LeftCoastPirates said:

Recorded prior to this Sunday’s set back to DePaul. Stayed as positive as we could based on the first 10 games, but not sure what will be left in the tank after the next 10.
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Do you mind if I ask: Who runs this Rivals account, Tom or Mike? If this was ever said, I missed it.

Thanks for another episode. I know most of the fun's been drained from doing this for now....

dehere23 said:

Also it’s not necessarily year to year mercenaries.

They are pros more than ever, no doubt, but the top 4 teams in the Big East have pretty good to excellent continuity between last year and this one.

And at least some of these kids are still pursuing academics too I’m sure.

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Agree the top four have some continuity but in great part because they have the $$$ to maintain that continuity.

seeing a lot of fire lyons talk. personally i thought he was great when he was AD.

i thought he was in charge of the academic side now, not just sports?

Hall-O-Daze said:

He was essentially splitting time with Zach Collins though, no?

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No. Collins is in the rotation, Mamu is bench. Hope that changes with the trade but I don’t see it.

newshu1 said:

Dual is anything but a dog, he is lazy guy who averaged 2ppg last year. The word was out on him last year. I am talking about under the radar guys at low majors who work hard like Bediako, or look what the Drake Coach is doing with former D2 guys

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Bediako was great find but I think it led to the coaching staff thinking they could strike gold repeatedly. IMO a program can’t be run that way in the NIL era. Really, bring in a bunch of D2 guys? This is the BE, not the MVC. If this group has a hard time competing, just imagine what a bunch of D2 guys would do.

Think we will get a good contingent out in Maui next year?

I’m not going to pretend to know exactly what role the new Pres had in the McCarrick scandal. I believe the gist of this is that Reilly was young when the whole McCarrick scandal was unfolding and ended up being like many other clergy at that time too clueless to blow a whistle. Meaning that his defense is that he was one of many that didn’t know what to do but didn’t partake in any of the wrong doings.

I think the reality is that like most Priests his age, they were all at some level exposed to the abuses that were going on in the Catholic Church. I don’t think it makes them guilty, but your definition of innocence would likely lead to SHU not being able to hire any Priest likely over the age of 40 right now.

Father Reilly should probably step down, but I assume the BoRs want him to stay in place for reasons noted above plus, he comes cheap. We were paying Nyre a lot of $.

Blueandwhite22 said:

This was our strategy this year.. guys trying to showcase talent who were so called dogs.. the strategy didn’t work

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Dual is anything but a dog, he is lazy guy who averaged 2ppg last year. The word was out on him last year. I am talking about under the radar guys at low majors who work hard like Bediako, or look what the Drake Coach is doing with former D2 guys

I ran an international consulting firm for decades and there was one clear fact in every case. Those who created the negative outcomes in an organization were never able to create positive effective change. I love Seton Hall, but if she was my client I would seriously challenge this Board and President to create positive opportunities out of the local chaos. Sadly, I believe that insular thinking and negative posturing will be the order of the day.

SHUMatt said:

We were almost 2 years behind everyone else in preparing for NIL. Then we imposed rules on ourselves that no one else did. That put us further behind. Since then, we are falling further behind while trying to play catchup. Someone or several people need to be held accountable for their inaction. Heads need to roll or we will be bottom of the Big East for years to come.

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And we were told all along we are not behind - for years!!

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Section112 said:

It’s on all of them. Sha, Felt, Lyons and all of our past Presidents swinging thru the revolving Presidents door. Also heavily on our biggest donors the BORs. Sha has to lead the NIL charge though. He’s the one that has to be the face of the program and tell these folks to get it done or get out of the way. It’s on him first. It’s a major uphill battle.

In the court, this is also the first year in a long time where you are seeing very little improvement in how the team plays and that’s on Sha. It’s a monumental task with this flawed roster and now the injuries. But they seem very disjointed and make the same mistakes over and over. Tough to watch our program right now.

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Good point about revolving door Presidents. This our 3rd in 10 years? Talk about continuity with the team and players, how about some continuity, commitment and competence from SHU’s institutional leadership.

I am absolutely baffled that the Chairman of our Board and the President have yet to step down. Their continued presence is inexcusable.

Having handled cases involving sexual assault at major institutions, I have direct experience with how organizations navigate these crises. I’ve worked on:

• 8,000 clergy abuse cases
• 2,000 Mormon Church cases
• 40 Larry Nassar cases (Michigan State)
• 25 Dr. Anderson cases (University of Michigan)
• 3,000 Boy Scout cases

With the exception of the clergy, nearly every institution above acted more decisively in severing ties with individuals connected to these scandals. The failure to do so here is not just shortsighted—it’s outright negligent. How are we still in this position?

In an era where institutional accountability is paramount, their collective failure to act swiftly and decisively is beyond negligent—it is outright disgusting. They have not only failed the university, but they have actively endangered its reputation, its students, and its future.

There is no need to be carrying Lyons compensation at that level,

The problem right now is that it’s very unclear who is running the school and is in a position to objectively assess what led to the situation we’re now in and determine what needs to be done. I think everyone was hoping Hank would be the guy, but now there’s doubts given how he came out and supported the new Pres.

We were almost 2 years behind everyone else in preparing for NIL. Then we imposed rules on ourselves that no one else did. That put us further behind. Since then, we are falling further behind while trying to play catchup. Someone or several people need to be held accountable for their inaction. Heads need to roll or we will be bottom of the Big East for years to come.

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SHUHoopsFan said:

I'm not going to say you're wrong, but what confidence do you have we will get better people? Every time we're convinced we can't go lower, we find a way. It's gotten to the point, it's actually impressive. It's almost like they believe we should be going below the bar instead of above it.

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I have no confidence seton hall will make the necessary moves or hire the right people.

The question that needs to be answered is given the schools reputation and its current financial position hiring replacements who are skilled and have the ability to turn this mess around will not be easy.

SHUHitman said:

FWIW, Whitehead has been on Twitter alluding to having some plans in mind to help. He brought our program out of the dumpster before, perhaps he can find a way again.

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And arguing with St. John’s fans who seem to be still bitter

Gohall129 said:

Lyons is paid nearly 900k per year. Needs to go. Felt is upwards of 350k per year. Needs to go

Both played a direct role in the complete mismanagement of university strategy and preparedness for NIL.

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I'm not going to say you're wrong, but what confidence do you have we will get better people? Every time we're convinced we can't go lower, we find a way. It's gotten to the point, it's actually impressive. It's almost like they believe we should be going below the bar instead of above it.

SHUHitman said:

FWIW, Whitehead has been on Twitter alluding to having some plans in mind to help. He brought our program out of the dumpster before, perhaps he can find a way again.

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Hopefully he will be suiting up. That would solve alot of our problems.

Lyons is paid nearly 900k per year. Needs to go. Felt is upwards of 350k per year. Needs to go

Both played a direct role in the complete mismanagement of university strategy and preparedness for NIL.

FWIW, Whitehead has been on Twitter alluding to having some plans in mind to help. He brought our program out of the dumpster before, perhaps he can find a way again.

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