s first attempt at a response — a written statement last weekend — was deemed by players to fall far short of the mark. For starters, it referred to “tragic events” and “current events” but not the root of the issue.
This time, Goodell struck a more specific chord.
“It has been a difficult time for our country, in particular black people in our country,” Goodell said. “First, my condolences to the families of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, and all the families who have endured police brutality.”
Minnesota police officer Derek Chauvin was fired and charged with second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter after he kneeled on Floyd’s neck and ignored pleas to stop.
The Giants’ Saquon Barkley and the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes were two of the most prominently displayed voices in the powerful video scripted by the NFLPA. Neither Barkley nor Mahomes was in the NFL when Kaepernick protested and all players essentially faced a weekly decision of whether to join or sit out the protest. Same goes for many other rising stars.
About 70 percent of NFL players are black, according to a 2018 study by the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports.
“We, the National Football League, believe Black Lives Matter,” Goodell said. “I personally protest with you and want to be part of the much-needed change in this country. Without black players, there would be no National Football League. And the protests around the country are emblematic of the centuries of silence, inequality and oppression of black players, coaches, fans and staff.”
Next comes action.
Will players be criticized for or deterred from kneeling and/or raising a fist during the anthem? It has been a lightning-rod issue within the NFL — interpreted by some as not supporting the flag and the lives lost during wartime.
“We are listening. I am listening,” Goodell said. “And I will be reaching out to players who have raised their voices and others on how we can improve and go forward for a better and more united NFL family.”
Roger Goodell responds to NFL stars’ Black Lives Matter plea: ‘We were wrong’
By Ryan Dunleavy
June 5, 2020 | 7:46pm | Updated
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NFL great 'not going to stay on the sidelines' in fight vs. racism
Jets star joins protesters in George Floyd march
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell condemned racism, admitted a mistake in judgement and ultimately showed he is willing to listen to the players.
One day after the NFL Players Association united some of its biggest stars for a wish list of things they wanted to hear from the league amidst nationwide protests of George Floyd’s murder and other police-involved deaths, Goodell delivered nearly word-for-word on the request in a video released Friday night to social media.
“We, the National Football League, condemn racism and the systematic oppression of black people,” Goodell said from his home. “We, the National Football League, admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier and encourage all to speak out and peacefully protest.”
It might not be perfect — the players asked for an admission of wrong in “silencing our players from peacefully protesting” — but it is a big step from the years of the league not giving an inch after Colin Kaepernick and others began kneeling during the national anthem in 2016 to protest social injustice.
The NFL’s first attempt at a response — a written statement last weekend — was deemed by players to fall far short of the mark. For starters, it referred to “tragic events” and “current events” but not the root of the issue.
This time, Goodell struck a more specific chord.
“It has been a difficult time for our country, in particular black people in our country,” Goodell said. “First, my condolences to the families of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Ahmaud Arbery, and all the families who have endured police brutality.”
Minnesota police officer Derek Chauvin was fired and charged with second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter after he kneeled on Floyd’s neck and ignored pleas to stop.
The Giants’ Saquon Barkley and the Chiefs’ Patrick Mahomes were two of the most prominently displayed voices in the powerful video scripted by the NFLPA. Neither Barkley nor Mahomes was in the NFL when Kaepernick protested and all players essentially faced a weekly decision of whether to join or sit out the protest. Same goes for many other rising stars.
About 70 percent of NFL players are black, according to a 2018 study by the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sports.
“We, the National Football League, believe Black Lives Matter,” Goodell said. “I personally protest with you and want to be part of the much-needed change in this country. Without black players, there would be no National Football League. And the protests around the country are emblematic of the centuries of silence, inequality and oppression of black players, coaches, fans and staff.”
Next comes action.
Will players be criticized for or deterred from kneeling and/or raising a fist during the anthem? It has been a lightning-rod issue within the NFL — interpreted by some as not supporting the flag and the lives lost during wartime.
“We are listening. I am listening,” Goodell said. “And I will be reaching out to players who have raised their voices and others on how we can improve and go forward for a better and more united NFL family.”
Yet you can’t go to church, go to the funeral of a loved one or even sit with them to comfort them when they are dying alone and scared. You can’t celebrate anything good like weddings or graduations. You can’t even enjoy simple pleasures such as sitting by the pool or on the beach.
Protests? Fine! The more the merrier!
Rioting? Hell yea and don’t forget to bring your friends! People need stuff and haven’t been able to shop! Take whatever you like and don’t forget to burn the place down before you leave! Insane.
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You might have thought the statement was innocuous, and we all know you aren't like one of these reactionaries that have run rampant on here over the past few weeks with their racist, purposefully closed-off-from-reality rhetoric. Your heart was in the right place, I'm sure. But the statement WAS immediately co-opted by the racists, and just two days ago we had maybe the most grotesque display associated with the All Lives Matter crowd.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/10/us/a...orge-floyd-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html
In addition to the classy Floyd re-enactment above, you can see these lovely folks screaming "all lives matter", "black lives matter to no one" & assorted other gems in the video. You also see the Blue Lives Matter flag, which is adjacent to ALM & just more right wing dog whistling.
Whether you like it or not, ALM was hijacked early on & it's not okay to say if you're trying to be an ally here. It's used as a bludgeon against the movement trying to get the police state to treat people of color with the same respect they treat everyone else. It's code and it puts one squarely on the other side of the debate, intentioned or not. How terms shift through our culture matters. Nothing is static.
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You might have thought the statement was innocuous, and we all know you aren't like one of these reactionaries that have run rampant on here over the past few weeks with their racist, purposefully closed-off-from-reality rhetoric. Your heart was in the right place, I'm sure. But the statement WAS immediately co-opted by the racists, and just two days ago we had maybe the most grotesque display associated with the All Lives Matter crowd.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/10/us/a...orge-floyd-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html
In addition to the classy Floyd re-enactment above, you can see these lovely folks screaming "all lives matter", "black lives matter to no one" & assorted other gems in the video. You also see the Blue Lives Matter flag, which is adjacent to ALM & just more right wing dog whistling.
Whether you like it or not, ALM was hijacked early on & it's not okay to say if you're trying to be an ally here. It's used as a bludgeon against the movement trying to get the police state to treat people of color with the same respect they treat everyone else. It's code and it puts one squarely on the other side of the debate, intentioned or not. How terms shift through our culture matters. Nothing is static.
Bobbie since you have every answer in the book, how will you combat the rampant black on black violent crime? Is this not a huge issue in the black community or is the extremely rare (like. 001%) deadly force from a cop on a black man a much greater issue for the black community to overcome? For god sake "stop snitching" is a term used to put people in fear in those communities of talking to the police and help solve a crime. What kind of society murders huge amounts of people and thinks it's Okay and the "culture"?
Also, way to use some random idiots as your example of anyone saying "All lives matter" is racist. I guess everyone in BLM are just dirtbags then since they called for dead cops.
Notice how he lumped people who support the "police state" in with those who believe all lives matter. This is what the radical left crazies like BS do.They paint everyone with a broad brush and don't allow for independent, case by case thinking. It's all or nothing in their deluded minds. Common sense people and the truth most often reside in the middle. Radicalism on both sides is dangerous.
Speaking for myself, I believe nobody should be treated differently based on race and that all lives do matter. I also believe in demilitarizing the police and I'm against authoritarian police states. Just because I believe in one does not mean I believe in the other.
I’d love a response bc you’re someone worth engaging with here, instead of just moving everything to LOTS right after I post some diatribes.
