Defense and fight was there, but the offense looked like 11 new guys.
Good God that was tedious to watch. U-G-L-Y. But a win is a win!
Good God that was tedious to watch. U-G-L-Y. But a win is a win!
50+ Fouls, Nearly 40 Turnovers
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I think the frustrating part is NIL. We’re paying how much more than they are and we win by 4 on our home court. Only saving grace is it’s happening all over the conference. Don’t know if it’s parity or other than the top 4 teams it’s pure mediocrity in the big east.
It’s because nobody actually knows how to play basketball anymore. Today’s players know how to carry, travel and dunk for highlights or hoist 3’s.
So with all the nonsense transferring going on you have 10 guys running around like chickens unless you got a real superstar.
It’s why the international players have officially taken over the NBA. There’s no looking back.
Game took 2 1/2 hours to be played. That’s insane
Jets vs Cardinals. December 2, 2012. Mark Sanchez/Greg McElroy vs Ryan Lindley. Jets won 7-6. Jets turned the ball over 4 times. Sanchez threw 3 interceptions. Cardinals had 5 first downs the entire game. Worst game I’ve ever attended. Tonight may have been #2.
It was simply a terrible basketball game to watch but a good teaching opportunity. Way too jittery on offense but look it’s the first game with 11 new players and I think not having Coleman was a big deal.
My concern is we scored 53 vs Maryland and 57 vs SPU. Unless we’re going to play a Tony Bennett style game, we’re not beating anyone in the 50s. With that said we might need to play that style. We might need to embrace low number of possession rock fights.
Right now given the state of our program any win is a plus. What I’ll be looking for over the next 5 or 6 games is whether we’re showing progress and becoming a more competitive team and significantly cutting down on our miscues. If we don’t show that progress it could be a very long season for the SH fan base.
Too many guys afraid to let it fly. I’m also chalking it up to new environment and first game playing together. For me, the major cause of concern was rebounding. We’ve been solid on the boards for a few years now. We got outworked last night big time.
I was at a 9-5 Jets loss (in the rain) sometime in the 80's, as a kid. Nothing has reached that level since.
Trust in Sha. Thankful we avoided a bad loss. Not sure if we can improve quickly enough to avoid at least one bad loss in the pre-season, and the game at the rac is only 5 weeks away!
I know we were short handed against Maryland and again last night but right now it’s so chaotic I can’t tell what is going ok offensively or who could be a player on that end.
Defensively we are versatile and switch well. Looked good given we have lots of length and athleticism.
I remember the first game against Niagara several years ago had something like 70 fouls. They were implementing the hand check rule.
It was good to be back at the Rock, regrouping with our Section, which seems to still be intact.
Go beat Fordham!
It was good to be back at the Rock, regrouping with our Section, which seems to still be intact.
Go beat Fordham!
Things going against Sha ...
The team is young
The team is unproven
The the team is new to the system.
Many players that were good transfers had a bad first year and we are expected for a large group of them to gel right off the bat with no foundational players to lean on?
This is a tall task and people need to be patient.
Even if the entire year becomes a disappointment I can see this team coming back strong next year. Give the team a chance to gel, let Sha do what Sha does.
The team is young
The team is unproven
The the team is new to the system.
Many players that were good transfers had a bad first year and we are expected for a large group of them to gel right off the bat with no foundational players to lean on?
This is a tall task and people need to be patient.
Even if the entire year becomes a disappointment I can see this team coming back strong next year. Give the team a chance to gel, let Sha do what Sha does.
I know it's early but from what I saw last night we do not have many guys that can score on their own. Also, Wusu can not be our primary ball handler but it looks like that is the plan.
Defensively, we are head & shoulders better than this time last year. Having a shot blocker would really help.
Defensively, we are head & shoulders better than this time last year. Having a shot blocker would really help.
Definitely. The ball movement is going to be paramount but even that was very sloppy bc it looked like guys playing together for the first time. That should get much better. Hard to get worse. 🤣
Agree 100% we need to be patient. It's only one game but I thought we didn't look like a solid team dribbling the ball or passing the ball. No doubts Sha will get these guys going in the right direction. Question will be can Sha produce results in a month, 3 months or 12 months? It's not like Richmond, Dawes and Davis were overnight sensations. They were struggling early in their 2nd year. The sad reality of your last line is in this new world do we keep the guys we need to keep for next year.
Denver- Jets a few weeks ago in the rain at Met Life was my absolute worst.
Good point…even with three holdover starters it took awhile for the team to come together last year. Just want to see improvement.
We would hope that going into next year Sha can retain a core of 4-5 guys from this roster that elevate their games. There is going to be roster turnover but you need some continuity which he has very little this season.
As a point of clarification, the foul totals include the four technical fouls so there were only 49 common fouls assessed (big difference, I know).
We saw two teams built to play the same way. I'd be surprised if between Sha and Bashir Mason they've spent more than five minutes total installing their respective offenses. We, especially, look like a team content to dribble for 28 seconds but without anybody to bail us out at the end of the shot clock.
That said this probably doesn't make my top five worst games. The 1995 NIT Final between Virginia Tech and Marquette has long held the top spot on my list. This was a game so bad, it needed to go to overtime.
I was also at the DePaul game at the Rosemont Horizon/Allstate Arena in December 2002 over Christmas weekend. This was a 54-43 loss that was 43-32 at the last media time out. One of those painful, grind-it-out games that Louis Orr loved.
We saw two teams built to play the same way. I'd be surprised if between Sha and Bashir Mason they've spent more than five minutes total installing their respective offenses. We, especially, look like a team content to dribble for 28 seconds but without anybody to bail us out at the end of the shot clock.
That said this probably doesn't make my top five worst games. The 1995 NIT Final between Virginia Tech and Marquette has long held the top spot on my list. This was a game so bad, it needed to go to overtime.
I was also at the DePaul game at the Rosemont Horizon/Allstate Arena in December 2002 over Christmas weekend. This was a 54-43 loss that was 43-32 at the last media time out. One of those painful, grind-it-out games that Louis Orr loved.
We had very little interior presence. Erheriene, Yalden, and Toumi combined for only 9 rebounds in 46 minutes... And 10 fouls. I thought Godwill showed a bit, but I mean you're relying on two freshmen and a guy that played point forward at a mid-major. Aligbe has potential in there despite being undersized. Middleton idk.
Okorafor needs to be recover and be a legit post player or it's going to be an issue all season. We're going to get killed against legit BE frontcourts, have to win in other ways.
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