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1st Debate

Hate is an ideology not an organization. Should no president condemn hate? It was just a really stupid approach by Biden especially because white supremacy is an ideology not an organization and something he should want to challenge Trump on. But based on his own response it makes it impossible because he would be giving Trump an easy out.
Trump interrupted the q re white supremacy to say yes (I denounce). Then he went on a tangent and Biden couldn’t denounce anything except to reverse course to say Trump should’ve brought in NG. How about Biden saying I’m not green new deal, then touted it until he was corrected by Wallace. Biden is mentally unfit. Trump is smart although a dick and bully (which is among the reasons why he won in 16)
 
Nothing more to add about how horrendous that was last night. Trying to reflect this morning, I ask the question does it change anything. Just by reading this thread it doesn't sound like it's changed anyone's opinion on who they might vote.

That was so bad last night, the only thing that might happen is that fewer people go to the polls and vote altogether.

The one bizzaro stat I heard driving in this morning is that 2/3 of Telemundo viewers thought Trump won the debate. https://www.newsweek.com/66-percent...undo-poll-think-trump-just-won-debate-1535176
The Hispanic vote is Trumps ticket to a second term. If he wins it will be from minority voters. He’s a hero to many blue collar workers, they would go to war for him. Now he needs to work on the dead voters, Dems have owned the dead voters. I have a feeling the dead voters could carry Joe to victory.
 
The Hispanic vote is Trumps ticket to a second term. If he wins it will be from minority voters. He’s a hero to many blue collar workers, they would go to war for him. Now he needs to work on the dead voters, Dems have owned the dead voters. I have a feeling the dead voters could carry Joe to victory.
Please expand on this? Less taxes out per week gives them an extra 50 to 150 net take home?

 
It’s irrelevant.
The debate rating is irrelevant but nfl rating fluctuations while still being most watched programming is relevant to you got it. Figure this, nbc snf is the most watched show 10 years plus in america. Yet 6 percent of country population (20 million) watch per week.
 
The debate rating is irrelevant but nfl rating fluctuations while still being most watched programming is relevant to you got it. Figure this, nbc snf is the most watched show 10 years plus in america. Yet 6 percent of country population (20 million) watch per week.
Stay in your lane bro. Don’t know why this is so hard for you to understand. Comparing ratings of debates shows either increase or decrease in interest. You can keep cherry picking NFL ratings but overall they are down. Pretty simple concept.
 
I don't care for the majority of ShoreGuy's posts, but he's only in his lane when discussing the media, it seems. Definitely more apples-to-apples to compare with previous debates, but still the 2nd most watched anything this year (though, it seems, after the Super Bowl, there hasn't been much anything).
 
Please expand on this? Less taxes out per week gives them an extra 50 to 150 net take home?

Never said anything about less taxes per week, I think with minorities, especially Hispanics he has a lot of appeal. It’s been Trump against thousands of Main Street media and political elite. Do you think Chuck and Nancy are appealing to the working class? Contrary to what most believe working class people want to work and provide for their families. Good article though because I would agree Trump is his own worst enemy. How is Biden’s train tour going? He’s attracting all the working class folks in PA.?
Sad to see 30 people waiting for him at each stop, he’s a member of Washington elite whose luck and BS are running out of steam. (no pun intended)It doesn’t help him having Harris at his side, she has as much appeal as Chuck and Nancy. Just my opinion but I just don’t see the enthusiasm for this pair.
 
80% of our work force is Hispanic...there are a lot of Trump bumper stickers. I think he will do much better this time around but it won’t be enough to offset losses with other demographics.
 
I don't care for the majority of ShoreGuy's posts, but he's only in his lane when discussing the media, it seems. Definitely more apples-to-apples to compare with previous debates, but still the 2nd most watched anything this year (though, it seems, after the Super Bowl, there hasn't been much anything).

I guess if you work in the industry it may matter, but I've never met a person who cared about TV ratings.
 
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80% of our work force is Hispanic...there are a lot of Trump bumper stickers. I think he will do much better this time around but it won’t be enough to offset losses with other demographics.
On November 2nd if the race is within the margin of error it will matter. I personally think that when push comes to shove many Moms of all colors will be voting Trump. Again, not a fan of Trump the person but I'm a results guy. Learned a long time ago I do not need to like someone to support them. Trump stands for something like it or not you know where he stands, Biden stands for nothing ZERO. My mistake he stands for your vote no matter what, and most people are sick of people who are afraid to stand for something anything come on man anything. Trump will go down in history Pro life and not afraid to admit it. No beating around the bush. Trump is transparently ignorant where Biden is transparently deceptive. Personally I'm done with transparently deceptive politicians, the sooner the democrats realize that the better.
 
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Interesting that it was watched by 10 million fewer than the first Trump/Clinton debate. You would think with little campaigning and everyone stuck at home, that ratings would have been higher. Prelude to voter turnout?
Yes 73 mil over 16 linear/cable platforms, where hil/trump I was 84 mil over 13 linear/cable platforms
 
I guess if you work in the industry it may matter, but I've never met a person who cared about TV ratings.
I personally don't nor am i influnced by advertisements shown ever for any products...but the maga/dont woke me bro crowd here seem to think that nfl is gonna crumble in domestic viewership. The nhl just ended their season lowest scf viewing since 2007.
I would say media buyers and ad sales reps at platforms care mightily about ratings and consumption
 
That something is himself. He will only care for something that benefits him.



That is laughable.
He was never pro-life until he decided to be a politician.
So he took a Pro Life stance that nobody in history wanted to touch to benefit himself as a Politician. Thanks for the heads up, guess your saying he's a pretty smart guy. I was wondering why Joe didn't do that but now I know.
 
So he took a Pro Life stance that nobody in history wanted to touch to benefit himself as a Politician. Thanks for the heads up, guess your saying he's a pretty smart guy. I was wondering why Joe didn't do that but now I know.

What do you mean nobody in history wanted to touch? Most republican politicians are pro-life, and most democratic politicians are pro-choice. Unfortunately, it would be extremely difficult to win a primary if you weren't on board with the party line. Trump's opportunity was to run as a republican, and before that had declared that "I am pro-choice in every respect." so he needed to change his view.

If you told him he would win in 2020 if he said he supports choice, he wouldn't hesitate.
 
So he took a Pro Life stance that nobody in history wanted to touch to benefit himself as a Politician. Thanks for the heads up, guess your saying he's a pretty smart guy. I was wondering why Joe didn't do that but now I know.
A biden win means only second time a us president is a roman catholic ever
 
I’m embarrassed by both and for all of us. What a shit show. Two nasty old men shouting “Get off my lawn!!” to each other.

Biden should be ashamed of usuing his dead children as political fodder! Ashamed!!!!
 
Biden should be ashamed of usuing his dead children as political fodder! Ashamed!!!!
thats what you took from that? when it was trump who started talking about bidens family?

replying off of spks comment that slams both candidates you felt the need to attack only one, biden? such a trump supporter move. yell "ashamed!" and somehow not mention the PRESIDENTS behavior. the guy who single handedly started that entire disaster, made it his goal, who went low with childish put downs about graduating class, family, "blood"...

you got nothing to say about that? no shame there?

very typical. and obnoxious. and defensive.
 
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Biden should be ashamed of usuing his dead children as political fodder! Ashamed!!!!
Wow. Just Wow. I have to agree with shUSA. That’s an incredibly shallow and gutter comment. Joe Biden has experienced so much tragedy in his life. Those tragedies allow him to be empathetic to those who have had a tough go at life. Have some dignity.
 
Trump went after his children unprovoked. I can't blame Biden for reacting. While there are legitimate questions to be asked about Hunter Biden, the way Trump went about it was incredibly distasteful.
 
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Trump went after his children unprovoked. I can't blame Biden for reacting. While there are legitimate questions to be asked about Hunter Biden, the way Trump went about it was incredibly distasteful.
Def distasteful but kinda silly that Biden brought up Beau.
 
It is all settled for the second debate.Steve Scully a close friend of Biden has been named the moderator.
Steve will ensure Trump is cutoff if Biden objects to an interruption and that seems to be their plan
to protect Joe as much as they can.Of all the moderators That could be selected what luck for Joe ,Scully
recently released a prior tweet expressing his love for Joe.Seems fair Joe so weak got to give him some help.
 
Trump was awful, but he's brought peace deals to middle East. The nuclear bomb line is so off.

Agree with your first sentence. For how many voters will this be a consideration next month? And Jimmy Carter brought human rights as an issue to Central America.
 
It is all settled for the second debate.Steve Scully a close friend of Biden has been named the moderator.
Steve will ensure Trump is cutoff if Biden objects to an interruption and that seems to be their plan
to protect Joe as much as they can.Of all the moderators That could be selected what luck for Joe ,Scully
recently released a prior tweet expressing his love for Joe.Seems fair Joe so weak got to give him some help.
Joe needs the help because he was bullied last time and got destroyed substantively by a first time pol.
 
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