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radecicco said:
Politi is always going to take the easy cheap shot. Agree with your comment about the facilities and then he piled on the narrative about outer NIL. Right now it’s accurate, but he relishes the thought it’s never going to change.

Posters, incorrectly IMO, criticize Carino as being a homer for SHU. What does that make
Politi for RU?
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Go to the RU board sometime - Politi is hated as anti RU by many folks threr
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Jerry's best coverage - Case Dropped

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Check out this story from Asbury Park Press: 'Beyond upset': Case dropped in Manalapan man's Navy SEAL death

The two officers that the Navy had accused of dereliction of duty in the Navy SEALs training death of Kyle Mullen will not face any punishment.

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'Just letting them off': Case dropped against officers in Manalapan Navy SEAL death

The two officers that the Navy had accused of dereliction of duty in the Navy SEALs training death of Kyle Mullen will not face any punishment.
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Garden State Hardwood Classic Set For 3 P.M. Saturday On FOX

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Garden State Hardwood Classic Set For 3 P.M. Saturday On FOX - Seton Hall University Athletics

The in-state rivalry between Seton Hall and Rutgers will be renewed on Saturday when the Pirates travel to Piscataway to take on the Scarlet Knights in the G...
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SETON HALL PIRATES (5-5) vs. RUTGERS SCARLET KNIGHTS (6-4)

GAME INFORMATION
Date/Time: Saturday, Dec. 14 • 3 p.m. Eastern
Site: Piscataway, N.J. • Jersey Mike's Arena (8,000)
TV: FOX • Tim Brando & Donny Marshall
Online: FOXSports.com/Live
Radio: SHU Pirates Mobile App • Gary Cohen & Dave Popkin • SHUPirates.com • Varsity Network App
Satellite: SiriusXM 391 | SXM App 981
Seton Hall All-Time vs. Rutgers: 42-32

NOTES YOU NEED TO KNOW

  • The in-state rivalry between Seton Hall and Rutgers will be renewed on Saturday when the Pirates travel to Piscataway to take on the Scarlet Knights in the Garden State Hardwood Classic at 3 p.m.
  • The two schools are separated by an approximate 27- mile drive.
  • The Garden State Hardwood Classic trophy is custom-made and handcrafted from wood salvaged from the Asbury Park boardwalk in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy and features the names of the winners engraved on the back.
  • The Joe Calabrese MVP Award is given to the player of the game on the winning team of the Seton Hall-Rutgers game, and the award is named after the former journalist who passed away in 1999 and was a fixture in New Jersey sports journalism for 38 years.
  • The Pirates defeated the Scarlet Knights in a defensive battle in the last meeting at Jersey Mike's Arena where The Hall edged out RU, 45-43.
  • That win on 12/11/22 marked the first time since 2015 that the road team took home the GSHC trophy.
  • Following Rutgers' win in Newark last season, the road team has been victorious in the last two meetings.
  • Head coach Shaheen Holloway went 4-1 against Rutgers as a player and is 1-1 as a head coach.
  • Seton Hall is 42-32 all-time against Rutgers and the Pirates have won seven of the last 10 meetings.
  • In the last 29 meetings, 22 games have been decided by six points or fewer and five contests have gone to overtime.
  • At 74 all-time meetings, Rutgers is Seton Hall's eighth most-played opponent.
  • Holloway is cousins with Rutgers associate head coach Brandin Knight.
  • Knight attended Seton Hall Prep, his father, Melvin, is in the Seton Hall Athletics Hall of Fame and was an assistant coach under Bill Raftery while also serving as associate AD under Riche Regan.
  • Knight's mother, Brenda, is currently an assistant to the dean of the College of Arts & Sciences at Seton Hall.
  • Seton Hall and Rutgers are two of only 18 teams in Division I who have played at least four games against in-state, non-conference DI opponents.
  • Seton Hall scored a season-high 76 points and a season-best 50 points in the second half in its loss to Oklahoma State.
  • Scotty Middleton finished with a career-high 16 points on 4-of-4 shooting from deep off the bench and Garwey Dual dished out a career-best nine assists against the Cowboys.
  • Since missing the Monmouth game with an illness, Dylan Addae-Wusu has averaged 11.0 points and 2.5 assists over his last two games.
  • Among active players in Div. I, Dylan Addae-Wusu ranks 29th in games played (137), 17th in steals (190) and 47th in assists (378).
  • Addae-Wusu and Creighton's Ryan Kalkbrenner share the lead among active players with 78 career BIG EAST games played.
  • Seton Hall has held five opponents under 60 points this season.
  • The Pirates boast one of the top defenses in Div. I, ranking 32nd in KenPom defensive efficiency, 11th in scoring defense (56.6 ppg) and 60th in field goal percentage defense (40.0 pct).
  • The Pirates turned in a third-place finish at the Charleston Classic where they went 2-1 with top-100 KenPom wins over VCU (40) and Florida Atlantic (96).
  • Their third-place finish in Charleston was The Hall's best finish at an MTE since winning the Wooden Legacy in 2018-19.
  • Isaiah Coleman was named to the Charleston Classic All-Tournament Team and the BIG EAST Weekly Honor Roll after averaging 13.3 points and 7.0 rebounds per game in three games.
  • Coleman posted his first career double-double with 12 points and 10 rebounds against VCU and had a career-high 20 points against Vanderbilt.
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Selfish Joe

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Putting spies in Catholic Churches to look for terriosits,saying we don’t know if Trump was hit by a bullet may have been shrapnel and FBI issues statement saying it was a bullet two days later,taking major cities data out of comparison so crime data look not as bad which is what Dems were claiming etc Too often people appointed change their views which means vetting right at time done.
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And Here It Is

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Piratz said:
He’s right on the premise of the article. All those passionate rivalries are based on actual passion from players and fans. Guys devoted to their schools, not mercenaries. But its out of anyone’s control. This is what it is now, and the fans will still provide the energy. Someday I do think it’ll get back to more continuity because coaches are going to go insane.

I think he’s wrong about the facilities and it’s a stupid, ignorant thing to say. Great, you’re competitive with an NIL and your facilities look like a 1983 high school. Then it’ll be the facilities issue. You need both, period, or your NIL has to also out-price the facility comps.

I don’t blame Sha for the comment, but hey, now he can start helping out with donations too!! You gotta be good enough to beat Fordham and Monmouth at home, c’mon.
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Politi is always going to take the easy cheap shot. Agree with your comment about the facilities and then he piled on the narrative about outer NIL. Right now it’s accurate, but he relishes the thought it’s never going to change.

Posters, incorrectly IMO, criticize Carino as being a homer for SHU. What does that make
Politi for RU?
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And Here It Is

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He’s right on the premise of the article. All those passionate rivalries are based on actual passion from players and fans. Guys devoted to their schools, not mercenaries. But its out of anyone’s control. This is what it is now, and the fans will still provide the energy. Someday I do think it’ll get back to more continuity because coaches are going to go insane.

I think he’s wrong about the facilities and it’s a stupid, ignorant thing to say. Great, you’re competitive with an NIL and your facilities look like a 1983 high school. Then it’ll be the facilities issue. You need both, period, or your NIL has to also out-price the facility comps.

I don’t blame Sha for the comment, but hey, now he can start helping out with donations too!! You gotta be good enough to beat Fordham and Monmouth at home, c’mon.
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Juan Gone!

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Fishjam said:
Love the Williams addition but hate they traded Durbin. I really wanted Durbin to be our 2B. He's a Chuck Knoblauch-type who had a great year in AAA and just dominated the Arizona Fall League the last 2 years. Great baserunner and leadoff hitter. Guess they see Jazz at 2B - his natural position.
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Yea I didn’t know much about Durbin before this year. Prospects are prospects. He didn’t strike me as the off-limits type.

I think they see Jazz at 2b or if they find another good 2b option he can play 3b
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And Here It Is

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Fishjam said:
I agree with your premise that you need to have 2-3 players to build around. I also believe that for Sha, continuity and player leadership are huge. Even more so than the average coach because of his intensity and personality. They can be a shock to new players and you need a strong-minded experienced leader(s) to help the new players adjust.

For those reasons I felt we should have gone all out to keep one of Dre or KR, knowing we'd never keep both. I felt Dre was more realistic as the combo of Pitino and Repole would keep raising their offer in a Steve Cohen-like way. Kadary is much more valuable as a versatile PG but Dre has great work ethic and leadership qualities.

I don't believe we had close to $2M to spend but no one will discuss actual figures. Let's say we had $1.5m and roughly half of that would have kept Dre, you would likely have had to do without about 6 players from the current roster, at least 4 of which are in the rotation.

By my best guesstimate (just an educated guess) our players fall in 1 of 3 tiers with regard to how much NIL they got. To afford Dre you'd have to lose at least 2 players from each tier to cover Dre and leave a minimal amount for 5 replacements. It may be closer to 3 players from Tier 1

Tier 1
Dylan
Coleman
Dual
Middleton
Chaunce

Tier 2
Toumi
Aligbe
Okorafor

Tier 3
Gus
Harmon
Tubek
Godswill
Felton

Would we be better off with Dre? Yes, no doubt but we'd have a much weaker roster around him than we do now. There's no easy answers when working with a very small bbudget.We just have to be better at everything.

We have to become better recruiters, better at identifying traits that can work in Sha's system. Better at researching injuries or other potential issues with transfers. Find some veteran guys that play tough and have some skills but may lack the size. There are plenty of skilled but undersized guards that could help us. Get a hard-nosed, physical undersized 6'7" big. Get some tough players from Jersey and NYC!! Thats who we are and we have only 1 guy on the roster who is local! Sha took a shot with many guys who have the physical traits but lack the skills or the mindset or the experience.

And Sha needs to look at changing his offense and how he's preparing his teams in the summer. In 3 years he's made a lot of excuses why his teams didn't have good offseasons and it's a direct correlation to poor OOC seasons.
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I would maybe say Harmon might fall into tier 1 because he’s an upperclassman and was an all conference player but in a weak conference. I would say get rid of Dual, Aligbe, Harmon. I would also say get rid of Okorafor and use the extra to get a mid major or even d2 natural PG who can shoot. Chaunce, Dylan, Felton can handle backup PG duty.
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Juan Gone!

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dehere23 said:
I loved Soto. Tremendous bat. Glad we made the deal even if it was for one year and we gave up talent, especially King. Made a World Series and had a great season. Would do it again, because how often do you have that level of success (again, thank GOD the Yankees have been in my life the last 30+ years, given that I also route for the Hall and Knicks, and Gmen (who despite down years still have some great success any fan would kill for).

I don't want us to "overpay" for a big righty bat. We have enough of that. Build the rotation (Fried), bullpen (Williams, Loisaga), and find me some left-handed hitter/athletic options for the corners.
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Love the Williams addition but hate they traded Durbin. I really wanted Durbin to be our 2B. He's a Chuck Knoblauch-type who had a great year in AAA and just dominated the Arizona Fall League the last 2 years. Great baserunner and leadoff hitter. Guess they see Jazz at 2B - his natural position.
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donnie_baseball said:
I can't disagree with a lot of what he says. The good thing is that this absolute dope has proclaimed the rivalry dead on numerous occasions - and has been wrong every time.
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I still remember when they got Mike Rosario and he published a story basically saying we'd never beat them again. I'd say that one aged like milk but it would be an insult to the shelf life of milk.
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rdefabri said:
Is the issue how much money we have or how we use what we've got?

By some accounts, it's estimated we're around $2M (correct me if I'm wrong). Do you spread $2M across 10 players or across 2-3?

I coached youth sports, and I can tell you having even one ringer can elevate a team. 2-3 really solid players with a supporting cast is a much better prospect these days IMHO.
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I agree with your premise that you need to have 2-3 players to build around. I also believe that for Sha, continuity and player leadership are huge. Even more so than the average coach because of his intensity and personality. They can be a shock to new players and you need a strong-minded experienced leader(s) to help the new players adjust.

For those reasons I felt we should have gone all out to keep one of Dre or KR, knowing we'd never keep both. I felt Dre was more realistic as the combo of Pitino and Repole would keep raising their offer in a Steve Cohen-like way. Kadary is much more valuable as a versatile PG but Dre has great work ethic and leadership qualities.

I don't believe we had close to $2M to spend but no one will discuss actual figures. Let's say we had $1.5m and roughly half of that would have kept Dre, you would likely have had to do without about 6 players from the current roster, at least 4 of which are in the rotation.

By my best guesstimate (just an educated guess) our players fall in 1 of 3 tiers with regard to how much NIL they got. To afford Dre you'd have to lose at least 2 players from each tier to cover Dre and leave a minimal amount for 5 replacements. It may be closer to 3 players from Tier 1

Tier 1
Dylan
Coleman
Dual
Middleton
Chaunce

Tier 2
Toumi
Aligbe
Okorafor

Tier 3
Gus
Harmon
Tubek
Godswill
Felton

Would we be better off with Dre? Yes, no doubt but we'd have a much weaker roster around him than we do now. There's no easy answers when working with a very small bbudget.We just have to be better at everything.

We have to become better recruiters, better at identifying traits that can work in Sha's system. Better at researching injuries or other potential issues with transfers. Find some veteran guys that play tough and have some skills but may lack the size. There are plenty of skilled but undersized guards that could help us. Get a hard-nosed, physical undersized 6'7" big. Get some tough players from Jersey and NYC!! Thats who we are and we have only 1 guy on the roster who is local! Sha took a shot with many guys who have the physical traits but lack the skills or the mindset or the experience.

And Sha needs to look at changing his offense and how he's preparing his teams in the summer. In 3 years he's made a lot of excuses why his teams didn't have good offseasons and it's a direct correlation to poor OOC seasons.
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Fishjam said:
Huge loss for the Yanks especially considering they gave a nice package of players to get him for just 1 year. Steinbrenners run the Yankees like a business and Cohen running Mets like he loves it - same as George did. Not looking to maximize profits, he's looking to win.

If Cashman is savvy the Yankees can come out of this fine. They can fill their biggest weaknesses from last year - poor defense, poor base-running and shaky bullpen. Come out of this with an excellent pitching staff, much stronger defense, and a lineup that is more athletic, versatile and can run the bases.

Signing Fried was a solid move to give them a strong rotation with various different looks. Cole, Fried, Rodon, Gil, Schmidt, Nestor - that's 3 RHPs and 3 LHPs with different looks. I would now look to add 2 power arms to the bullpen. Can use Stroman and maybe Nestor as a trade piece.

I would trade for Bellinger (will cost money only) who is a plus defender at 1B and OF. Then sit and wait for a smart move to present itself to add another hitter - can be a corner infielder or Outfielder. 3 strong candidates - Christian Walker is enticing as a Gold Glove 1B or if the price is reasonable, OF Kyle Tucker (trade) or 3B Bregman (FA). Perhaps someone else becomes available via trade as they have Startiing Pitching to deal.

They have choices on who they bring in because they would have 2 guys who play multiple positions - Bellinger 1B, CF or LF and Chisolm 3B, 2B or CF. Also have 2 young players who look ready to step in in CF (Dominquez) and 2B (Durbin).
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I loved Soto. Tremendous bat. Glad we made the deal even if it was for one year and we gave up talent, especially King. Made a World Series and had a great season. Would do it again, because how often do you have that level of success (again, thank GOD the Yankees have been in my life the last 30+ years, given that I also route for the Hall and Knicks, and Gmen (who despite down years still have some great success any fan would kill for).

I don't want us to "overpay" for a big righty bat. We have enough of that. Build the rotation (Fried), bullpen (Williams, Loisaga), and find me some left-handed hitter/athletic options for the corners.
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