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Kadary over Zuby and ashworth over Peavy for me.

Lots over very old players on there.
What you said.

Kadary got 2nd team only because it is difficult if not impossible to get 3 kids on the first team. I think it is a flip of the coin between him and Zuby.

Ashworth probably dealt with the same thing given Kalk's presence on the first team.

Overall though I think the 1st and 2nd teams are pretty well done and what was expected, and even the 3rd team.

No real surprises on the freshman team as the two kids you expected to be the slam dunks were the unanimous picks.
 
Eleven of the 16 players on the three teams are seniors or grad students. Two others are freshmen pros. That doesn’t leave much room for a sophomore like Coleman. He has slipped the last few weeks no doubt but I would not write off Coleman. Put some pieces around him and he will be productive. He was on the BE honor role for several consecutive weeks. Hope he is back but it looks highly unlikely.
 
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After yesterday's game, I wondered if McNealy was a top half of first round pick. I realize good college players (Powell, Angel) are not [to be] good pros, but for a guy who came into the season as one-and-done, third team Big East must raise questions. Wonder, too, if Karaban goes late in the second round, or if Ball stays another year.
 
McNeeley was hurt a lot of the BE season. Probably would have been first team if not for the injuries. I don’t see him as a top half of the first round guy though. Mid to late first for me.
 
After that really outstanding start, Coleman had an awful end. Also following the game he missed (and hair change, critical key).

Overall he was 2nd in the league in usage and 2nd in shot %. Was top-20 in rebounding percentages, but didn't do anything well enough to merit recognition as we purely a volume guy on a team that had no offense.

He had an offensive rating of just 93 (woof) and shot just .407 from 2PT (85/209), and .267 from 3 (24/90). 1 double-double.
 
After that really outstanding start, Coleman had an awful end. Also following the game he missed (and hair change, critical key).

Overall he was 2nd in the league in usage and 2nd in shot %. Was top-20 in rebounding percentages, but didn't do anything well enough to merit recognition as we purely a volume guy on a team that had no offense.

He had an offensive rating of just 93 (woof) and shot just .407 from 2PT (85/209), and .267 from 3 (24/90). 1 double-double.
Yes. He was completely different player after missing the game to injury. He was playing at a All-BE level. Whether you think he was effected by the injury, or he got worn down, he got more attention from defenses, felt pressure of the agent/portal, etc, etc.

First 8 BE games
20.6 points - 6.3 rebs - 1.9 steals - 1.8 TOs - 41.5 fg% - 32.4 3fg% - 83.9 ft%

Final 11 BE games
14.4 points - 5.6 rebs - 1.4 steals - 3.1 TOs - 33.0 fg% - 23.2 3fg% -56.5 ft%
 
McNeeley was hurt a lot of the BE season. Probably would have been first team if not for the injuries. I don’t see him as a top half of the first round guy though. Mid to late first for me.
Given his age, size, and shooting ability, I'd be shocked if he doesn't end up in the lottery. Granted I haven't studied this year's draft. The "age" factor though plays a big role in the modeling of how NBA teams draft and the projections.
 
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Given his age, size, and shooting ability, I'd be shocked if he doesn't end up in the lottery. Granted I haven't studied this year's draft. The "age" factor though plays a big role in the modeling of how NBA teams draft and the projections.
There are a ton of 18 and 19 year old lottery candidates this year. Flagg, Harper, Ace, KJ, Philon, Maluach, Traore, Saraf, Demin, Sorber and Riley are all younger than McNeely. VJ, Asa, Knueppel, and Jase are basically the same age. He’s not that young for this year’s draft.
 
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7 seniors or graduate seniors on the first two teams…

Very surprised Kadary was second team.
Maybe selectors didn't want to pick three from one team.
Similar to women's first team. Would our two selections be among UCONN's first eight? Not even a serious question.
 
7 seniors or graduate seniors on the first two teams…

Very surprised Kadary was second team.
A lot of talent leaving the BE this year. All of College basketball.

Shaping up to be a crazy year in the Portal with far fewer established pĺlayers available and a lot of teams with major holes to fill due to the double "graduation" class. This many players exhausting eligibility at the same time is unprecedented.

Going to be difficult to rebuild SH even with a higher payroll. Sha the GM is going to have to "hit" on a lot of players in a challenging market.
 
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What you said.

Kadary got 2nd team only because it is difficult if not impossible to get 3 kids on the first team. I think it is a flip of the coin between him and Zuby.

Ashworth probably dealt with the same thing given Kalk's presence on the first team.

Overall though I think the 1st and 2nd teams are pretty well done and what was expected, and even the 3rd team.

No real surprises on the freshman team as the two kids you expected to be the slam dunks were the unanimous picks.

Maybe selectors didn't want to pick three from one team.
Similar to women's first team. Would our two selections be among UCONN's first eight? Not even a serious question.
Add in the presumption that Pitino receives Coach of the Year. Are you really giving COY to the guy who had three first-team All-Big East players?

Someone had to be left off and it was the player with (relatively speaking) the most pedestrian stats. Ironically, you could probably argue he should be BE Player of the Year.
 
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Add in the presumption that Pitino receives Coach of the Year. Are you really giving COY to the guy who had three first-team All-Big East players?

Someone had to be left off and it was the player with (relatively speaking) the most pedestrian stats. Ironically, you could probably argue he should be BE Player of the Year.
Agreed. I'm not sure how much of the COY fits into it given their preseason projection (5th in the league) and the historic nature of their season (18 conference wins, etc). I think you are spot on that "someone had to be left off" so go with the guy with a bit lower "counting stats" even if he frankly is a reason the other 2 are on the first team.

Last year Creighton had Baylor S. on the 1st team and Kalk/Alexander on the 2nd team. Both were potential worthy 1st team selections, but there are so many good players, I think coaches tend to spread this stuff out.

Likewise, Hurley won COY in his historic season (also 18 league wins, I think), and had 2 first teamers (Newton/Spencer). Some probably thought Clingan was the best player on that team, but he made all league honorable mention (which would have been 3rd team this year, I think, because I don't think we had that last year). And Castle was left off entirely, though he was the unanimous freshman of the year and I don't think Karaban got anything.

So, I think when choosing among 8 or so qualified players, the voters for this stuff tend to be diplomatic in spreading around the wealth so to speak.
 
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