Who's Next?
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Do not see a path for this monster to make it to 2020. It all depends on when we see a shift in language from Republican leadership. That will be the best sign. But that probably won't happen until their big money donors signal that they're done.
Bannon is a bad, bad guy so this is better for country in the immediate, never mind the schadenfraude of all this mess. It worries me that the only serious people around this scumbag in the presidency are basically generals & greedy GS alum & their ilk, but today is a good day regardless.
Bannon is a bad, bad guy so this is better for country in the immediate, never mind the schadenfraude of all this mess. It worries me that the only serious people around this scumbag in the presidency are basically generals & greedy GS alum & their ilk, but today is a good day regardless.
It depends. If things get bad enough as far as his poll numbers and stalling legislative agenda, I can see him resigning. The guy who wrote his book already said he thinks he may resign by the end of this year (!).
Will be interesting.
Will be interesting.
down to 34% overall before the full fallout from his disgusting response to Charlottesville. That poll was conducted by Gallup on Saturday & Sunday. Gotta think new polls taken after Tuesday will be even lower. Once he dips into the 20's alot of people are saying it will be a whole new ballgame when it comes to the real people in charge like Ryan, McConnell, Koch Brothers, etc.
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The other day my wife told me voting for Trump seemed like a bargain but unless he starts getting in tune with the rest of the country the song is going to be over and he may wind up going mobile and resigning. Either way, I won't get fooled again.
I don't see any path where he resigns. My read on that authors view was that he was screaming for some and attention because of his ties to Trump. At the end of the day, the Republicans better start getting some legislation through or else they will be giving up their advantage in 2020. But then again I have yet to see any vision from the other side. As bad as Trump is both parties have done very little to demonstrate that they are adults as well.
One positive I see is that with this trend of departures; the adults are winning: Kelly, Mattis, McMaster, Tillerson...I'd be very worried if one or two of them bailed.
I agree with you about those four for the good of the country. As much as I find Trump totally offensive it is important to have someone in the White House that actually knows what they are doing.
Tom K
Brietbart seems to be going after McMaster currently.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/347286-breitbart-goes-after-mcmaster
Russian bots also calling for him to be fired.
Trump is utterly inept at handling questions and the press in general.
Amazing that a guy that has achieved what he has not learned the responses that are needed in those situations.
Assuming he was not properly briefed (and someone's head should/will roll for that) he still needs to handle the questions.
"Right now our biggest concern is the 10 missing sailors" "The Navy is applying all the needed resources to this situation"
"I will have more to say once I am fully briefed. Please pray for our sailors"
Absent that, he should learn to keep his yap shut until he knows what is happening.
Amazing that a guy that has achieved what he has not learned the responses that are needed in those situations.
Assuming he was not properly briefed (and someone's head should/will roll for that) he still needs to handle the questions.
"Right now our biggest concern is the 10 missing sailors" "The Navy is applying all the needed resources to this situation"
"I will have more to say once I am fully briefed. Please pray for our sailors"
Absent that, he should learn to keep his yap shut until he knows what is happening.
Here is a somewhat reasonable article. You do have to hope the adults stay in the administration. This article forgets to mention Niki Haley's good work in getting China to add sanctions to North Korea. I wish she ran for President.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/stay-o...are-pressed-from-all-sides-1503331106?tesla=y
https://www.wsj.com/articles/stay-o...are-pressed-from-all-sides-1503331106?tesla=y
Fair, but it seems the adults are losing.
The message to whoever replaces them - Do whatever the president wants or you're out .
Not good.
The adults have been losing for the past 20 years… So have the kids.
Though it's not likely the one who should go next is Trump himself. That would not only be good for America but it would also be good for the Republican Party.
TK
TK
Agree Tom. That’s not happening. The big question is where do we go in 2020? I highly doubt Trump will run for reelection. Do we learn as a country and identify better candidates or are we left with the awful choices we had in 2016? I’m not optimistic.
Tom, saw this WAPO article on the "Top 15" potential Dem candidates. It's early, but you have to think/hope others will emerge. Some eye-rollers (Booker, Oprah, Cuomo)....why no Tulsi Gabbard..she would be strong/appealing? Still a Kasich fan as well, but I would put Haley in front of him if she runs.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...tes-for-2020-ranked-2/?utm_term=.7360f4b61e23
That is an awful list! On the Dem side I'd seriously consider Tulsi Gabbard and I liked Jim Webb too from the last election. I hope Nikki Haley runs - she'd be my top candidate overall.
I believe Trump is going to run and he is going to win. Ask your Republican friends the following question -
"If Trump runs again - will you vote for a Democratic candidate?" Invariably the answer is some variation of "Who is the candidate? or "it depends"
No serious Republican is going to cross the party line just to vote against Trump no matter who the Democratic opponent is.
"If Trump runs again - will you vote for a Democratic candidate?" Invariably the answer is some variation of "Who is the candidate? or "it depends"
No serious Republican is going to cross the party line just to vote against Trump no matter who the Democratic opponent is.
He has to make it through the primary first right? There has to be a few Repubs that will run against him I hope.
Historically I think it is rare for a sitting President to lose in the primary
A challenge most likely will have to come from a candidate who represents the "Establishment" section of the Party.
A direct challenge from the Establishment will be a declaration of civil war inside the Republican Party.
It is my opinion that President Trump will win the primary. His base is passionate and unified.
A challenge most likely will have to come from a candidate who represents the "Establishment" section of the Party.
A direct challenge from the Establishment will be a declaration of civil war inside the Republican Party.
It is my opinion that President Trump will win the primary. His base is passionate and unified.
Yes, it is rare for a sitting President to lose a Primary battle, unless of course polls at that time show that his chances of winning in the General Election are extremely poor. Then renominating him could be a kiss of death. The Dems in the last election tried to hand Hillary their nomination on a silver platter ignoring her extreme unpopularity. Much to their detriment she barely survived the primaries to a little known candidate at the start of the campaign.
Regardless you are correct that many voters (from both Parties) just vote party line regardless of who the candidate is or what they stand for. Fortunately these are not the voters who decide the general election. It is the Independent voters who pick and choose that are the ones who will decide Trump's fate if he runs for re-election.
I do not expect him to be a two term President.
Tom K
Regardless you are correct that many voters (from both Parties) just vote party line regardless of who the candidate is or what they stand for. Fortunately these are not the voters who decide the general election. It is the Independent voters who pick and choose that are the ones who will decide Trump's fate if he runs for re-election.
I do not expect him to be a two term President.
Tom K
Doubt there's much value in lists like these except to ad impressions for the publisher. Trump wouldn't have made a top 50 list at the equivalent time for the previous cycle.
Normally I would agree with you, but you would think Washington Post would have a little bit more credibility.
For future discussion, below is the list from the Washington Post which I find quite credible at the present time. It will be interesting to see the list evolve in the coming months.
1. Bernie Sanders
2. Elizabeth Warren
3. Joe Biden
4. Kamala Harris
5. Cory Booker
6. Kirsten Gillibrand
7. Chris Murphy (Connecticut Senator)
8. Terry McAuliffe (Former Virginia Governor)
9. Deval Patrick (Former Massachusetts Governor)
10. Sherrod Brown (NY Giants Running Back)
11. Andrew Cuomo
12. Eric Holder
13. Mitch Landrieu (New Orleans Mayor
14. Oprah Winfrey
15. Steve Bullock (Montana Governor)
1. Bernie Sanders
2. Elizabeth Warren
3. Joe Biden
4. Kamala Harris
5. Cory Booker
6. Kirsten Gillibrand
7. Chris Murphy (Connecticut Senator)
8. Terry McAuliffe (Former Virginia Governor)
9. Deval Patrick (Former Massachusetts Governor)
10. Sherrod Brown (NY Giants Running Back)
11. Andrew Cuomo
12. Eric Holder
13. Mitch Landrieu (New Orleans Mayor
14. Oprah Winfrey
15. Steve Bullock (Montana Governor)
Posted this list several weeks ago. I would have expected better from the Washington Post.
You posted the link - not the list. I simply posted the list for convenience purposes. The list is not new information; the NCAA tournament among other things slowed me down and I only got around to it today.
I think the list is fine but you have made clear you do not. Is the order of names unsatisfactory to you or do you believe important names have been left off?
