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dehere23 · 2025-06-04T23:56:36-0400

Fishjam said:
Thibs had a very successful 5-year run with the Knicks. He helped change the culture and had them on the precipice of making the Finals. He easily could have remained but I don't think the Knicks necessarily made a bad decision here. Its Championship or bust from now on. The key decision is who they hire and how they can address their weaknesses.

They have to change the way they play on both sides of the ball and Thibs would just be running back the same way and hoping it is enough. Brunson and Towns are the 2 franchise players but they are an imperfect pair on both ends of the floor. Both are below average defenders and they both tend to be very ball dominant offensively. They need more from Bridges who was disappointing as the 3rd option.

And lastly, Thibs works his starters more than anyone. Knicks were dead last in bench minutes and bench points. They need to get deeper and take some miles off the starters.

This reminds me a little of the Yankees firing Buck Showalter after 2 great seasons in 94 and 95. He was key in bringing the Yanks back from oblivion and installing a winning culture. I was shocked and angry at the time but Torre was everything they needed.

I think that’s a good analogy.

Another is Rick Carlisle himself. He did well in Detroit earlier in his career, only to get fired for Larry Brown who elevated the Pistons to that final level.

dehere23 · 2025-06-04T23:51:17-0400

jack 1970 said:
I don't believe SHU has $6M to spend.I think they are still waiting for the House settlement to finalize.We are way too conservative and as a result are getting left behind.

What doesn’t make sense on this is that we are clearly above last year by a decent margin, if you assume Clark alone was in the high six figure range. In the aggregate, we are definitely into some amount of what folks said was “rev share” money, and if that’s the case, what’s the point of just not going full throttle with MOUs. If you are in for a penny, and then some, you should be in for a pound, so to speak.

lloyde dobler · 2025-06-04T23:11:23-0400

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LBP43 · 2025-06-04T23:03:22-0400

dehere23 said:
Slick threw out the first pitch tonight, apparently, and is a fixture at those games. In addition to some Mets games. The guy is everywhere and a promotional machine. Crazy at this age but this is what the guy does.

I just have to tip my cap dehere23--altho it pains me -- he does have the Johnnies Fans in a lather --in JUNE

The_Hall · 2025-06-04T23:02:10-0400

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dehere23 · 2025-06-04T22:59:06-0400

LBP43 said:
Just got sick while listening/watching Yankees v Guardians and having Slicky promote the St Johns program/recruits for half an inning and not seeing any press staements lauding any of the Hall's signings. Guess that would mean Sha's secret plans would be revealed.

Slick threw out the first pitch tonight, apparently, and is a fixture at those games. In addition to some Mets games. The guy is everywhere and a promotional machine. Crazy at this age but this is what the guy does.

The_Hall · 2025-06-04T22:58:36-0400

its so crazy it just might work! LOL

Seton75 · 2025-06-04T22:53:52-0400

i think we have no dough. and no one in admin wants to admit it. which i understand. better to act like we have money than to advertise we are broke.

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LeftCoastPirates · 2025-06-04T22:44:13-0400

Does anyone truly believe the currently rostered players represent anything close to $6M in total NIL commitments?

If you do, then I have some magic beans to sell you. And then you can give them to Sha because that’s what he is going to need to make this roster competitive.

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SOBO1 · 2025-06-04T21:29:16-0400

In seton hall’s defense they know the situation is bad. How do you promote these signings? We’ve signed bench players from last place teams in weaker conferences.

CL82 · 2025-06-04T21:18:24-0400

CT Pirate said:
CL - that was Borges interpretation of Hurley's comments. I read the piece and it was all Borges thinking without any substance from Hurley other than a throwaway quote. My question is if Hurley wants a "drama free summer" he could of put out a not interested statement. You would think he would at least listen. It appears his course of action by the lack of a statement.

New York Post thinks the same thing:

Dan Hurley makes Knicks stance clear as rumors swirl about UConn coach’s interest

Dan Hurley’s future served as the talk of the college basketball world spanning the nearly 3,000 miles from Los Angeles to Storrs, Conn. around this time last year when the Lakers had an open…

nypost.com

That said, I agree with you. It isn't in unequivocal denial. I was worried with the whole LA dalliance, but this one really isn't bothering me.

LBP43 · 2025-06-04T21:10:24-0400

Just got sick while listening/watching Yankees v Guardians and having Slicky promote the St Johns program/recruits for half an inning and not seeing any press staements lauding any of the Hall's signings. Guess that would mean Sha's secret plans would be revealed.

SHUHoopsFan · 2025-06-04T21:00:35-0400

I worry about the OOC. I always felt the biggest differences between majors and mid majors was the quality of bigs and depth. I think we’re going to have to play up tempo and wear teams down.

HallLine69 · 2025-06-04T21:00:06-0400

Second rate players, either not enough money to spend or poor judgment in managing the spend. How can we possibly compete in this landscape?

To me, we are going to be the perennial cellar dweller in the Big East. We behave and spend like a mid-major. That increasingly looks like what we are. We would be better off in the MAAC. Heresy? Prior to NIL it would have been. Not now. Barring a seismic shift in the environment of the sport, we are going nowhere in the Big East.

jack 1970 · 2025-06-04T20:29:58-0400

SOBO1 said:
You're not getting an All-American type kid for $1.5M but Goodman (I think it was him) reported that the low end for a HM all-conference player was $1.5M. We could have gotten 2 of these players.

I just pray that the full $6M wasn't at his disposal for some reason, because if it was.........they are beyond wildly incompetent.

The administration is wildly incompetent.We have seen innumerable examples of that.

SOBO1 · 2025-06-04T20:27:12-0400

You're not getting an All-American type kid for $1.5M but Goodman (I think it was him) reported that the low end for a HM all-conference player was $1.5M. We could have gotten 2 of these players.

I just pray that the full $6M wasn't at his disposal for some reason, because if it was.........they are beyond wildly incompetent.

chickenbox · 2025-06-04T20:22:32-0400

jack 1970 said:
I don't believe SHU has $6M to spend.I think they are still waiting for the House settlement to finalize.We are way too conservative and as a result are getting left behind.

Agree. No way we've spent near that on who we've brought in

chickenbox · 2025-06-04T20:20:05-0400

NYC Pirate said:
I believe the new recruits will do better in the OOC against the Hofstra's of the world. Maybe an upset against a Power Conference team at home or in a neutral site venue. After that they will take their lumps in The BigEast unless they add some height. This recruiting strategy is kind of odd to say the least.

Agree that may drop fewer low-major games. Big east could be worse

jack 1970 · 2025-06-04T20:18:04-0400

HALL85 said:
Let’s say he’s got the $6 million. Studs are going for $2 M+, so two players are going to take 80% of your budget. And he would have little left to fill out the roster. Why would two studs sign up for that?

And that’s not his coaching style. He’s going to live and die with this plan, but maybe it’s the only path he has right now.

We have no $2M studs.

Seton75 · 2025-06-04T20:08:33-0400

the state should hire sone lawyers to look into it lol

HALL85 · 2025-06-04T19:57:48-0400

Let’s say he’s got the $6 million. Studs are going for $2 M+, so two players are going to take 80% of your budget. And he would have little left to fill out the roster. Why would two studs sign up for that?

And that’s not his coaching style. He’s going to live and die with this plan, but maybe it’s the only path he has right now.

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