Whose Coke Is It In The White House

[HALL85]

Then the natural line would have been to my office which my answer would be the same.

I think the WH is a little more important than your office....kind of like your child's school. I get it...you can't defend the comparison so you try to dismiss it. Predictable.

Not really that surprising in jobs where people work a lot of hours. Not condoning, but that's the reality. Millions of people in the US use cocaine.

People use cocaine, but if someone finds it in the office than you just say "so what"?

We don't need to clutch our pearls because politics is involved.

More extreme editorializing...par for the course.

 

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[Merge]

I think the WH is a little more important than your office....kind of like your child's school.

My child's school is like the white house? Amazing. lol

I get it...you can't defend the comparison so you try to dismiss it.

Dumb comparison. Cocaine would be a danger to children if they happened upon it.
Something that is a danger to others found at my kids school - Problem
Something that is a danger to others found at the white house - Problem.

Something that is not a danger to others found at the white house... not that big of a deal. Get it?

More extreme editorializing...par for the course.

Not editorializing at all. Lots of pearl clutching going on in this thread just because politics is involved.

 

[HALL85]

My child's school is like the white house? Amazing. lol



Dumb comparison. Cocaine would be a danger to children if they happened upon it.
Something that is a danger to others found at my kids school - Problem
Something that is a danger to others found at the white house - Problem.

Something that is not a danger to others found at the white house... not that big of a deal. Get it?



Not editorializing at all. Lots of pearl clutching going on in this thread just because politics is involved.

You have twisted yourself into such a pretzel, you don't even know the point your are making.

Do you think everyone can ID cocaine on the spot? It's a danger, it's illegal and when you are dealing with children or the security of the President, it's even more important. It's a big deal no matter where someone finds it....a school, a park, a business, the White House.

You like that "pearl clutching" term for some reason. How do you identify?

 

[Belluno]

It's cocaine, not a bomb. You've cheered for basketball players who used cocaine.



It was found in an area where visitors place belongings before going on tours. So... you can feel better about the penetration now.

You're beautiful, merge. What do basketball players have to do with White House security? You make it sound like The West Wing is open to tours of the White House that any one of us could join. Not so. A person has to be invited by the White House family or by staff members so they have a very good idea of who has entered. There are logs, there are facial recognition cameras. No DNA or fingerprints on the package? Then look for the guy who entered wearing gloves. LoL. The Secret Service should be ashamed of itself. They are charged with protecting the president of the United States, a pretty important job that might be more than they can handle. Biden is a complete loser but he is our President and I want him protected by competent people which might not be the case anymore

 

[SPK145]

What makes anyone think that if this was a bag of ricin as opposed to cocaine the results would be any different?

This is actually some scary stuff being poo-pooed by many.

 

[Merge]

You're beautiful, merge. What do basketball players have to do with White House security? You make it sound like The West Wing is open to tours of the White House that any one of us could join. Not so. A person has to be invited by the White House family or by staff members so they have a very good idea of who has entered. There are logs, there are facial recognition cameras. No DNA or fingerprints on the package? Then look for the guy who entered wearing gloves. LoL. The Secret Service should be ashamed of itself. They are charged with protecting the president of the United States, a pretty important job that might be more than they can handle. Biden is a complete loser but he is our President and I want him protected by competent people which might not be the case anymore

You think a bag of cocaine in a cubby where visitors leave personal items is a risk to the president?

No one in the white house was at risk. Again - I posted a video in this thread where hunter is clearly snorting something (probably cocaine) next to Joe and you're more worried about a random bag that was left in a cubby that could belong to one of a couple hundred people?

 

[Merge]

What makes anyone think that if this was a bag of ricin as opposed to cocaine the results would be any different?

The white house has detection for ricin. They do not for cocaine.

You seriously think the search for someone trying to kill people inside the white house should be the same as the search for someone who had less than 0.2 grams of cocaine?

 

[HALL85]

The white house has detection for ricin. They do not for cocaine.

You seriously think the search for someone trying to kill people inside the white house should be the same as the search for someone who had less than 0.2 grams of cocaine?

For a guy that doesn't think this is a big deal, you sure have posted a lot on the subject....

 

[SPK145]

The white house has detection for ricin. They do not for cocaine.

You seriously think the search for someone trying to kill people inside the white house should be the same as the search for someone who had less than 0.2 grams of cocaine?

The Secret Service being as corrupt as the CIA and the FBI is really what I was getting at.

 

[CL82]

Man do I miss Billy Carter!

Lol, public urination does look pretty good by comparison.

 

[SPK145]

When Andrew Weissmann, Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s top guy, would get on board with what is being pitched, you know how bad it is.

 

[Belluno]

The Secret Service being as corrupt as the CIA and the FBI is really what I was getting at.

Merge has chosen to be obtuse. At least I hope it was a choice, not a case of Bidinitis which seems to be overcoming the left wing

 

[PiratePride]

Then the natural line would have been to my office which my answer would be the same.

Not really that surprising in jobs where people work a lot of hours. Not condoning, but that's the reality. Millions of people in the US use cocaine.

We don't need to clutch our pearls because politics is involved.

In the large scheme of things, this certainly does not make the top 10 but it is a bit phony to slough it off when it is turning out to be emblematic of the cover ups and deflections and the dishonesty coming out of this administration. They have made the secret service look like total fools when they kept changing the location of where the coke was found. That alone cast suspicions on the whether an honest effort was going to be made to find the owner of that glassine bag. As with Nixon..... it's not the crime.... it's the cover up.

 

[Merge]

The Secret Service being as corrupt as the CIA and the FBI is really what I was getting at.

In regards to none of them caring much about investigating the origin of 0.2 grams of cocaine, sure. I'd agree with that.

I honestly just think people aren't thinking this through. What happens next even if they did find fingerprints on the bag? It's still not a slam dunk conviction when the person isn't in actually in possession of the dugs at the time. Cocaine doesn't stay in your system long so they'd be able to pass a drug test. A good attorney will find an excuse for the fingerprint. Even if they get a conviction, that little amount of cocaine will be a slap on the wrist in the grand scheme.

Doesn't seem as much of a cover up as just not wanting to waste time and energy on something that will ultimately go nowhere no matter what they outcome is.

 

[HALL85]

In regards to none of them caring much about investigating the origin of 0.2 grams of cocaine, sure. I'd agree with that.

I honestly just think people aren't thinking this through. What happens next even if they did find fingerprints on the bag? It's still not a slam dunk conviction when the person isn't in actually in possession of the dugs at the time. Cocaine doesn't stay in your system long so they'd be able to pass a drug test. A good attorney will find an excuse for the fingerprint. Even if they get a conviction, that little amount of cocaine will be a slap on the wrist in the grand scheme.

Doesn't seem as much of a cover up as just not wanting to waste time and energy on something that will ultimately go nowhere no matter what they outcome is.

Why are you just fixating on fingerprints. Video, logs, potential witnesses? I get you are trying to dismiss this but it’s another embarrassment for the Secret Service and their statements have caused more suspicion.

 

[Pirata]

If it were something dangerous to others, I'd agree with that.
In all honesty though, why would a small amount of cocaine be worth that effort?

I'm not saying that to protect anyone. I think the video I posted above is likely showing Hunter taking a bump on camera.

I understand the spirit of what you are saying.

Clearly this issue is a political.

If the truth is that a visitor left it while at the West Wing, then it is no big deal. All the hype about ricin and other chemicals is not valid because they screen for that. A small bag of cocaine is not a threat to the president.

For right leaning people, the issue is getting closure on whether or not this was a drop for Hunter. It ties to his plea deal which to begin with appears overly lenient. If he is still using (which he likely is) then that affects his plea deal. In general, the entire Hunter Biden situation is a bit creepy and troublesome. Hence my previous post about missing Billy Carter.

The optics and communications have not been particularly good.

The location has changed.
No finger prints on the bag or the cubby (not sure if it has a door or is just open).
Are the cubbies assigned by number and logged or is it just random?
No cameras
Was it just the cocaine there or were other things there when found.

 

[knowknow456]

I understand the spirit of what you are saying.

Cleary this issue is a political.

If the truth is that a visitor left it while at the West Wing, then it is no big deal. All the hype about ricin and other chemicals is not valid because they screen for that. A small bag of cocaine is not a threat to the president.

For right leaning people, the issue is getting closure on whether or not this was a drop for Hunter. It ties to his plea deal which to begin with appears overly lenient. If he is still using (which he likely is) then that affects his plea deal. In general, the entire Hunter Biden situation is a bit creepy and troublesome. Hence my previous post about missing Billy Carter.

The optics and communications have not been particularly good.

The location has changed.
No finger prints on the bag or the cubby (not sure if it has a door or is just open).
Are the cubbies assigned by number and logged or is it just random?
No cameras
Was it just the cocaine there or were other things there when found.

Since you asked me about issues –

I find it exceedingly unlikely this is a massive coverup on Hunter Biden although I am not as fixated on him as others are

This is a bad look for the Secret Service because it leaves the impression of gaps in the White House security measures. Substitute Ricin or Anthrax for Cocaine and this is a completely different story.

Overall, I view the issue as a positive thing because it gives us an excellent opportunity to close any security openings. I support the Secret Service (and whoever else handles White House security) and I want them to succeed in their mission. Let’s fix any issues and move on.

 

[Pirata]

I believe they have processes and equipment in place to detect Ricin and Anthrax.

 

[Merge]

If the truth is that a visitor left it while at the West Wing, then it is no big deal. All the hype about ricin and other chemicals is not valid because they screen for that. A small bag of cocaine is not a threat to the president.

For right leaning people, the issue is getting closure on whether or not this was a drop for Hunter. It ties to his plea deal which to begin with appears overly lenient. If he is still using (which he likely is) then that affects his plea deal. In general, the entire Hunter Biden situation is a bit creepy and troublesome. Hence my previous post about missing Billy Carter.

I'd imagine Hunter would get to skip leaving his belongings behind so just I see this as much more likely being dropped by a random person on a private white house tour or a staff member. There were apparently 500 people through that area at the time and the amount of cocaine was similar to a good pinch of salt and would be a misdemeanor. Just really not that surprising that they aren't treating this more significantly from my view.

The location has changed.
No finger prints on the bag or the cubby (not sure if it has a door or is just open).
Are the cubbies assigned by number and logged or is it just random?
No cameras
Was it just the cocaine there or were other things there when found.

Has the location changed from SS or was it just reporters running with a story too quickly?
Sounded more like an unlocked locker from what I read. If they're numbered and logged is certainly a fair question. Though, if unlocked it would still be hard to determine when it was placed without a fingerprint on the bag or actual video evidence of someone holding the bag in view of a camera and placing it in the locker.

 

[PiratePride]

I'd imagine Hunter would get to skip leaving his belongings behind so just I see this as much more likely being dropped by a random person on a private white house tour or a staff member. There were apparently 500 people through that area at the time and the amount of cocaine was similar to a good pinch of salt and would be a misdemeanor. Just really not that surprising that they aren't treating this more significantly from my view.



Has the location changed from SS or was it just reporters running with a story too quickly?
Sounded more like an unlocked locker from what I read. If they're numbered and logged is certainly a fair question. Though, if unlocked it would still be hard to determine when it was placed without a fingerprint on the bag or actual video evidence of someone holding the bag in view of a camera and placing it in the locker.

whether it was from the SS or the WH press secretary.... From what I could tell, the press just mouthed all they were told. Any really alert press corps would have raised questions the very first time the story changed. Where the cocaine was found should NEVER have been in question and it should have come from SS who found it. The story changed at least three times. There is also conflicting information on cameras in the cubby area..... we rely on our government to be straight with us .... this one so far has not. they have deliberately misled us from the start and in so doing have cast the SS in a very bad light. Another security arm of our government that has lost trust.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

If blow was found there in 2018 this story would have a much different spin , focus and response

Two tiered

 

[Pirata]

I'd imagine Hunter would get to skip leaving his belongings behind

When I said "a drop for Hunter" I meant that someone was supplying drugs to Hunter and this was the method they were using. The person visits the West Wing, leaves the coke and then Hunter picks it up.

The thought is that it is hard for Hunter to obtain coke because he in under much scrutiny. he can't just drop out of the house for a bit and go down to a street corner and buy it.

I am not proposing this as my belief of what actually happed. I am only stating that this scenario has been kicked around and it would be better of the SS could have determined what truly happened.

Keep in mind that the SS would sneak women into the White House for JFK's liaisons. And, yes, no one was harmed by this action.

How JFK Turned The White House Into The Playboy Mansion

According to the interviews with Secret Service agents and White House insiders, JFK's women were often prostitutes supplied by organized crime figures.

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