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How inflated / what is the current market for players

This is directed more at Dan / SPK / anyone in the know. I’ve been looking at the players who’ve entered the portal so far and yes some are talented but I just don’t get where the market is. I’m sitting here looking at players and thinking wow 5 million dollars we should have 0 problem recruiting, but are these mid major players averaging 10-14 points really getting over 500k that’s just nuts to me when last year dre left for 800k after averaging 14 per game on a NIT champion team.

2 (Maybe 8) Steps Behind

It goes higher than Lyons.
Lyons answers to the President. That in itself may cause an issue given the non athletic problems over there. Until we have a firm answer as to what is happening with Msgr. Reilly it is hard to replace Lyons and/or Felt because no one in those positions is coming aboard without knowing who the President is. At this point we really haven’t even heard what Reilly’s plans and vision are for the university going forward.

Willard & Maryland 2nd Place In b1g…..

I don't buy the fact that Powell came here for nothing. He wasn't even a top 75 player in his class according to 247 sports. Did he come here for 100K a year, no but I'm sure we took care of him. I'll bet the real number was higher than 500 total kids in the entire landscape. I mean it's pretty obvious when you see the ink on their bodies from freshman to senior year. Or take a trip on Seton Hall's campus, not exactly loaded with funding, and seeing cars the players are driving. Well more than 75 across the entire landscape.

Again, those coaches didn't have the opportunity to go to places like Bunny's or down to Prudential in Newark and say let's work out a deal. You're still ignoring that fact. Now that you can do that of course more guys are going to get paid. It's the same game on a much bigger scale because you can go out build relationships you never could before. Gonzo was labeled a shark, but in today's game Seton Hall could do well with a shark who is relentless going around Northern NJ and hitting up the businesses.
Gonzo bought melvyn oliver

Willard & Maryland 2nd Place In b1g…..

Powell was a top 80 recruit out of high school and I wonder if he got paid his freshman year. I doubt it.

Senior year for his AA season? Sure. That’s well within the top 75 players I mentioned.

But I also specifically didn’t mention Powell above. You brought him into the conversation.
Please we had go finagle things to get the 50th recruit in Delgado and you’re trying to sell only 75 players in all of basketball were paid. That’s so far off, I don’t know where to begin. If it was only 75 in all of basketball, we wouldn’t have to finagle for the 50th in one class.

Willard & Maryland 2nd Place In b1g…..

I don't buy the fact that Powell came here for nothing. He wasn't even a top 75 player in his class according to 247 sports. Did he come here for 100K a year, no but I'm sure we took care of him. I'll bet the real number was higher than 500 total kids in the entire landscape. I mean it's pretty obvious when you see the ink on their bodies from freshman to senior year. Or take a trip on Seton Hall's campus, not exactly loaded with funding, and seeing cars the players are driving. Well more than 75 across the entire landscape.

Again, those coaches didn't have the opportunity to go to places like Bunny's or down to Prudential in Newark and say let's work out a deal. You're still ignoring that fact. Now that you can do that of course more guys are going to get paid. It's the same game on a much bigger scale because you can go out build relationships you never could before. Gonzo was labeled a shark, but in today's game Seton Hall could do well with a shark who is relentless going around Northern NJ and hitting up the businesses.
Powell was a top 80 recruit out of high school and I wonder if he got paid his freshman year. I doubt it.

Senior year for his AA season? Sure. That’s well within the top 75 players I mentioned.

But I also specifically didn’t mention Powell above. You brought him into the conversation.

2 (Maybe 8) Steps Behind

I was agreeing with you and questioning whether the problem goes higher (Lyons) and whether they should both be gone. Get people in place who want to do the job and demand that others do their job to the highest standards as well. Currently, it does not seem like anyone fitting this description works in the administration we are speaking about. We need a change!
It goes higher than Lyons.

Willard & Maryland 2nd Place In b1g…..

2-4 people in a host of schools were covering maybe 75 total kids in the entire college landscape.
I don't buy the fact that Powell came here for nothing. He wasn't even a top 75 player in his class according to 247 sports. Did he come here for 100K a year, no but I'm sure we took care of him. I'll bet the real number was higher than 500 total kids in the entire landscape. I mean it's pretty obvious when you see the ink on their bodies from freshman to senior year. Or take a trip on Seton Hall's campus, not exactly loaded with funding, and seeing cars the players are driving. Well more than 75 across the entire landscape.

Again, those coaches didn't have the opportunity to go to places like Bunny's or down to Prudential in Newark and say let's work out a deal. You're still ignoring that fact. Now that you can do that of course more guys are going to get paid. It's the same game on a much bigger scale because you can go out build relationships you never could before. Gonzo was labeled a shark, but in today's game Seton Hall could do well with a shark who is relentless going around Northern NJ and hitting up the businesses.

Willard & Maryland 2nd Place In b1g…..

How can you misjudge a market you have zero dollars to spend on?

How do you know he didn’t ask for it?

Just to be clear: when a SWAC coach can’t get a Kadary Richmond or lets a player transfer out to a school that can pay him it’s the coach’s fault?
I thought it was common knowledge around here that Sha sets what he feels is a reasonable price and doesn’t budge off of that number. Maybe I’m misinterpreting but regarding Samuel, NIL was brand new, and Sha stubbornly moved on.
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