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Kids are just not taking this issue seriously.

I ride my bike every morning in a county park near my home. There is a huge electric sign by the entrance that says face coverings mandatory.

There are hundreds, sometimes over a thousand people in the park at any given time. Maybe 10% at most of the student aged kids wear masks whereas over 90% of the older people do.

Cops used to enforce the mask wearing but no longer do.
 
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-b...n-basketball-team-quarantined-due-coronavirus

Entire Grand Canyon men's basketball team quarantined due to coronavirus

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Grand Canyon's entire men's basketball team has been placed in quarantine after four players and two support staff members tested positive for the coronavirus.

All 14 players and two student managers are in quarantine at a designated on-campus residence hall for the next two weeks.

Players began reporting for voluntary individual workouts last week and were quarantined for 72 hours pending results of coronavirus tests and physicals. Four players who were asymptomatic tested positive at the end of the 72 hours and remained in quarantine while contact tracing was conducted.

Players who tested negative also remained in quarantine as a precaution and will be tested again. The two support staffers who tested positive will remain at home for two weeks.
 
Grand canyon may win the national title when their team is ready to play in October and the rest of college basketball teams are quivering at home forfeiting the season . Go Lopes
 
Gotta stop treating this as a death warrant and adapt to living with it. Sports teams having cases is to be expected, but not a major threat to them.
You make it like its a notch in the belt like getting an STD
 
Gotta stop treating this as a death warrant and adapt to living with it. Sports teams having cases is to be expected, but not a major threat to them.
That is easy to say. However, many folks forget that once a health compromised older adult gets this disease it is nearly always a death warrant. The more that we follow the precautions the less disease is circulating among all of us. And the safer our older loved ones will be.
 
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That is easy to say. However, many folks forget that once a health compromised older adult gets this disease it is nearly always a death warrant. The more that we follow the precautions the less disease is circulating among all of us. And the safer our older loved ones will be.

That's just not true based on the facts. Yes, that person would be much more at risk, but is still not all that likely to die.
 
I would think you would want as much sun and salt going into your system as a puriphier. That's just old school thinking.
You realize that you have no idea what you’re talking about, right? Getting on/off the beach thru narrow entrance ways? Standing shoulder to shoulder to get a Playa Bowl? Crammed onto D’Jais porch to get a beer? No thanks but be my guest.

Besides my overriding concern about the health of myself and my family, I hope that there is a SHU hoops season this year. More people taking common sense precautions could go a long way toward ensuring that we do indeed have a season.
 
You realize that you have no idea what you’re talking about, right? Getting on/off the beach thru narrow entrance ways? Standing shoulder to shoulder to get a Playa Bowl? Crammed onto D’Jais porch to get a beer? No thanks but be my guest.

Besides my overriding concern about the health of myself and my family, I hope that there is a SHU hoops season this year. More people taking common sense precautions could go a long way toward ensuring that we do indeed have a season.
You realize nobody has a clue of what they're talking about. Americans listened to their politicians like Cuomo and died because of it.
 
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You realize nobody has a clue of what they're talking about. Americans listened to their politicians like Cuomo and died because of it.
Or you could listen to politicians in Texas, Arizona and South Carolina and die because of it.

There are a lot things we don't know about Covid but a few things we do know is to wear a darn mask and social distance.
 
What is really sad is it is about 6 months into this, and they don't seem to have a clue about the disease. Every day a new contradicting piece of data seems to come in. That is the part that has me scared. We are the greatest country in the world and all we do is fight amongst ourselves, while this virus is winning.
Or you could listen to politicians in Texas, Arizona and South Carolina and die because of it.

There are a lot things we don't know about Covid but a few things we do know is to wear a darn mask and social distance.
 
There are a lot things we don't know about Covid but a few things we do know is to wear a darn mask and social distance.

That's what we think we know. People wearing masks 8 hours per day at work could be dangerous. Preexisting conditions and excessive cardon dioxide might be something we learn to be bad too late. Covid is bad but it's made much worse by preexisting conditions. If you haven't noticed there's a ton fo preexisting conditions in the US

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/masks-dangerous-health/

I'm not saying wearing a mask is right or wrong all I'm saying is as of right now what we think we know.....we really don't. And general statements of wear a damn mask are not good. For you it might be. For someone else it could be terrible.
 
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Remember when people were encouraged not to wear masks? It wasn't that long ago. What changed?
 
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Remember when people were encouraged not to wear masks? It wasn't that long ago. What changed?
Was just about to post the same thing. A noted virologist I mentioned here last week said that “The more I learn about this disease; the less I know”. That didn’t sit well ...lol, but this virus will show that a lot of bad decisions were made by politicians, leaders and people in critical positions (I.e. Adminstrator of the VA home In MA), that ended up killing a lot of people unnecessarily.
 
Was just about to post the same thing. A noted virologist I mentioned here last week said that “The more I learn about this disease; the less I know”. That didn’t sit well ...lol, but this virus will show that a lot of bad decisions were made by politicians, leaders and people in critical positions (I.e. Adminstrator of the VA home In MA), that ended up killing a lot of people unnecessarily.
That dope should talk to the people here. They know.
 
Was just about to post the same thing. A noted virologist I mentioned here last week said that “The more I learn about this disease; the less I know”. That didn’t sit well ...lol, but this virus will show that a lot of bad decisions were made by politicians, leaders and people in critical positions (I.e. Adminstrator of the VA home In MA), that ended up killing a lot of people unnecessarily.
We agree a lot of bad decisions were made all around. But after four plus months of this disease the consensus of health experts is that wearing a mask will help prevent the spread. Take it for what you think its worth.
 
That's just not true based on the facts. Yes, that person would be much more at risk, but is still not all that likely to die.
The incidence of death from Covid is far higher among older individuals and those with comorbidity ( like diabetes, respiratory/ heart conditions, and kidney disease) than normal healthy ones. That is why so many folks died in nursing homes in New York. It is also why the country of Italy, which has a senior aged population of 47%, saw the worst death rate in the world. Check your facts! The cdc.gov web site and https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/30/what-explains-coronavirus-lethality-for-elderly/ explain what you need to know.
 
Kids are just not taking this issue seriously.

I ride my bike every morning in a county park near my home. There is a huge electric sign by the entrance that says face coverings mandatory.

There are hundreds, sometimes over a thousand people in the park at any given time. Maybe 10% at most of the student aged kids wear masks whereas over 90% of the older people do.

Cops used to enforce the mask wearing but no longer do.

Having protocols that are a key part of controlling this virus is of little value if there in no enforcement of the rules , like wearing a face mask or maintaining social distancing, for those who don’t adhere to the rules. The result is just as you reported , as more and more people don’t wear face masks those who normally would start following the majority and stop wearing the mask.
 
What we know:
The only sure prevention is to stay home and away from other people who come in from outside.
After that, mask wearing is the best defense by far. Social distancing and being outside provide further defense.
After that, big risk
Sorry to say that without a therapy soon, we probably wont have a season.
A proven Vaccine by Xmas could give us something. But without it I don't see guys spritzing on each other..
Hoping for a miracle for all of us.
 
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That is THE Worst part of all of this. Fauci lied to us because we as a country were not prepared and because we have outsourced all manufacturing overseas we could not fix fast enough our shortfall of masks.

They saw what we as Americans did to toilet paper and they told him to go out and lie that masks were not important.

Makes you question anything they tell you from here on out.


Remember when people were encouraged not to wear masks? It wasn't that long ago. What changed?
 
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That is THE Worst part of all of this. Fauci lied to us because we as a country were not prepared and because we have outsourced all manufacturing overseas we could not fix fast enough our shortfall of masks.

They saw what we as Americans did to toilet paper and they told him to go out and lie that masks were not important.

Makes you question anything they tell you from here on out.

I don't trust anything Phil Murphy, Donald Trump, Andrew Cuomo or any other politician says. They have their own separate motives in everything they do. Even Dr. Fauci has been very suspect in his public statements. All over the place.
 
You realize nobody has a clue of what they're talking about. Americans listened to their politicians like Cuomo and died because of it.
Huh? President called it a hoax - and cost us months and lives. Didn’t wear a mask at Mayo Clinic and continues to dismiss the reality of the flu that is not done with us.
 
Try being at the shore. Perhaps .01% of people of all ages wearing a mask.
I am at the shore as well. While most people are not wearing masks, they are absolutely practicing social distancing. I wear a mask whenever I cannot effectively social distance, or go in an environment where there is poor ventilation (i.e. supermarket), but I do not wear a mask if I am on the beach or walking on the street at a safe distance from others. I always have my mask in my pocket in the event conditions change and I cannot effectively social distance.
 
We agree a lot of bad decisions were made all around. But after four plus months of this disease the consensus of health experts is that wearing a mask will help prevent the spread. Take it for what you think its worth.
Yes, but the point was, initially those same health experts were telling us that that only health care workers should wear masks.
 
We agree a lot of bad decisions were made all around. But after four plus months of this disease the consensus of health experts is that wearing a mask will help prevent the spread. Take it for what you think its worth.
The logic of what you say here is objectively clear and inescapable. Why anyone would reject documented medical consensus about masks in favor of their own political opinion is beyond understanding. That's the same mentality as the movement against vaccinations. Illogical and imho irresponsible.
 
The logic of what you say here is objectively clear and inescapable. Why anyone would reject documented medical consensus about masks in favor of their own political opinion is beyond understanding. That's the same mentality as the movement against vaccinations. Illogical and imho irresponsible.

Where is the documented evidence? Is it the same evidence that said don't wear masks in March and April? Just curious.
 
Remember when people were encouraged not to wear masks? It wasn't that long ago. What changed?
I thought it was clear from the start and Fauci just admitted the reason. There was a lack of PPE for health care workers and if the government came out suggesting masks, there would be even less for Doctors and nurses. I can attest to the shortage since my gf is a nurse at Hackensack. They did not have the proper Masks and she got Covid and gave it to me in early April.

I’m glad I had it after a bad two weeks of being sick. We have immunity but we do not know for how long. Wearing of masks helps lower the transmission of CoVid period. For the life of me, I don’t understand the big deal of wearing a mask around others indoors. The shore is Trump country and it is a political statement as theY genuflect before the alter of the Donald not to wear a mask. For the life of me, I don’t understand why people do not social distance. The south is seeing the defect of not social distancing. Infections are spiking which means hospitalizations and deaths will spike soon as well.
 
I thought it was clear from the start and Fauci just admitted the reason. There was a lack of PPE for health care workers and if the government came out suggesting masks, there would be even less for Doctors and nurses. I can attest to the shortage since my gf is a nurse at Hackensack. They did not have the proper Masks and she got Covid and gave it to me in early April.

I’m glad I had it after a bad two weeks of being sick. We have immunity but we do not know for how long. Wearing of masks helps lower the transmission of CoVid period. For the life of me, I don’t understand the big deal of wearing a mask around others indoors. The shore is Trump country and it is a political statement as theY genuflect before the alter of the Donald not to wear a mask. For the life of me, I don’t understand why people do not social distance. The south is seeing the defect of not social distancing. Infections are spiking which means hospitalizations and deaths will spike soon as well.

So sad how people politicize this at every turn, as you just did.
 
I thought it was clear from the start and Fauci just admitted the reason. There was a lack of PPE for health care workers and if the government came out suggesting masks, there would be even less for Doctors and nurses. I can attest to the shortage since my gf is a nurse at Hackensack. They did not have the proper Masks and she got Covid and gave it to me in early April.
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Not really. While there was a shortage of PPE in some areas, it really had very little if anything to do with public demand. 99% of the N95 inventory is in the healthcare supply chain (manufacturers, med/surg distributors, hospitals) that the public never had access. Hospital shortages had more to do with poor supply chain leadership and planning. Some hospitals started to panic and had all of their employees wear masks, scrubs and deployed policies n changing gowns, etc. that were over the top. The better run systems never had an issue with PPE.

Also, if they were so worried about PPE, Why wouldn’t you tell the population to just wear home maid cloth masks to slow the transmission?

This really has very little to do with Trump. There was a mass protest in California yesterday about wearing masks that was definitely not a Trump crowd. Not a lot of mask wearing in the protests or riots either. More age related in my view.
 
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The logic of what you say here is objectively clear and inescapable. Why anyone would reject documented medical consensus about masks in favor of their own political opinion is beyond understanding. That's the same mentality as the movement against vaccinations. Illogical and imho irresponsible.
There's something screwy about the whole thing. I personally can't put my finger on it. I wear a mask when I go out, but I don't usually have it over my nose because the damn virus can just likely go in my eyes or ears as much as in my nose. I don't get why people not wearing goggles and earplugs think it's crazy I don't cover my nose with the mask.

The other thing that gets me the lack of talk of natural antivirals. The day after the big east tournament was canceled I went to a client's house whose wife is a nurse. She started telling me about antivirals. It went in one ear out the other. My next appointment was at a friends house and his wife is from South America and she told me about the same antivirals and told me I need to start taking them because this virus could be really dangerous. A week later I was at another client who is a health nut and he told me the same thing. Why not promote these? Doesn't help big pharma? Do these people really have our best interest in mind? A lot of questions. I just don't want to accept what they say.
 
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