2 Atlanta PD Officers done after this

[SHUHoopsFan]

Forgive me for me being just a dumb former cop, but I can’t understand your logic here.

@HALL85 said it better than me. The African American community has every right to feel profiled by cops. However the way to go about their protests just doesn't seem like it will accomplish anything because they are profiling cops. If you truly believe profiling is wrong, you wouldn't do it. However that seems to be a major part of the protest, cops are bad, which is untrue.

 

[HallBall10]

Then who do you call if you are being attacked? Or your house is being robbed? Or you are in an auto accident?

Color me curious.

Why is it so hard for people to realize that it’s ok to say there needs to be police reform?.. bc I think there needs to be improvement and “bad apples” need to be weeded out, I can’t also call call them if needed.

I mean can we help out the good cops. It’s either whistleblow with no repercussions to the crooked cop or have to watch your back

Case in point let partner murder someone on camera in the middle of the street rather than protect the community and it’s members. It’s sad, it was disgusting, it’s dehumanizing.

we should be able to all agree there needs to be serious police reform. Let’s help the good cops.

6 infractions.17 infractions... what other job would allow so many f*ck ups and still be employed?

 

[HallBall10]

Sorry, I know you lefties think cops are so bad, yet would be dialing them as soon as needed. These riots across the country have exposed a much large problem. There are many people who will never contribute to a productive society and are happy to become violent, which is a national security issue.

1. Do you think the cop in the video that I posted was protecting his community when he pulled the mask down of the guy who had his hands raised?
2. Do you think that warrants an infraction?
3. Would you be ok if that was your boy or someone you love that got pepper sprayed in the face while his hands were raised just like everyone else standing there?
4. Do you think good cops want to deal with this POS being on their team treating people like this?

 

[HallBall10]

It's likely the right charging call.

His actions caused the death. The big question is whether there was intent and if it can be proved.

The trouble is most people will not be able to separate their emotions.

The fact that he was speaking ("I can't breath") means he was breathing. The defense will use that to support lack of intent.

The defense will parse the Minneapolis PD's choke hold policy. It's on line and if you read it objectively, there is plenty room to interpret his actions as conforming to policy. It's a poorly written policy.

"The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)

1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
2. For life saving purposes, or;
3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective."

I am not saying I agree with the policy and certainly not defending the cop's actions.

IMO "in order to gain control "is too vague. The guy was handcuffed but because he was still "exhibiting active resistance" (the repeated falling down) the defense will say the cop believed he did not have control and therefore proceeded to gain control according to policy.

We can expect the trial will be closely watched.

Rationalizing this is insane. The part about him saying he can’t breathe is insane.

could you imagine choking out your wife for 9 minutes the last 2-3 minutes her body lay lifeless. People come to check her pulse and can’t find one and you continue to choke her out. You continue to choke her out as the Hurst (EMS) picks her lifeless body up and the defense uses the argument well I didn’t know she couldn’t breathe bc she was saying I can’t breathe and well if she really couldn’t breathe she wouldn’t be able to say I can’t breathe. Pre-schoolers know that if you restrict someone’s airway they can’t breathe and will die. This was no accident this was a murder.

why not murder 2? Not-premeditated but murder nonetheless. The other cops need charges as well. I think a strong case can be made for 3rd degree murder on behalf of at least the 2nd cop on his back restricting airway of George Floyd as he pleaded went limp, bystanders pleaded those checking his pulse noted,etc. Absolutely disgusting.

everyone here knows that if they held a woman down as her husband choked her out for 9 minutes 2-3 of which her body lay lifeless they would already be arrested. Cops have to be caught on camera committing a public lynching and still get a slap on the wrist. No justice.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Cops shot all across the country last night, 4 in St. Louis, 1 in Vegas in critical condition, nothing to see here, just good citizens protesting peacefully. It's time to bring the hammer down on these clowns.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Why is it so hard for people to realize that it’s ok to say there needs to be police reform?.. bc I think there needs to be improvement and “bad apples” need to be weeded out, I can’t also call call them if needed.

I mean can we help out the good cops. It’s either whistleblow with no repercussions to the crooked cop or have to watch your back

Case in point let partner murder someone on camera in the middle of the street rather than protect the community and it’s members. It’s sad, it was disgusting, it’s dehumanizing.

we should be able to all agree there needs to be serious police reform. Let’s help the good cops.

6 infractions.17 infractions... what other job would allow so many f*ck ups and still be employed?

Isn’t the easiest way to get reform to get more good guys on the inside? If these protesters are the good guys, how about signing up for the police force and be those whistle blowers. You always hear politicians saying run for local office if you want change. I would think more good people signing up to be police men and women would be the best solution to all of this. To my knowledge nobody has suggested that. The problem is there is more fight and resistance to cops than taking on the challenge of being a cop and making a difference.

 

[shu09]

Why is it so hard for people to realize that it’s ok to say there needs to be police reform?.. bc I think there needs to be improvement and “bad apples” need to be weeded out, I can’t also call call them if needed.

I mean can we help out the good cops. It’s either whistleblow with no repercussions to the crooked cop or have to watch your back

Case in point let partner murder someone on camera in the middle of the street rather than protect the community and it’s members. It’s sad, it was disgusting, it’s dehumanizing.

we should be able to all agree there needs to be serious police reform. Let’s help the good cops.

6 infractions.17 infractions... what other job would allow so many f*ck ups and still be employed?

Any police reform that may be necessary is a local issue. Every department and community has a different dynamic.

 

[HALL85]

Isn’t the easiest way to get reform to get more good guys on the inside? If these protesters are the good guys, how about signing up for the police force and be those whistle blowers. You always hear politicians saying run for local office if you want change. I would think more good people signing up to be police men and women would be the best solution to all of this. To my knowledge nobody has suggested that. The problem is there is more fight and resistance to cops than taking on the challenge of being a cop and making a difference.

Unfortunately, very little spoken about solutions and accountability. Why? Because it's easier to carry a cardboard sign, post a meme or load up on your social media, get all your "likes" and be able to say "Yeah, I did something".

Where is the accountability for leadership in Minneapolis? Back to the same question, which no one wants to answer. What have the mayor, police chief, council and police union been doing in Minneapolis for the last five years? Easier to demonize a race and profession because that sells ads.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Unfortunately, very little spoken about solutions and accountability. Why? Because it's easier to carry a cardboard sign, post a meme or load up on your social media, get all your "likes" and be able to say "Yeah, I did something".

Where is the accountability for leadership in Minneapolis? Back to the same question, which no one wants to answer. What have the mayor, police chief, council and police union been doing in Minneapolis for the last five years? Easier to demonize a race and profession because that sells ads.

Exactly, and all of these cities have been led by Democratic mayors. The issues start at the top, and are a direct reflection on the mayors. The Minneapolis mayor was terrible since the start of this.

When you coddle rioters and let them loot, you get anarchy. Anarchy leads to society downfall, nothing positive comes of this, yet they refuse to squash this shit immediately and then Mr. PRESIDENT is a bad guy for saying were going to do whatever it takes to end it.

 

[SPK145]

Why is it so hard for people to realize that it’s ok to say there needs to be police reform?.. bc I think there needs to be improvement and “bad apples” need to be weeded out, I can’t also call call them if needed.

I mean can we help out the good cops. It’s either whistleblow with no repercussions to the crooked cop or have to watch your back

Case in point let partner murder someone on camera in the middle of the street rather than protect the community and it’s members. It’s sad, it was disgusting, it’s dehumanizing.

we should be able to all agree there needs to be serious police reform. Let’s help the good cops.

6 infractions.17 infractions... what other job would allow so many f*ck ups and still be employed?

You're absolutely correct except you spent that whole diatribe answering a question that wasn't asked.

If you are going to come on here and say you don't trust the police like Pat did, who are you going to call? If that answer is the same police you don't trust, you are either just grandstanding here, are an incredible hypocrite, or both.

If I don't trust a certain plumber, auto mechanic, etc., I DON'T USE THEM!!!!

 

[NYShoreGuy]

Exactly, and all of these cities have been led by Democratic mayors. The issues start at the top, and are a direct reflection on the mayors. The Minneapolis mayor was terrible since the start of this.

When you coddle rioters and let them loot, you get anarchy. Anarchy leads to society downfall, nothing positive comes of this, yet they refuse to squash this shit immediately and then Mr. PRESIDENT is a bad guy for saying were going to do whatever it takes to end it.

Atlanta Mayor spoke out against everything the other night (first night of property damage at cnn center) and rightfully blasted trump, the mayor happens to be female black and a democrat...she also has a law degree and was a judge

 

[HALL85]

Atlanta Mayor spoke out against everything the other night (first night of property damage at cnn center) and rightfully blasted trump, the mayor happens to be female black and a democrat...she also has a law degree and was a judge

Great that she "spoke out", but being in a leadership position is more than doing a press conference. Your city, your police, you are in charge. What is the history of Atlanta PD? I don't know...do they have a culture of racism and profiling? What did they do to prevent and respond to the vandalism, destruction and physical attacks by looters? How did blasting Trump in her message help the situation?

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

If I was mayor or governor in one of these places I would announce any protesters out past x time will be considered armed and dangerous and all force necessary to stop them, including lethal, will be used if required starting tonight. I would not sit by while my police, national guard, etc, are assaulted and lives threatened so some lowlifes can steal a TV, pour gasoline on cops, or shoot at them. Enough is enough.

If you are a non violent protester you have all day to send your message, but you better be home by x time cause the shit show ends now.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Atlanta Mayor spoke out against everything the other night (first night of property damage at cnn center) and rightfully blasted trump, the mayor happens to be female black and a democrat...she also has a law degree and was a judge

Here's the problem. Everyone is tired of words. We're at a point where words mean crap, Trump included. We need actions. Speaking out against the bad cops isn't enough. Speaking out against violent protesters isn't enough. It's about actions. She can't do anything about what happened in Minneapolis, justice will have to be handled up there. However in Atlanta, she has a ton of violent protesters. Saying no-no is not an acceptable response. People are getting their businesses destroyed. If she stands up and says I said no-no, I'm sure that will make the business owners feel so much better.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

If I was mayor or governor in one of these places I would announce any protesters out past x time will be considered armed and dangerous and all force necessary to stop them, including lethal, will be used if required starting tonight. I would not sit by while my police, national guard, etc, are assaulted and lives threatened so some lowlifes can steal a TV, pour gasoline on cops, or shoot at them. Enough is enough.

If you are a non violent protester you have all day to send your message, but you better be home by x time cause the shit show ends now.

I'd suspend protesting at the first sign of violence. My first amendment right to go to Church was/is suspended. I don't see this as being any different.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

If I was mayor or governor in one of these places I would announce any protesters out past x time will be considered armed and dangerous and all force necessary to stop them, including lethal, will be used if required starting tonight. I would not sit by while my police, national guard, etc, are assaulted and lives threatened so some lowlifes can steal a TV, pour gasoline on cops, or shoot at them. Enough is enough.

If you are a non violent protester you have all day to send your message, but you better be home by x time cause the shit show ends now.

Kniespolice places have played curfews in recent days around the country...however police would be foolish to target non violent protesters more aggresively than they are currently...again you seem to lack the ability to differentiate between non violence protester and those overtaking the situation as looters and rioters those types doing nothing but bad scenes

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Kniespolice places have played curfews in recent days around the country...however police would be foolish to target non violent protesters more aggresively than they are currently...again you seem to lack the ability to differentiate between non violence protester and those overtaking the situation as looters and rioters those types doing nothing but bad scenes

NYshoreguy- I just said the non violent protesters can do their thing until X time. That is their forum to non violently send their message. After said time, you better get your ass home because looters will not be tolerated, and if yoire on the street past x time you are not complying with the order.

What is your solution to stop the looting and violence?

 

[SPK145]

I'd suspend protesting at the first sign of violence. My first amendment right to go to Church was/is suspended. I don't see this as being any different.

Yup, same as yelling "Fire!!" in a crowded theater.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Kniespolice places have played curfews in recent days around the country...however police would be foolish to target non violent protesters more aggresively than they are currently...again you seem to lack the ability to differentiate between non violence protester and those overtaking the situation as looters and rioters those types doing nothing but bad scenes

Differentiate violent vs non-violent protestors. That sounds like a good idea. Maybe we could've used that logic to differentiate people who were high risk vs low risk when it comes to coronavirus.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...es-why-departments-respond-with-force-anyway/

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

NYshoreguy- I just said the non violent protesters can do their thing until X time. That is their forum to non violently send their message. After said time, you better get your ass home because looters will not be tolerated, and if yoire on the street past x time you are not complying with the order.

What is your solution to stop the looting and violence?

NYShore I guess you don't have a solution, you just like to play armchair QB from the safety of your house.

 

[NYShoreGuy]

NYShore I guess you don't have a solution, you just like to play armchair QB from the safety of your house.

Here is my what i know is...i dont have military or law enforcement training...many people are very angry with the latest signifcant gaffe by a law enforcement member and his accomplices last Monday in Minnesota. I dont think tear gas and rubber bullets is right for non violent protesters. It is unfortunate that many blur the line of a message that is attempting to be produced that resort to violence and looting and infiltrate law abiding protesters. There are too many black market guns out on the streets of America, I don't want to see a mass killing field but I fear we are headed that way if things dont change for better in 48 hours.

 

[HALL85]

Here is my what i know is...i dont have military or law enforcement training...many people are very angry with the latest signifcant gaffe by a law enforcement member and his accomplices last Monday in Minnesota. I dont think tear gas and rubber bullets is right for non violent protesters. It is unfortunate that many blur the line of a message that is attempting to be produced that resort to violence and looting and infiltrate law abiding protesters. There are too many black market guns out on the streets of America, I don't want to see a mass killing field but I fear we are headed that way if things dont change for better in 48 hours.

So not to sound trite, but you haven't put forth any solutions on how to respond to the "systematic" police brutality nor do you want to weigh in on how best to manage peaceful protests, looters and those attacking the police and other citizens. Instead, you just want to sit there and post a bunch of twitter videos. Thanks for playing.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

There are too many black market guns out on the streets of America, I don't want to see a mass killing field but I fear we are headed that way if things dont change for better in 48 hours.

Shouldn't they shut down the right to protest to prevent that?

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Shouldn't they shut down the right to protest to prevent that?

Protesters have all the rights, god forbid you want to go to Church. It's actually amazing the country isn't fully opened now since the protests and rioting have obviously not involved social distancing LOL

 

[HALL85]

Protesters have all the rights, god forbid you want to go to Church. It's actually amazing the country isn't fully opened now since the protests and rioting have obviously not involved social distancing LOL

Even worse if you own a gym in NJ....

 

[NYShoreGuy]

So not to sound trite, but you haven't put forth any solutions on how to respond to the "systematic" police brutality nor do you want to weigh in on how best to manage peaceful protests, looters and those attacking the police and other citizens. Instead, you just want to sit there and post a bunch of twitter videos. Thanks for playing.

Hall85 say a closet anti semite wants to be a cop so he can give jews a hard time...how does that get vetted in advance? I dont think any acute police training is going to be able to make any person who takes an oath as an officer relearn their biases and beliefs that they grew up with. There are evil people in all walks of life. Obviously the siutations and escalations are beyond awful and we should be better as a society. However when any sect of people are treated as outcasts to society over hours, days, weeks, seasons, years, decades, centuries and time what do you expect the macro reaction to be?

 

[HALL85]

Hall85 say a closet anti semite wants to be a cop so he can give jews a hard time...how does that get vetted in advance? I dont think any acute police training is going to be able to make any person who takes an oath as an officer relearn their biases and beliefs that they grew up with. There are evil people in all walks of life. Obviously the siutations and escalations are beyond awful and we should be better as a society. However when any sect of people are treated as outcasts to society over hours, days, weeks, seasons, years, decades, centuries and time what do you expect the macro reaction to be?

So what's your solution??

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Hall85 say a closet anti semite wants to be a cop so he can give jews a hard time...how does that get vetted in advance? I dont think any acute police training is going to be able to make any person who takes an oath as an officer relearn their biases and beliefs that they grew up with. There are evil people in all walks of life. Obviously the siutations and escalations are beyond awful and we should be better as a society. However when any sect of people are treated as outcasts to society over hours, days, weeks, seasons, years, decades, centuries and time what do you expect the macro reaction to be?

It's never going to get vetted in advance. Your example could work from this angle, what happens to a guy who didn't start the force as anti semetic but has bad interactions with a bunch of Jewish people and becomes anti semetic? What you do is get enough good people on the force that hold each other accountable. Instead of protesting these people who really want change should be going down to their local stations and signing up to be police men and women. For some it they may not want to give up their current job because it would be a cut in pay. For others that excuse doesn't fly. Get in the trenches with the officers risking their lives on a daily basis and create that change.

 

[Blue Bloods]

Then who do you call if you are being attacked? Or your house is being robbed? Or you are in an auto accident?

Color me curious.

Color me curious too.

 

[anon_ezos2e9wn1ob0]

Color me curious too.

They call the police as soon as THEY need them.

 

[Pirata]

Rationalizing this is insane. The part about him saying he can’t breathe is insane.

could you imagine choking out your wife for 9 minutes the last 2-3 minutes her body lay lifeless. People come to check her pulse and can’t find one and you continue to choke her out.

If you read my post I don't see how you can say I was rationalizing anything.

I am not defending the guy or his actions, just objectively looking at the charging call.

Looking at the criteria for Murder 1 and 2, you need to prove intent. Operative word is "Prove", not just saying he intended and adding "come'on man".

Regarding the 9 minutes minus the 2-3 you cited, are you saying he was able to hold his breath for 6-7 minutes?

It is a nasty little fact that if you can speak, you can breath.

I also pointed out the written policy of the PD regarding choke holds was vague. I was being polite. To quote your words, it is insane. Check out the section on "Unconscious Next Restraint"

You should read it. As I said you can bet the defense attorneys will bring it to court. you can bet the defense will alos bring up how many hours of training include choke holds.

Perhaps the Police Commissioner should be charged for allowing the policy to exist.


From: https://tinyurl.com/ycuyb9fz

5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

DEFINITIONS I.

Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

1. The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
2. The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
   1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
   2. For life saving purposes, or;
   3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
3. Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)
4. After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)
   1. After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
   2. An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.

 

[Pirata]

They call the police as soon as THEY need them.

My dad was an NYPD homicide detective.

Growing up, he often said, "everyone hates the cops...until they need one".

RIP dad.

 

[HallBall10]

If you read my post I don't see how you can say I was rationalizing anything.

I am not defending the guy or his actions, just objectively looking at the charging call.

Looking at the criteria for Murder 1 and 2, you need to prove intent. Operative word is "Prove", not just saying he intended and adding "come'on man".

Regarding the 9 minutes minus the 2-3 you cited, are you saying he was able to hold his breath for 6-7 minutes?

It is a nasty little fact that if you can speak, you can breath.

I also pointed out the written policy of the PD regarding choke holds was vague. I was being polite. To quote your words, it is insane. Check out the section on "Unconscious Next Restraint"

You should read it. As I said you can bet the defense attorneys will bring it to court. you can bet the defense will alos bring up how many hours of training include choke holds.

Perhaps the Police Commissioner should be charged for allowing the policy to exist.


From: https://tinyurl.com/ycuyb9fz

5-311 USE OF NECK RESTRAINTS AND CHOKE HOLDS (10/16/02) (08/17/07) (10/01/10) (04/16/12)

DEFINITIONS I.

Choke Hold: Deadly force option. Defined as applying direct pressure on a person’s trachea or airway (front of the neck), blocking or obstructing the airway (04/16/12)

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

Conscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with intent to control, and not to render the subject unconscious, by only applying light to moderate pressure. (04/16/12)

Unconscious Neck Restraint: The subject is placed in a neck restraint with the intention of rendering the person unconscious by applying adequate pressure. (04/16/12)

PROCEDURES/REGULATIONS II.

1. The Conscious Neck Restraint may be used against a subject who is actively resisting. (04/16/12)
2. The Unconscious Neck Restraint shall only be applied in the following circumstances: (04/16/12)
   1. On a subject who is exhibiting active aggression, or;
   2. For life saving purposes, or;
   3. On a subject who is exhibiting active resistance in order to gain control of the subject; and if lesser attempts at control have been or would likely be ineffective.
3. Neck restraints shall not be used against subjects who are passively resisting as defined by policy. (04/16/12)
4. After Care Guidelines (04/16/12)
   1. After a neck restraint or choke hold has been used on a subject, sworn MPD employees shall keep them under close observation until they are released to medical or other law enforcement personnel.
   2. An officer who has used a neck restraint or choke hold shall inform individuals accepting custody of the subject, that the technique was used on the subject.

Appears I was right. Charges just upgraded.

 

[HallBall10]

They call the police as soon as THEY need them.

Public servant. Do your damn job. And while your doing it don’t be a thug.

that is the simple request.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Public servant. Do your damn job. And while your doing it don’t be a thug.

that is the simple request.

Such a naive statement. 99% of them do their job just like that. Can you imagine taking any group of people, and grouping them by their bottom 1%? Whites? Hispanics? Blacks? Lawyers? Accountants? Financial Advisors? Garbage men? Painters? etc. Which other group do you base your opinion on the bottom 1%?

We have about 1,000 people in Washington who are public servants who act like thugs on a daily basis. We have a congressional slush fund for sexual assaults? Why don't we riot over that thuggish behavior?

What the cop did in Minneapolis did was out of line, but don't stereotype cops. Ultimately it's going to result in people not wanting to become cops. Gangs are going to form. I have little doubts you will see the return of the mafia if people can't rely on cops. There will be someone who breaks into the wrong store and people will be waiting to shoot those people who are about to destroy that business.

 

[HallBall10]

Such a naive statement. 99% of them do their job just like that. Can you imagine taking any group of people, and grouping them by their bottom 1%? Whites? Hispanics? Blacks? Lawyers? Accountants? Financial Advisors? Garbage men? Painters? etc. Which other group do you base your opinion on the bottom 1%?

We have about 1,000 people in Washington who are public servants who act like thugs on a daily basis. We have a congressional slush fund for sexual assaults? Why don't we riot over that thuggish behavior?

What the cop did in Minneapolis did was out of line, but don't stereotype cops. Ultimately it's going to result in people not wanting to become cops. Gangs are going to form. I have little doubts you will see the return of the mafia if people can't rely on cops. There will be someone who breaks into the wrong store and people will be waiting to shoot those people who are about to destroy that business

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If you can’t expect accountability from your tax dollars while also expecting those services to be done then what type of country are we living in. To make the point, as knies and others made, that protestors shouldn’t expect these services is cooky. Of course every single person should be encouraged to call the police.

If you can’t understand why their is a difference bad1% of painters and bad 1% of cops then I’d ask you to watch the video of George Floyd again. He used his job and power and badge to murder and the other 3 thugs used their badge to help in that murder.

I appreciate cops just like I do teachers and garbage men.

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

If you can’t expect accountability from your tax dollars while also expecting those services to be done then what type of country are we living in. To make the point, as knies and others made, that protestors shouldn’t expect these services is cooky.

If you can’t understand why their is a difference bad1% of painters and bad 1% of cops then I’d ask you to watch the video of George Floyd again. He used his job and power and badge to murder and the other 3 thugs used their badge to help in that murder.

I appreciate cops just like I do teachers and garbage men.

Are you truly suggesting a painter never killed a man? There are bad dudes in all professions. You don't need a video to know that.

 

[HallBall10]

Are you truly suggesting a painter never killed a man? There are bad dudes in all professions. You don't need a video to know that.

Dis they use their painters badge on the job to murder? Did they have their hand in their pocket with a cocky ass smirk on their face bc they thought their paint brush would get him to avoid jail time?

 

[SHUHoopsFan]

Dis they use their painters badge on the job to murder? Did they have their hand in their pocket with a cocky ass smirk on their face bc they thought their paint brush would get him to avoid jail time?

Got ya. My bad. I'm sure when you explain that to those victims family's they'll feel better.